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civico Jun 21, 2012 10:21 pm


Originally Posted by yoyo (Post 18799393)
Just booked a one-way F ticket JFK->YVR->HKG->HGH with AA miles on CX. What stop over can I do? is YVR considered NA gateway? Thx.

If YVR is the last place that you are before leaving the North American region, which it is, then yes, it can be a NA gateway city. Any place in NA that is the last place you are before leaving NA, or the first place you arrive when coming back in to NA, is considered a gateway city and you are allowed to stopover.

yoyo Jun 21, 2012 10:31 pm


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 18799409)
Ahh, yes, I was looking at the partner chart. I forgot AAdvantage miles for international flights on just AA :p



In that case, YVR is your gateway.

Are you on CX 889 the whole way to HKG? Reason I ask is because CX 889 is JFK-HKG with a stopover in YVR. I don't know if it's possible to book that and have JFK as your stopover since 889 is technically flight to HKG.

Yes. CX889 all the way to HKG. I was told I dont need to get off the plane in YVR. Just trying to learn what extra I can get out of this trip. Thank you.

amolkold Jun 21, 2012 10:45 pm


Originally Posted by yoyo (Post 18799448)
Yes. CX889 all the way to HKG. I was told I dont need to get off the plane in YVR. Just trying to learn what extra I can get out of this trip. Thank you.

You could try to see if you can get a free one-way to JFK and convince them that that's your actual North American gateway. You would have to fly the one-way, else your ticket would be canceled. Also, unless your miles came from an EXP account, it would be $150 to change origin.

You could have a stopover in YVR the way you have it set up now. CX 889 one-day to YVR, stopover, then CX 889 to HKG (or 837 on the days where it has F).

kayexalate Jun 22, 2012 7:25 am

Award Ticket: SFO-JFK DOH-RGN with stopover in DOH?
 
Trying to use my UA miles for an award ticket to SE Asia and found this route on combination of UA and QR flights for 32.5 k miles OW

Will UA allow me to have a stopover in DOH for no additional miles? (not a stopover in North America)

Or will that reprice the itinerary as a middle east trip and cost me 40k miles OW?

If I can stopover in DOH, how long can that stopover be?

Any other NA to SE asia routes that go TATL to allow stopovers in Europe or the middle east?

I also found SFO-MUC-BKK-RGN (on combinations of UA and TG)

Actually looking to go to BKK as a final destination with ideally a stopover in DXB, but most of the time when I put in SFO-BKK it routes me transpacific.

slowly Jun 22, 2012 8:00 am

Going back to the original question BMI did allow that. Not sure about now.

UA Fan Jun 22, 2012 10:55 am


Originally Posted by guv1976 (Post 18770948)
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AA permits a free stopover only at the North American gateway, on an award between North America and another zone. The free stopover can therefore only occur in the U.S., Canada, or Mexico. (AA recently prohibited the stopover from occurring in the Caribbean on such awards.)

Darn I was hoping to do PHX DFW (stop) MEX MAD.

Can one do LAX HNL (stop) NRT?

UA Fan Jun 22, 2012 10:56 am


Originally Posted by kayexalate (Post 18800811)
Trying to use my UA miles for an award ticket to SE Asia and found this route on combination of UA and QR flights for 32.5 k miles OW

Will UA allow me to have a stopover in DOH for no additional miles? (not a stopover in North America)

Or will that reprice the itinerary as a middle east trip and cost me 40k miles OW?

If I can stopover in DOH, how long can that stopover be?

Any other NA to SE asia routes that go TATL to allow stopovers in Europe or the middle east?

I also found SFO-MUC-BKK-RGN (on combinations of UA and TG)

Actually looking to go to BKK as a final destination with ideally a stopover in DXB, but most of the time when I put in SFO-BKK it routes me transpacific.

Fyi the UA QR partnership has ended or will soon.

kayexalate Jun 22, 2012 11:05 am


Originally Posted by UA Fan (Post 18802046)
Fyi the UA QR partnership has ended or will soon.

Still showing up as bookable for award miles on their website as far out as February.

So does UA allow a stopover outside of North America?

UA Fan Jun 22, 2012 11:08 am


Originally Posted by kayexalate (Post 18802092)
Still showing up as bookable for award miles on their website as far out as February.

So does UA allow a stopover outside of North America?

There is a thread about this in the UA forum. AFAIK one cannot book QR over the phone. Only one way awards online. So I doubt a stopover is possible.

guv1976 Jun 22, 2012 11:18 am

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Originally Posted by UA Fan

Originally Posted by guv1976 (Post 18770948)
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AA permits a free stopover only at the North American gateway, on an award between North America and another zone. The free stopover can therefore only occur in the U.S., Canada, or Mexico. (AA recently prohibited the stopover from occurring in the Caribbean on such awards.)

Darn I was hoping to do PHX DFW (stop) MEX MAD.

Can one do LAX HNL (stop) NRT?

Only if the carrier for the HNL-NRT leg publishes a LAX-NRT through-fare that permits routing via HNL.

Happy Jun 22, 2012 11:20 am


Originally Posted by kayexalate (Post 18802092)
Still showing up as bookable for award miles on their website as far out as February.

So does UA allow a stopover outside of North America?

If you include QR in your award, better pray that you dont need any change / assistance down the road. When a partnership is ended, any subsequent change involved that partner could be a night mare even for a top elite of the airline.

kayexalate Jun 22, 2012 11:34 am


Originally Posted by Happy (Post 18802185)
If you include QR in your award, better pray that you dont need any change / assistance down the road. When a partnership is ended, any subsequent change involved that partner could be a night mare even for a top elite of the airline.

But how about in general (not necessarily QR) does UA allow a stopover in another geographic area that is not origin or destination? (i.e. N. AM- Europe (stopover) - SE Asia?)

UA Fan Jun 22, 2012 12:02 pm


Originally Posted by kayexalate (Post 18802262)
But how about in general (not necessarily QR) does UA allow a stopover in another geographic area that is not origin or destination? (i.e. N. AM- Europe (stopover) - SE Asia?)

Yes but on a RT award.

UA Fan Jun 22, 2012 12:04 pm


Originally Posted by guv1976 (Post 18802179)
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Only if the carrier for the HNL-NRT leg publishes a LAX-NRT through-fare that permits routing via HNL.

Assuming it is, can it still be done? Just want to know if there is a clause that only continental NA gateways can be used.

guv1976 Jun 22, 2012 1:34 pm

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Only if the carrier for the HNL-NRT leg publishes a LAX-NRT through-fare that permits routing via HNL.

Assuming it is, can it still be done? Just want to know if there is a clause that only continental NA gateways can be used.

No, there's no restriction that limits the stopover to continental gateways, although AA recently excluded Caribbean stopovers. I believe that others have already posted about getting a stopover at HNL on certain international awards.


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