Legal question regarding miles
#31
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OP -take the advice given twice already. Look at actual statements to ensure miles aren't expiring.
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This thread seems to get into the specifics of cashing out miles if that is the desired course of action.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...ift-cards.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...ift-cards.html
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If the latter, I have to disagree. Selling your miles violates your agreement with the airlines, but it is not illegal in any way. Signing up for a FFP does not give the airlines the right to audit your bank accounts. The airlines may very well figure out that OP's uncle is selling tickets, but they will not figure it out from tracing his checks.
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Just have Uncle Fester give you his account numbers and PW and go at it
At his birthday, Xmas, and every other holiday in between, give Uncle Fester something he could use, want or would like to have
No need for any written agreements
Just a quick chat in the parlor amongst you two that no one else has to hear
At his birthday, Xmas, and every other holiday in between, give Uncle Fester something he could use, want or would like to have
No need for any written agreements
Just a quick chat in the parlor amongst you two that no one else has to hear
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Just have Uncle Fester give you his account numbers and PW and go at it
At his birthday, Xmas, and every other holiday in between, give Uncle Fester something he could use, want or would like to have
No need for any written agreements
Just a quick chat in the parlor amongst you two that no one else has to hear
At his birthday, Xmas, and every other holiday in between, give Uncle Fester something he could use, want or would like to have
No need for any written agreements
Just a quick chat in the parlor amongst you two that no one else has to hear
You can do the same thing, and as a member of FT you will likely maximize those award miles/points to the fullest.
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I too see this as the most efficient use of those miles. In fact, my wife does not even know any of her FF#s or passwords for any of her loyalty programs. I signed her up for all of the programs/cards and I book all of the award flights/nights for her.
You can do the same thing, and as a member of FT you will likely maximize those award miles/points to the fullest.
You can do the same thing, and as a member of FT you will likely maximize those award miles/points to the fullest.
First, check other board to see which points can be passed for free through the estate. If I remember correctly, there is some opaqueness is the info out there, but worth some research. Use those last.
For the rest of the points, ask for control of the accounts. Use those to book family members. If the family members give anything back to your uncle in exchange and the airline catches them (e.g., they brag to the ticket agent that they only gave $x to their uncle for their dream trip to Maui and the TA rats them out) they are putting all of your uncle's miles with that airline at risk. They are not breaking any law from a criminal perspective, just a contract with remedies. Think of not paying your rent when it is due. You don't go to jail, you just get kicked out onto to the street (maybe), have your credit rating destroyed and possibly have your wages garnished, all of which would be much better than losing 1MM miles because your cousin couldn't keep his mouth shut
Regardless, don't let those precious miles go to waste, even if your uncle doesn't get paid back with money. I'm pretty sure the airline won't strip your account if the remuneration was a big hug and a thank you card. Anything more and it is simply a risk/reward calculation.
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NEVER EVER USE a company or broker that buys miles. You not only can or will loose the miles you sold but the everything in your uncles account.
You can find many news articles, flyertalk post on airlines like American, United, etc closing freq flyer accounts, brokers not paying customer, etc.
You even have true cases where miles have been transfered to relative and and at the airport checkin the relative is denied a travel and accused of getting their ticket from someone who sold their freq flyer miles.
BE VERY VERY CAREFUL. TRUST NO ONE
You can find many news articles, flyertalk post on airlines like American, United, etc closing freq flyer accounts, brokers not paying customer, etc.
You even have true cases where miles have been transfered to relative and and at the airport checkin the relative is denied a travel and accused of getting their ticket from someone who sold their freq flyer miles.
BE VERY VERY CAREFUL. TRUST NO ONE
Anyway if your uncle can't use them have him transfer it to family members. Why would he rather have the miles go to waste?
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While selling them might be against the rules, giving them to someone who later gives you a present is not. Friends give friends presents all the time.