New 50-60K HH Amex offers - till 10/31/12
Oct 11, 2012, 5:44 pm
#46
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,604
Posts: 532
Hilton Surpass
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I upgraded my Hilton Honors Visa to the surpass and got the $3K spend /50,000 points offer
I was contacted by Amex this week asking if I was happy with the card. Long story short she switched me back to the no fee amex and I can keep the bonus. I have a Hilton Honors card stating I am Gold until March 2014 but I have no idea if they will revoke that, as of today I received the no fee card and I'm still Gold.
I also received a sttaement credit for ~$40 for a pro rated refund on the Surpass annual fee...................one thing...........they NEVER charged me an annual fee while I held the surpass which was about 5 months so basically they gave me $40 bucks
Just thought I would share my story for people like me who get no more value out of the Surpass ( rarely stay at Hiltons) than the no fee card
Hilton Surpass
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I upgraded my Hilton Honors Visa to the surpass and got the $3K spend /50,000 points offer
I was contacted by Amex this week asking if I was happy with the card. Long story short she switched me back to the no fee amex and I can keep the bonus. I have a Hilton Honors card stating I am Gold until March 2014 but I have no idea if they will revoke that, as of today I received the no fee card and I'm still Gold.
I also received a sttaement credit for ~$40 for a pro rated refund on the Surpass annual fee...................one thing...........they NEVER charged me an annual fee while I held the surpass which was about 5 months so basically they gave me $40 bucks
Just thought I would share my story for people like me who get no more value out of the Surpass ( rarely stay at Hiltons) than the no fee card
Oct 12, 2012, 12:20 pm
#48
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,604
Surpass has an annual fee but for some reason I was never charged it but was given a pro rated refund when I switched back to the no fee Amex
Oct 24, 2012, 8:46 pm
#49
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: BOS .. but soon SFO
Programs: UA PLAT, TK GLD, Hilton Diamond, IC PLAT, SPG GLD, Marriott GLD
Posts: 1,528
I have the final outcome of double dipping
I was rejected for the SURPASS signon bonus and finally got clarification from AMEX from a supervisor.
I'm pretty pissed off because I verified this crap with a CSR before doing it. Originally I was told that the SURPASS was a different product than the one I had and would thus qualify, but not so.
AMEX considers all hilton cards as one product, it doesn't matter what kind of hilton card it is.
In order to qualify for multiple hilton bonuses you need to have 12 months +1 day from your last application AND have the account closed for a minimum of 90 days.
you CAN NOT have ANY hilton AMEX open if you plan on double dipping.
However, if I had clicked this link to upgrade my fee-free to SURPASS, I would have gotten an additional 50k for $3k spend
http://www304.americanexpress.com/ge...Honors-Surpass
(if it doesn't show up, log into your amex account)
And they pulled some BS that they couldn't give me that because the departments are separate or whatever.
I asked if they would at least waive the annual fee and they said only if I cancelled the card.
So I basically wasted $3k in spend on this card to get nothing out of it
I was rejected for the SURPASS signon bonus and finally got clarification from AMEX from a supervisor.
I'm pretty pissed off because I verified this crap with a CSR before doing it. Originally I was told that the SURPASS was a different product than the one I had and would thus qualify, but not so.
AMEX considers all hilton cards as one product, it doesn't matter what kind of hilton card it is.
In order to qualify for multiple hilton bonuses you need to have 12 months +1 day from your last application AND have the account closed for a minimum of 90 days.
you CAN NOT have ANY hilton AMEX open if you plan on double dipping.
However, if I had clicked this link to upgrade my fee-free to SURPASS, I would have gotten an additional 50k for $3k spend
http://www304.americanexpress.com/ge...Honors-Surpass
(if it doesn't show up, log into your amex account)
And they pulled some BS that they couldn't give me that because the departments are separate or whatever.
I asked if they would at least waive the annual fee and they said only if I cancelled the card.
So I basically wasted $3k in spend on this card to get nothing out of it
Oct 25, 2012, 11:19 pm
#50
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 361
I have the final outcome of double dipping
I was rejected for the SURPASS signon bonus and finally got clarification from AMEX from a supervisor.
I'm pretty pissed off because I verified this crap with a CSR before doing it. Originally I was told that the SURPASS was a different product than the one I had and would thus qualify, but not so.
AMEX considers all hilton cards as one product, it doesn't matter what kind of hilton card it is.
In order to qualify for multiple hilton bonuses you need to have 12 months +1 day from your last application AND have the account closed for a minimum of 90 days.
you CAN NOT have ANY hilton AMEX open if you plan on double dipping.
However, if I had clicked this link to upgrade my fee-free to SURPASS, I would have gotten an additional 50k for $3k spend
http://www304.americanexpress.com/ge...Honors-Surpass
(if it doesn't show up, log into your amex account)
And they pulled some BS that they couldn't give me that because the departments are separate or whatever.
I asked if they would at least waive the annual fee and they said only if I cancelled the card.
So I basically wasted $3k in spend on this card to get nothing out of it
I was rejected for the SURPASS signon bonus and finally got clarification from AMEX from a supervisor.
I'm pretty pissed off because I verified this crap with a CSR before doing it. Originally I was told that the SURPASS was a different product than the one I had and would thus qualify, but not so.
AMEX considers all hilton cards as one product, it doesn't matter what kind of hilton card it is.
