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JDiver May 21, 2011 9:35 pm

This is FlyerTalk, so the first job is to exponentially increase your harvest of miles (and points). No, I mean it.

What you prefer to spend them on is up to you; for me, I have given some "dream trips" to others - e.g. US-HKG-BKK r/t in First for a honeymooning couple that was very concerned they were not at all well off (restaurant business!), wanting to visit his family in Thailand, and looking at over $3,200 in (yech!) Coach! Instead, they got silk pyjamas, suites, F lounge access, a much more memorable way to get there and back. Cost to me, some miles; benefit to them, priceless.

(As they discussed the dates and costs, wondering how they were going to do it all, @:-) went on - the looks on their faces when I told them casually they would be flying First Class on Japan Airlines, first disbelief - "Of COURSE we're not!" and ultimately calling to verify the PNR I have them... THAT was the payoff to me!)

No doubt, study FlyerTalk and 'way up your take, broaden your scope and raise the barrier.

Ancien Maestro May 21, 2011 11:30 pm


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 16427684)
This is FlyerTalk, so the first job is to exponentially increase your harvest of miles (and points). No, I mean it.

What you prefer to spend them on is up to you; for me, I have given some "dream trips" to others - e.g. US-HKG-BKK r/t in First for a honeymooning couple that was very concerned they were not at all well off (restaurant business!), wanting to visit his family in Thailand, and looking at over $3,200 in (yech!) Coach! Instead, they got silk pyjamas, suites, F lounge access, a much more memorable way to get there and back. Cost to me, some miles; benefit to them, priceless.

(As they discussed the dates and costs, wondering how they were going to do it all, @:-) went on - the looks on their faces when I told them casually they would be flying First Class on Japan Airlines, first disbelief - "Of COURSE we're not!" and ultimately calling to verify the PNR I have them... THAT was the payoff to me!)

No doubt, study FlyerTalk and 'way up your take, broaden your scope and raise the barrier.

Motivational speaking at its finest.^

Being a 15 year member of AE.. we've flown on points all the time..

Miles collections has opened up spectrums.. all of a sudden more money in the coffers to up the level of travel in terms of accomodations and such.

Instead of spending $thousands on travel before getting there.. the $thousands are saved either for accomodations or another trip.. so its' been a couple of vacations a year for us now for last 5 years on points..

Joining FT, I've opened my eyes to new possibilities learning from many contributors here on FT! A heartfelt thank you!:cool:

GetSetJetSet May 22, 2011 12:00 pm

longhaul F. It pains me to redeem for shorter F flights that are still long-haul, like TATL flights. One of the best values out there in my opinion is Europe to Southern Africa in F for 100k.

broadwayblue May 22, 2011 12:07 pm

Depends how much time you have to travel. If I had several months to travel the world each year I'd likely redeem for the maximum number of trips...but since I don't I go for J awards that I otherwise couldn't justify purchasing using cash.

Gamecock May 22, 2011 12:47 pm

In December of 2008 I had a measly 40K miles with AA. :eek: Then I discovered FT.

Current levels: 610,000 LT miles and 530,000 RDMs, 70K HH and 51K SPG points.

I have used my miles for east bound TATL upgrades.

Right now I am planning on using the remaining to take the family on an exotic trip to Asia when I retire from the US Army in the next year or two.

tommyleo May 22, 2011 7:56 pm


Originally Posted by Ericka (Post 16419188)
First and business class tickets to faraway places like Asia and Africa. In other words....flights that cost in the the tens of thousands each, that you could never afford to purchase yourself.

ABSOLUTELY!!!!

(See my signature below for proof! :D)

Ocn Vw 1K May 22, 2011 10:12 pm

Great thread for the MilesBuzz forum. I'll move the thread there. Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator, TravelBuzz.

Ancien Maestro May 22, 2011 11:14 pm


Originally Posted by Gamecock (Post 16430052)
In December of 2008 I had a measly 40K miles with AA. :eek: Then I discovered FT.

Current levels: 610,000 LT miles and 530,000 RDMs, 70K HH and 51K SPG points.

