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amolkold Sep 9, 2012 9:16 pm


Originally Posted by crimson12 (Post 19285143)
Can you explain this? I'm at 58k, and my GM status is good till 2/28/2013. But I thought I only had until 12/31/2012 to hit 75k for PM? If I have an additional two months my calculus might change.

If you are at 58K for the year, that means you've earned GM through 2/28/2014 (for Medallion Year 2013). If you hit 75K before 12/31/2012, you'll be Platinum for MY2013.

If you stop today, you will rollover 8,000 MQMs, and will have to fly 67K in 2013 to hit PM for MY2014. In your case, I'd probably just go for PM this year.

My case is a bit difference since I haven't re-upped on GM yet. That means I can keep my MY2012 GM until 2/28/2013 and rollover 24K to start off on 1/1/2013. If I stay with that, I'll drop to FO on 3/1/2013. However, if I fly 26K by 2/28/2013, I'll requalify for GM for MY2014 (keeping it for almost 2 years, until 2/28/2015).


This is a really good point. My wife and I have over 500k DL miles between us and have just not found the kinds of redemptions we want. So hitting PM now (which would be good through 2/28/2014) might be a good way to get flexibility in canceling award tickets while I transition to another program.
Only awards booked with your miles could be cancelled for free (unless your wife has PM/DM status as well).


With regard to AA, how do the 500 mile upgrades work? As I see on the website, you can buy one for $30. Let's assume it's 3000 miles transcon. Does this mean I can upgrade r/t transcon for $180 each way? If so that seems like a pretty good deal.
I have some experience with this since my folks are AA PLT. As a GLD or PLT, you earn 4 500-mile upgrade stickers in your account for each 10K qualifying miles you fly (there are more complexities on when the counter resets but I'm not sure on that, the AA board knows all).

You can also purchase them for $30 each. You can apply them for travel to any domestic flights (including Hawaii) and they'll clear at 72 hours for PLT and 24 hours for GLD.

Transcons are actually closer to 2500, so you only need 5 for JFK-LAX and JFK-, but 6 for JFK-SFO. There's a 51 mile grace, so 2551 mile would be 5 stickers while 2552 miles would be 6 stickers.

Keep in mind that EXPs clear at 96-100 hours out.

Adelphos May 28, 2013 9:35 am

Reviving this thread...

I've been a DL Silver for most of this year. I like the IROPS help, the ability to select exit rows at booking (and EC at 24 hours), and the upgrades (I have had decent success so far).

However, what I don't like is the relative low order in boarding and the lack of access to any priority security lane.

From what I understand, AA offers priority boarding to its Gold members (25,000 miles)? What is the chance this benefit is eliminated after the US Air / AA merger is completed? It may be worth it to explore AA just for that (or maybe I should just shoot for Gold on DL).

pinniped May 28, 2013 1:18 pm

Unless something's changed in the past couple of months, AA Gold boards similarly to UA or US low-tier. After F and high-tier elites, but ahead of the general crowd.

You *may* share a group with the credit-card-holding group. I'm never quite sure about that. But even flying in/out of DFW with lots of elites, I've never been forced to gate-check a carryon as an AA Gold. Pretty sure it also gets elite security access as well...

I don't see why this would go away with the US merger.

CMK10 May 29, 2013 12:58 pm

Did a roundtrip last weekend, first flight on AA second flight on US.

As an AA Gold:
- Priority Security line at RDU
- Priority boarding (Priority Access, after First, EXP and Platinum)
- Exit row free at booking

As a UA Silver flying US:
- No Priority Security line at DCA, also saw a US Silver turned away
- No Priority boarding as Star Silver (Zone 4, US Silver would have been Zone 2 I believe)
- Only paid seats left when I booked the flight. I believe US Silvers don't have access to these either.

I'm putting AA Gold and DL Silver at Tier 1, UA and US Silver at Tier 2.

ChicagoDave May 29, 2013 4:17 pm

UA Silver benefits are very similar to the UA credit card holders except for possible upgrades & E+ seating at check-in.

eponymous_coward May 29, 2013 9:09 pm

AS MVP: 50% RDM bonus, 20K EQM on AS. Exit row on AS, DL AND AA.

Sounds pretty generous if you ask me.

mr_rogers May 29, 2013 9:44 pm


Originally Posted by eponymous_coward (Post 20833621)
AS MVP: 50% RDM bonus, 20K EQM on AS. Exit row on AS, DL AND AA.

Sounds pretty generous if you ask me.

I second AS. Other airlines only receive a 20% bonus plus have no reciprocity.

beckoa May 30, 2013 1:38 pm

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Originally Posted by mr_rogers

Originally Posted by eponymous_coward (Post 20833621)
AS MVP: 50% RDM bonus, 20K EQM on AS. Exit row on AS, DL AND AA.

Sounds pretty generous if you ask me.

I second AS. Other airlines only receive a 20% bonus plus have no reciprocity.

And upgrades can happen on DL and AS as an AS MVP ^

Just last week a family member was upgraded on ANC-SEA redeye ;)

amolkold Jun 1, 2013 6:16 pm


Originally Posted by beckoa (Post 20837545)
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And upgrades can happen on DL and AS as an AS MVP ^

Just last week a family member was upgraded on ANC-SEA redeye ;)

Delta upgrades as an Alaska Elite Member happen after ALL Delta Medallions have been upgraded, and it's tough out there for a Delta Silver.

eponymous_coward Jun 1, 2013 10:58 pm


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 20849522)
Delta upgrades as an Alaska Elite Member happen after ALL Delta Medallions have been upgraded, and it's tough out there for a Delta Silver.

You get exit row though, on DL AND AA (and, for the moment, MCE on AA for free).

beckoa Jun 5, 2013 3:09 am


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 20849522)
Delta upgrades as an Alaska Elite Member happen after ALL Delta Medallions have been upgraded, and it's tough out there for a Delta Silver.

True... but I've had a couple of nice upgrades on DL- MSY seems to have decent results, as does Central America ^.

amolkold Jun 5, 2013 11:40 am


Originally Posted by beckoa (Post 20869012)
True... but I've had a couple of nice upgrades on DL- MSY seems to have decent results, as does Central America ^.

Central America is a very easy upgrade, especially with 5 elites on planes with 26 F seats.

lisa2926 Jun 5, 2013 11:43 am

can not find any meaningful privilege as a UA silver

CMK10 Jun 5, 2013 7:15 pm


Originally Posted by lisa2926 (Post 20871151)
can not find any meaningful privilege as a UA silver

There are a few:

- Elite Access so priority boarding and security lines
- 25% mileage bonus
- Free checked bag
- Theoretical upgrades (I've gotten three this year as a Silver)
- Good shot at free E+

It's not the best but it's not worthless, either.

lisa2926 Jun 7, 2013 3:24 pm

AA gold


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