In order to qualify for multiple hilton bonuses you need to have 12 months +1 day from your last application AND have the account closed for a minimum of 90 days.
you CAN NOT have ANY hilton AMEX open if you plan on double dipping.
However, if I had clicked this link to upgrade my fee-free to SURPASS, I would have gotten an additional 50k for $3k spend
http://www304.americanexpress.com/ge...Honors-Surpass
(if it doesn't show up, log into your amex account)
And they pulled some BS that they couldn't give me that because the departments are separate or whatever.
I asked if they would at least waive the annual fee and they said only if I cancelled the card.
So I basically wasted $3k in spend on this card to get nothing out of it
Terms: "Welcome bonus offer not available to applicants who have had this product within the last 12 months or any other Consumer Hilton HHonors® Credit Card account within the last 90 days."
We now know the 1 year is from last application and 90 days is from date of closing. It's strange the word "had" means "applied" for the 12 months clause, but then it means "have open"
That to me means we could churn the Hilton HHonors no fee AMEX every year+few days by closing the card at the beginning of month 9 of opening the card.
Oct 26, 2012, 5:01 am
#52
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: MCI
Programs: AA, DL, WN, HHonors Diamond, IHG Platinum, Marriott, Hyatt
Posts: 249
For those of you that received an upgrade offer for Surpass after having the AMEX no-fee card.........when did the upgrade offer appear (how soon after receiving your no-fee card)?
Also, when you get an upgrade offer, is it inside of your AMEX online account?
Thanks.
Also, when you get an upgrade offer, is it inside of your AMEX online account?
Thanks.
Oct 26, 2012, 9:50 am
#53
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Melbourne, Florida, USA
Posts: 2,983
Log into your amex online account, then click the link in post #49. The upgrade offer showed for me, even though I have not received anything by email/mail yet.
Oct 26, 2012, 11:02 am
#54
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,756
Since the upgrade doesn't change your CC number, do anyone know if the upgrade is immediate or do we still need to wait for a new card to be received and activated before the spending start to be accounted for?
Oct 26, 2012, 1:01 pm
#55
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: PAE
Programs: National Exec Elite, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 79
The OP and subject line should be changed, if this is the thread for the most up-to-date Hilton Amex offers. This link is for the 65k Hilton AmEx: https://www262.americanexpress.com/a...canexpress.com
Oct 27, 2012, 2:25 pm
#57
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 218
FYI
For those with the free standard card looking to upgrade to the SURPASS without a new hard pull:
http://www304.americanexpress.com/ge...Honors-Surpass
Click on that link while signed into your AMEX account and an upgrade button will show up. The offer is for 50k after $3k in 90 days vs the 60k here, but you save a hard pull, which is great IMHO
I am still waiting on my SURPASS to arrive. It's been 3 weeks since I was approved and I called today. They said it was marked as received, but I guess it got lost in the mail?
For those with the free standard card looking to upgrade to the SURPASS without a new hard pull:
http://www304.americanexpress.com/ge...Honors-Surpass
Click on that link while signed into your AMEX account and an upgrade button will show up. The offer is for 50k after $3k in 90 days vs the 60k here, but you save a hard pull, which is great IMHO
I am still waiting on my SURPASS to arrive. It's been 3 weeks since I was approved and I called today. They said it was marked as received, but I guess it got lost in the mail?
So you got the 50k bonus for signing up for the regular hilton honors card and then when you signed into your account you saw an upgrade offer for 50k when you upgrade to the surpass card? How long did you have the first card before you got the upgrade offer?
Oct 31, 2012, 4:02 pm
#58
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: BOS .. but soon SFO
Programs: UA PLAT, TK GLD, Hilton Diamond, IC PLAT, SPG GLD, Marriott GLD
Posts: 1,528
1) your hilton AMEX must be closed for 90 days
2) you have to wait 12 months to reapply.
So if you got a Surpass in Jan, then you need to close your account now and can qualify to reapply in Feb
Oct 31, 2012, 4:04 pm
#59
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: BOS .. but soon SFO
Programs: UA PLAT, TK GLD, Hilton Diamond, IC PLAT, SPG GLD, Marriott GLD
Posts: 1,528
the upgrade offer is a standard link ... the link i posted.
Nov 14, 2012, 6:39 pm
#60
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: BOS
Programs: MR, UR, AA, AS, HH Gold, SPG Gold, HGP, RR
Posts: 708
I received a targeted offer today for the HH Amex via snailmail. 60K after $750 spend in first 3 months. Nowhere on the 2 pages that were in the offer does it state that the bonus would not be valid for previous or current cardholders or previous recipients of HH bonus points from Amex.
I actually already have this card from my September apps (I got the 50K bonus then and have already met the spend and received the points). The offer specifies my HH points total as of 8/20/12 so may have been triggered by my last Hilton stay which was in July.
My original plan was to upgrade for the 60K bonus annual fee card. Now I'm wondering if I can double dip on the no fee card then go back for thirds on the upgrade to my original card... can you hold 2 of the same HH Amex cards?
I actually already have this card from my September apps (I got the 50K bonus then and have already met the spend and received the points). The offer specifies my HH points total as of 8/20/12 so may have been triggered by my last Hilton stay which was in July.
My original plan was to upgrade for the 60K bonus annual fee card. Now I'm wondering if I can double dip on the no fee card then go back for thirds on the upgrade to my original card... can you hold 2 of the same HH Amex cards?