I have used my miles for east bound TATL upgrades.

Right now I am planning on using the remaining to take the family on an exotic trip to Asia when I retire from the US Army in the next year or two.

Sounds like FT did the trick..

Looking forward for myself to benefit greatly, and continuously as we roll along!^

skibum May 23, 2011 1:13 am

Since we have been moved to miles buzz I'll tell everyone an amazing trip with miles/points one can take with their wife or girlfriend!

Hyatt gold passport points are quite easy to earn miles/points from plus they are always offering amazing deals on www.Hyatt.com Whenever family comes into town, a weekend away for me and the wife or a business trip I try and stay at Hyatt Place or Hyatt summerfield suites. This way I can rack up points with minimal out-of-pocket expenses. Note: weekend stays from Friday to Monday are always less.

Now the way it works is after you generate 5000 points you receive a free night's stay in a standard or for 7,000 points a Grand club. Under the free night selection in gold passport you will find listing around the world you can stay at. The lowest free stay is 5000 points to the highest at 33,000 points for a suite. Check out the 12,000 point stay in Aspen for a studio!

Internationally Grand club is worth the extra 2000 points because each morning you get a paper and breakfast and each afternoon you get drinks, wine, beer and hors d'oeuvres and it is well over the top in quality, service and selections. I stayed at the Hua Hin Hyatt in Thailand in a Regency club king last year and with the Continental breakfast, evening drinks and hors d'oeuvres we only ate snacks by the pool or had a late dinner while out in Hua hin. The hotel and beach were awesome, the trip was great, off to Bali Hyatt this year for 2 weeks.

The amazing trip: r/t to Bali in F. Stay at the Bali Hyatt for 2 weeks in a club King. Airfare and hotel paid for in miles/points! Two weeks at a 5 star hotel on the beach, inclussive of 2 meals...memories for a lifetime!

mooper May 23, 2011 3:00 am


Originally Posted by skibum (Post 16419085)
How do you use your miles and what do you consider the best usage to be?

If hotel points are part of your game, consider using either an SPG Nights and Flights award or a Marriott Travel Package as your starting point if you have/earn points in either of those hotel programs, especially if you can time the redemption with a stackable promotion like the 25% to 75% USAirways hotel point conversion bonus going on right now. I just redeemed 70K SPG points for 87,500 USAirways miles PLUS five nights at a nice Category 4 Starwood resort (~4 cents per point for this redemption, overall), as well as 270K Marriott Rewards Points for 210K USAirways miles PLUS seven nights at a nice Category 5 Marriott Resort (~2.1 CPP for this redemption, overall). Once you have the US miles in hand, you can use them for many Star Alliance flight redemptions, including some of the suggestions bound to show up in this thread. I used 55K miles (I get 5K off as a US-branded credit card holder) for a first class off-peak round trip to London next winter.

skibum May 23, 2011 4:33 am


Originally Posted by mooper (Post 16432926)
If hotel points are part of your game, consider using either an SPG Nights and Flights award or a Marriott Travel Package as your starting point if you have/earn points in either of those hotel programs, especially if you can time the redemption with a stackable promotion like the 25% to 75% USAirways hotel point conversion bonus going on right now. I just redeemed 70K SPG points for 87,500 USAirways miles PLUS five nights at a nice Category 4 Starwood resort (~4 cents per point for this redemption, overall), as well as 270K Marriott Rewards Points for 210K USAirways miles PLUS seven nights at a nice Category 5 Marriott Resort (~2.1 CPP for this redemption, overall). Once you have the US miles in hand, you can use them for many Star Alliance flight redemptions, including some of the suggestions bound to show up in this thread. I used 55K miles (I get 5K off as a US-branded credit card holder) for a first class off-peak round trip to London next winter.

Thank you...I'll look over the plans!

The problem I find with most hotel plans is that I really only want to spend less then 75.00 for a nights stay. With Hyatt I can stay at either Hyatt place or Hyatt summerfield suites for as little as 49.00 to $75.00 and each night I generate 2500 points.

