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Old Oct 21, 2012, 5:46 pm
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Question How to properly use points from AMEX Gold PR and Chase Sapphire PR...towards 1 ticket

Hoping you all can help me understand how to best utilize points earned from both cards, towards one airline ticket.

I've always purchased airline tickets through AMEX travel by paying with points. After reading a bit on the forums, it seems many people transfer points to a frequent flyer program, instead.

Is the conversion the same?

If so, would it simply make sense to transfer points from AMEX and Chase to the same program, and redeem that way?

Sorry for the rudimentary question... just want to make sure I have this right.

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Old Oct 21, 2012, 6:16 pm
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Where are you flying from/to? When? In order to use your method, you'd have to make sure you used an airline that both programs transfer to - such as British Airways.
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 6:16 pm
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Currently, I transfer the Chase UR points to United at a 1 for 1 ratio and Amex MR either to Delta at 1 for 1, or to SPG at 3 to 1 then on to American at 1 for 1.

Like the OP, I'm also open to suggestions to maximize my points usage.
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 7:57 pm
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First off: do not buy Amex airline travel with points: it's almost aalways better to transfer the points to the airline program you want to use. Second, Amex MR program has a lot of airline partners, so t's impossible to answer if we don't know what you want. Third, boboqui, getting 1 AA miles for 3 MR points is nowhere nearly a good deal. For example, if you know the AA partners you want to fly on, you could get 1:1 for transfer to British or Cathay Pacific.

The best way to get practical advice is to share more about your travel plans.
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 8:05 pm
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It is typically a better deal to transfer to airline partners, but which one solely depends on where you want to go. 3 MR to 1 AA is a horrible option. I do not see that 3:1 could ever be a good deal unless you absolutely had to have a few miles for an immediate redemption, but I would explore any other option before this.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by skibum7732
3 MR to 1 AA is a horrible option.
I agree. Would I get a 1 to 1 ratio if I transferred the MR points to Avios and redeemed for an AA flight?

Aren't Avios reward fees more that AA's?

What's the best way to get MR traded to AA points?
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 10:00 am
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Originally Posted by boboqui
Would I get a 1 to 1 ratio if I transferred the MR points to Avios and redeemed for an AA flight?
Both Membership Rewards and Ultimate Rewards transfer 1:1 to BAEC, although Membership Rewards sometimes offers 30-50% bonuses on such transfers. There is no bonus today. Your intended use of the Avois points has no effect on the transfer ratio. BA points can be redeemed for travel on AS, AA or any OneWorld airline, but they cannot be transferred to any other program.

Aren't Avios reward fees more that AA's?
This varies by route and partner.

What's the best way to get MR traded to AA points?
There is no sensible way to convert Membership Rewards or Ultimate Rewards to AAdvantage miles.

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Old Oct 22, 2012, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by boboqui
I agree. Would I get a 1 to 1 ratio if I transferred the MR points to Avios and redeemed for an AA flight?

Aren't Avios reward fees more that AA's?

What's the best way to get MR traded to AA points?
BA has a mileage based chart, so if you near an AA hub there are good options domestic short hauls and S. America flights do not have high surcharges. Amex has bonuses from 30-50% often, which can make it even better. It all depends on where you wanna go and from where.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by skibum7732
BA has a mileage based chart, so if you near an AA hub there are good options domestic short hauls and S. America flights do not have high surcharges. Amex has bonuses from 30-50% often, which can make it even better. It all depends on where you wanna go and from where.
I compared the same award flight on AA and Avios and got the same award price. However, the difference in points was 62.5%. GIG-NYC AA=20K Avios=32.5K

So it would only be worth to transfer MR to to Avios with at least 50% bonus.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 3:01 pm
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"I compared the same award flight on AA and Avios and got the same award price. However, the difference in points was 62.5%. GIG-NYC AA=20K Avios=32.5K"

It's not quite that simple. If you could find an award seat on AA's nonstop GIG-JFK flight, the cost is only 25K Avios year-round. AA will charge you 30K for the same flight during peak season; the 20K award is only offered during AA's off-peak season between North America and Brazil.
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 5:14 pm
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"I compared the same award flight on AA and Avios and got the same award price. However, the difference in points was 62.5%. GIG-NYC AA=20K Avios=32.5K"

It's not quite that simple. If you could find an award seat on AA's nonstop GIG-JFK flight, the cost is only 25K Avios year-round. AA will charge you 30K for the same flight during peak season; the 20K award is only offered during AA's off-peak season between North America and Brazil.
good to know, thanks!
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 5:43 pm
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Very intelligent OP...

Excellent question try transferring to united
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Old Oct 22, 2012, 10:26 pm
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Good discussion.
Any means to use Amex points to fly on Ethihad ?
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 8:06 am
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Originally Posted by ftbargain
Any means to use Amex points to fly on Ethihad ?
Transfer to ANA:

http://www.ana.co.jp/wws/us/e/asw_co...ikeiair_1.html
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 8:16 pm
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Originally Posted by mia
Both Membership Rewards and Ultimate Rewards transfer 1:1 to BAEC, although Membership Rewards sometimes offers 30-50% bonuses on such transfers. There is no bonus today.
Any good way to track/alert when there is the transfer bonus? I only have a bit over 11k MR points that I figure I can transfer to Avios at a 50% bonus to get a decent SEA-SFO flight booking award, or use for adding on a 'free' stopover on another AA award ticket, at 10k less points/miles than booking Y on AA. Much better than just cashing in for a $100 gift card at Williams Sonoma.

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