Rate My Churn!
I have learned so much this summer. Let me be more specific:
BA 5/8 100k AA Citi Visa 7/15 75k AA Citi Amex 7/15 75k (still working on the spend) Amex PRG 7/21 75k (have SM promising to bump the bonus) US Air MC 7/25 40k Along with those, I was denied for a Chase Southwest BUSINESS Visa (along with the 50k miles) that I applied for on 7/12. So what's next? As of right now: AA Citi Business 75k Chase Sapphire 50k Amex SPG 25k The only other truly viable options seem like hotel cards (Hyatt, Hilton), but I don't see myself going to Paris, Tokyo, or the Maldives in the next few years, so I know I can't get maximum value from the Hyatt, and the Hilton miles just don't seem very valuable when I can use AA miles to stay at hotels (or Chase UR points, or SPG points/points+cash). I'm really interested in hearing the FT opinions about my plans. I'm going to wait until next month (90 days from last application) to do my next round, even though I could apply for AA Citi Business today, because I feel like I should do all apps on the same day, and I don't want to do my churn before hearing about the offer Ingersoll has been discussing that is coming out on his birthday. I guess my real reason for posting is to hear if I'm overlooking anything, or hopefully, get some nods of approval. Everything I've learned about this great game, I've learned here, so it felt only right to ask you guys if you think I'm going about this the right way. On the awesome side, my girlfriend and I are going to Toronto, where I have always wanted to go, next month. Roundtrip flights and 3 nights at a decent looking hotel were only ~80k AA points. Amazing. Looking forward to going to Brazil next summer with the GF for 80k BA points as well. THANKS EVERYBODY!! |
umm just look at all the other people that start new threads with the 10+ cards they applied for all at once and compare to their lists? It should be the same.
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Technically, the word "churn" is used to describe applying for the same card product over and over again.
Lately, I have noticed a few (admirably enthusiastic) newbies conflating the term "churn" with "App-O-Rama," which is the term used when you apply for a bunch of different cards, all around the same time. OP, what you have here is an app-o-rama. Sorry to be the word-nazi, but I just thought I should speak up, before the term "churn" degenerates into just "a bunch of applications." :) |
tomato/tomatoe, potato/potatoe
An "App-O-Rama" is just stripmining cards for miles if a one time event or plastic recycling when you take a second dip with the same chip. Recycling is so much better for our financial environment, but...ummm...I think I'll pass on dipping in your salsa bowl. Churn? Well, that is something you do to create butter. Simply not appropriate, as we create lucre, golden in color, but hard to spread around (well, at least since the mint closed<g>). :D
Originally Posted by ckpeter
(Post 17158332)
Technically, the word "churn" is used to describe applying for the same card product over and over again.
Lately, I have noticed a few (admirably enthusiastic) newbies conflating the term "churn" with "App-O-Roma," which is the term used when you apply for a bunch of different cards, all around the same time. OP, what you have here is an app-o-roma. Sorry to be the word-nazi, but I just thought I should speak up, before the term "churn" degenerates into just "a bunch of applications." :) |
Originally Posted by ckpeter
(Post 17158332)
Sorry to be the word-nazi, but I just thought I should speak up,
before the term "churn" degenerates into just "a bunch of applications." :) I even looked in the FT Glossary... nada... http://www.flyertalk.com/glossary/?letter_start=C |
Originally Posted by ckpeter
(Post 17158332)
OP, what you have here is an app-o-rama.
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OP - well done for applying for some credit cards. Go ahead and apply for some more. You're clearly thinking it through and you've established it's not rocket science. There's plenty enough to read on the subject (on FT and various blogs) and you don't need anyone's approval. Just get on with it.
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Definition of Churn
the meaning changed in my mind when the ultimate churn machine (citi) stopped unlimited applications. Now I'm churning up points when applying for multiple cards.
to each his own, but that's how I define a churn now. Simply applying for cards with the sign up bonus as my primary goal. My new motto:" If it ain't fifty and ain't so nifty". Come on 50k+ offers. |
Thanks for the responses, guys. This game certainly ain't rocket science. Will update in a month when everything (hopefully) goes off as planned.
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Originally Posted by MSYnola
(Post 17159461)
This game certainly ain't rocket science.
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Originally Posted by MSYnola
(Post 17158070)
Along with those, I was denied for a Chase Southwest BUSINESS Visa (along with the 50k miles) that I applied for on 7/12. |
Originally Posted by Million Mile Secrets
(Post 17159771)
Did you try calling the reconsideration line? Chase has been getting very strict, but you may be able to get them to approve you for another card.
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I've had success twice calling Chase for reconsideration. They were happy to shuffle my credit limits to avoid increasing their exposure.
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Originally Posted by QL_714
(Post 17159875)
I have seen numerous posts with just the opposite happening. If you get denied and call for reconsideration they are letting you move part of your CL to the card you applied for and approving it. Very easy process.
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Originally Posted by TheManofaThousandPlaces
(Post 17159945)
I really don't need $20K limits on any of my cards.
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