Last year I spent 64.00 average per night on 25 stays for a total cost of around 1720 with taxes. These times were used in business or weekend trips etc. This grossed me a little over 70,000 points included some bonuses. I then booked the Bali Hyatt for 5,000 points per night for a couple weeks! If I bought the room outright it would have cost well over 3,000 with taxes.

I'd love for someone to show me how I could have done better...I'm not saying I couldn't how...I just don't know how!

skibum May 23, 2011 4:53 am


Originally Posted by mooper (Post 16432926)
If hotel points are part of your game, consider using either an SPG Nights and Flights award or a Marriott Travel Package as your starting point if you have/earn points in either of those hotel programs, especially if you can time the redemption with a stackable promotion like the 25% to 75% USAirways hotel point conversion bonus going on right now. I just redeemed 70K SPG points for 87,500 USAirways miles PLUS five nights at a nice Category 4 Starwood resort (~4 cents per point for this redemption, overall), as well as 270K Marriott Rewards Points for 210K USAirways miles PLUS seven nights at a nice Category 5 Marriott Resort (~2.1 CPP for this redemption, overall). Once you have the US miles in hand, you can use them for many Star Alliance flight redemptions, including some of the suggestions bound to show up in this thread. I used 55K miles (I get 5K off as a US-branded credit card holder) for a first class off-peak round trip to London next winter.

In reading over all this...I see why 25-75% is a great deal! Could have turned my 70k in 122500K (if I needed miles) How did you still get the 5 nights? I'm not clear on that part?

mooper May 23, 2011 9:27 am


Originally Posted by skibum (Post 16433147)
The problem I find with most hotel plans is that I really only want to spend less then 75.00 for a nights stay. With Hyatt I can stay at either Hyatt place or Hyatt summerfield suites for as little as 49.00 to $75.00 and each night I generate 2500 points.

Last year I spent 64.00 average per night on 25 stays for a total cost of around 1720 with taxes. These times were used in business or weekend trips etc. This grossed me a little over 70,000 points included some bonuses. I then booked the Bali Hyatt for 5,000 points per night for a couple weeks! If I bought the room outright it would have cost well over 3,000 with taxes.

Marriott and IHG (Priority Club), like Delta and USAirways do in the airline department, offer very generous promos that are often stackable and/or free and can be utilized to get boatloads of cheap points. With Marriott, a lot of them are leveraged by having status (particularly Platinum), but lacking status doesn't mean you can't still take advantage of a lot of them. You can buy gift cards at 10% off and stack 4% cash back on top of that. You can buy those cards with a Chase Marriott card and get another 5 points/$ on the spending. You can book your room online and get another 3% cash back. You can earn 200-500 bonus points as an arrival gift if you're Platinum. Typical Megabonuses will allow another 2,000 points per night if used wisely. You can get 10-15 points/$ as a member (higher amounts the higher your status). In the end, it's usually easy to make $90/night stays for an effective cost of $75/night and get 4,000 points. If you save those points and then utilize it via a redemption like the ones I described earlier, you can make the points worth 2 cents each.


Originally Posted by skibum (Post 16433194)
In reading over all this...I see why 25-75% is a great deal! Could have turned my 70k in 122500K (if I needed miles) How did you still get the 5 nights? I'm not clear on that part?

With SPG, every 20K points redeemed at once is subject to a standard 25% bonus, yielding 25K miles. The US promo, if you qualify at 75%, makes that 43,750. You wouldn't want to redeem 70K... you'd want to do an even increment of 20K (40, 60, 80, etc) if you are doing a straight conversion. The 70K comes into play because it is the number of points needed for a Nights & Flights II package (read the details in the link I gave earlier). Of those 70K SPG points, 40K are converted to 50K, then 87,500 US miles with the promo. The other 30K are good for the other half ("Nights" portion) of the package - five nights at a category 4 property, which can often be a nice resort that typically commands $300+/night.

elkhornne May 23, 2011 9:54 am

It is fun to give someone a First Class Airline flight and throw in free Hotel stays. I've done it a few times and I know the experience will last them a lifetime.


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