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mx2 Jan 27, 2013 11:27 pm

Earn miles through someone with the same name
 
My friend is named "John Edward Smith" and his brother is "John Matthew Smith". On his frequent flyer accounts he uses "John Smith". He has previously had his brother fly under the name "John Smith" and use his frequent flyer #, and miles were earned without problems. He realizes that this is ethically questionable and won't do it again, but is wondering out of pure interest if this is something the airlines are likely to detect and punish him for. I am thinking it would be easy for the airline to detect a mismatch in date of birth for example, but I don't know. Also, what if he flies one airline and credits the miles to another, would they still be able to match that up?

uszkanni Jan 28, 2013 12:25 am

Ya pays your money, ya takes your chances.

mx2 Jan 28, 2013 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by uszkanni (Post 20137060)
Ya pays your money, ya takes your chances.

The question is what those chances are.

lwildernorva Jan 28, 2013 1:35 pm

And the answer is, no one really knows. Those who don't get caught don't pay the price of those who do--it's an all or nothing situation. So, it really is YMMV.

mmaker Jan 28, 2013 3:31 pm

I was wondering why I had AA Gold Status and more miles than my wife. It turns out my mother mixed my FF account with my father's who I also share the same name with. He flew to HKG and ZRH last year and 0 miles in his account. I booked 3 RT tickets in Bus/F HNL-JFK//JFK-GRU before we figured it out. :rolleyes:

84fiero Jan 28, 2013 3:52 pm


Originally Posted by mx2 (Post 20136927)
My friend is named "John Edward Smith" and his brother is "John Matthew Smith". On his frequent flyer accounts he uses "John Smith". He has previously had his brother fly under the name "John Smith" and use his frequent flyer #, and miles were earned without problems. He realizes that this is ethically questionable and won't do it again, but is wondering out of pure interest if this is something the airlines are likely to detect and punish him for. I am thinking it would be easy for the airline to detect a mismatch in date of birth for example, but I don't know. Also, what if he flies one airline and credits the miles to another, would they still be able to match that up?

Someone posts this question several times a year it seems. Ethically "questionable" is putting it mildly! Just using some common sense, what do you suppose the odds are, of pulling it off repeatedly? And what would you do if you were the airline, and discovered it?

SlackerSS23 Jan 28, 2013 3:59 pm

I think it's unethical for parents to give their kids the same name! That's just asking for a childhood filled with chaos.

FAllWay Jan 28, 2013 4:06 pm


Originally Posted by mx2 (Post 20136927)
My friend is named "John Edward Smith" and his brother is "John Matthew Smith". On his frequent flyer accounts he uses "John Smith". He has previously had his brother fly under the name "John Smith" and use his frequent flyer #, and miles were earned without problems. He realizes that this is ethically questionable and won't do it again, but is wondering out of pure interest if this is something the airlines are likely to detect and punish him for. I am thinking it would be easy for the airline to detect a mismatch in date of birth for example, but I don't know. Also, what if he flies one airline and credits the miles to another, would they still be able to match that up?

HAHA!! The "MY FRIEND" routine. Meaning "YOU". ;)

johndoe123 Jan 28, 2013 4:35 pm

Most of the IT systems won't detect birth date mismatch. My guess is flight operations and checkin is fairly detached from FF programs (marketing). Infact, I'm not quite sure it means anything. I noticed the other day mine has said Jan 1st, 1900 or something similar in my profile for likely years.

Reports of being busted generally occur when a flight operations occurs that is impossible or extremely unlikely -- IE: two people flying at once. It is more behavioral analysis than anything. Two people, especially living in the same city and never flying at once will probably go unnoticed.

I don't recommend it though.

kevinwangjk Jan 28, 2013 4:42 pm

Good idea. I'm going to name my future kids my name so I can get FF miles added to me. The more kids I get, the more... #ChurningKids

mikelat Jan 28, 2013 7:36 pm


Originally Posted by kevinwangjk (Post 20142018)
Good idea. I'm going to name my future kids my name so I can get FF miles added to me. The more kids I get, the more... #ChurningKids

I can see it now
Kevin Jr
Kevin the 3rd
Kevin the 4th
Kevin the 5th
Kevin the 6th


Lots of miles for Kevin all the sudden :D

caGALINDO Jan 28, 2013 7:44 pm

cool i will remember this post when i name my kid(s)

redtop43 Jan 28, 2013 7:52 pm

OK, how many miles will someone give me for naming my kids after them?

Oops, forgot, can't post for trades except in Coupon Connection! ;)

TennisPro Jan 28, 2013 9:08 pm


Originally Posted by mx2 (Post 20136927)
My friend is named "John Edward Smith" and his brother is "John Matthew Smith". On his frequent flyer accounts he uses "John Smith". He has previously had his brother fly under the name "John Smith" and use his frequent flyer #, and miles were earned without problems. He realizes that this is ethically questionable and won't do it again, but is wondering out of pure interest if this is something the airlines are likely to detect and punish him for. I am thinking it would be easy for the airline to detect a mismatch in date of birth for example, but I don't know. Also, what if he flies one airline and credits the miles to another, would they still be able to match that up?


So, the brother doesn't care about accumulating frequent flyer miles?

akp Jan 28, 2013 9:09 pm

Ah ha!
 
Now I finally understand why George Foreman named all his kids George.

Anita

PS - I agree with the person upthread who said it is unethical to give two kids the same name. ESPECIALLY if the name happens to be John Smith. Talk about not feeling special...


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