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rtang1 May 18, 2011 2:52 pm

Compare mileages, points and cash
 
It is getting more difficult to manage my miles, points now with all these programs. I have Delta, continental/united, AA, Cap1, BA, and soon AE MR and Sapphire points. I know conventional wisdom tells me that I should redeem if the mile can get > $0.02 worth or sometimes $0.01. My usage so far is domestic ticket which cost around $200 to $450 RT and International Asia cost $800 to $1500 RT. However, with so much inventory now, should I reduce my level? eg, should I use 25K BA or AA miles to redeem a domestic ticket cost of only $200, or should I use 50K BA or AA for a ticket cost of $350? I think the best value is in Asia ticket, should I reserve all my miles for those tickets (which can easily get me $0.02 or more per mile) and just use CAP1, etc to pay for domestic tickets? I am confused? I hope there is a table comparing all these miles, points, worth, etc

clacko May 18, 2011 4:35 pm

i think that you have answered your ?, but miles are much more valuable for j & f awards or upgrades in cents/ mile....however, it isn't significant unless you would have bought the j/f ticket.....good luck...

LizzyDragon84 May 18, 2011 4:57 pm

I think the real question is- what do you want to do with those miles? Visit other countries? See family or friends? Try out different airlines and classes? Yes, conventional wisdom dictate that miles have a certain value, but really, the value is based on what your goals and priorities are.

In my case, I'm usually gathering miles for some particular award. Once I reach that amount, I redeem the miles. There's no reason to just sit on a large pile of miles since they don't gain interest and program rules can change at any time.

saacman5033 May 18, 2011 5:19 pm


Originally Posted by rtang1 (Post 16409996)
I hope there is a table comparing all these miles, points, worth, etc

There are a few tables that I have bookmarked just because I have fun looking at how various people value miles:

http://www.plasticiq.com/blog/freque...on-comparison/
http://www.insideflyer.com/articles/...e.php?key=6358
http://www.frugaltravelguy.com/2008/...el-points.html

I don't necessarily put much stock in those values though because none are centered around my travel goals, etc. I would never base a decision to use my miles or not on what other people's preferences are.

Thunderroad May 18, 2011 5:34 pm


Originally Posted by LizzyDragon84 (Post 16410679)
I think the real question is- what do you want to do with those miles? Visit other countries? See family or friends? Try out different airlines and classes? Yes, conventional wisdom dictate that miles have a certain value, but really, the value is based on what your goals and priorities are.

+1. Exactly. The various cent/mile calculations can come in handy, but the bottom line is a personal one. My wife and I redeem them almost exclusively for international J and F vacation flights that we'd never pay $$ for--so we can't pretend that the miles are worth the the tickets' cash value, but love using them that way anyway And on a couple of occasions we've converted AA miles to HH points to be able to stay at fantastic Hilton resorts. But you might well be comfortable in Y or have different mileage balances, which of course is perfectly fine. At some point just cash them in for a trip(s) you like, and don't worry about whether you're squeezing the maximum value out of them.

Ftusa May 19, 2011 2:18 am


Originally Posted by Thunderroad (Post 16410867)
on a couple of occasions we've converted AA miles to HH points

How do you convert Aa miles to Hh points?

MyTravels May 19, 2011 4:54 am


Originally Posted by Ftusa (Post 16412916)
How do you convert Aa miles to Hh points?

It's through points.com

Lost more info in this thread:

Transfer of American AAdvantage Miles to Hilton HHonors Points: The Definitive Thread

MyTravels May 19, 2011 4:59 am


Originally Posted by rtang1 (Post 16409996)
However, with so much inventory now, should I reduce my level?

Miles don't create more value sitting around and typically devalue over time (not that the greenback isn't in the same boat, but the greenback has a bit more flexibility). If/when I have more miles than I have an immediate plan/goal for then I usually am happy to use them for $0.01+, although I've dipped below 1 cent a few times depending on the # of miles I have relative to what I might use anytime in the future.

In summary, this really depends on what's best for your travel & finances, but if you don't have a plan to use miles/points anytime soon and have a sufficient buffer for unplanned trips, then burn vs stockpile when it comes to miles/points. (my 2 cents)

Pulley May 19, 2011 6:29 am


Originally Posted by Thunderroad (Post 16410867)
+1. Exactly. The various cent/mile calculations can come in handy, but the bottom line is a personal one. My wife and I redeem them almost exclusively for international J and F vacation flights that we'd never pay $$ for--so we can't pretend that the miles are worth the the tickets' cash value, but love using them that way anyway And on a couple of occasions we've converted AA miles to HH points to be able to stay at fantastic Hilton resorts. But you might well be comfortable in Y or have different mileage balances, which of course is perfectly fine. At some point just cash them in for a trip(s) you like, and don't worry about whether you're squeezing the maximum value out of them.

+1 - My wife & I only use miles for international J & F flights. So if we spend/buy miles for $3,500 but get an 8 -10 dollar ticket then it's worth it to us. We wouldn't fly long haul economy so it's either pay the best J or F fare we find on the internet or figure out how to get/buy miles.

mooper May 19, 2011 7:12 am


Originally Posted by LizzyDragon84 (Post 16410679)
I think the real question is- what do you want to do with those miles? Visit other countries? See family or friends? Try out different airlines and classes? Yes, conventional wisdom dictate that miles have a certain value, but really, the value is based on what your goals and priorities are.

+1 Precisely. Too few people understand this, and instead try to assign hard values that simply aren't equally applicable to others.

workandski May 19, 2011 9:46 am

My favorite use of miles (other than flying J to Asia) is to give a round trip ticket to a friend or relative who wants to go somewhere (like home to visit family) but is stressed out about the cost. I don't think you can put a dollar value on the ability to help someone out. And, with miles in lots of programs, I can usually find a way to get them where they want to go.

senioreditor May 19, 2011 9:54 am

Well said.............
 

Originally Posted by workandski (Post 16414369)
My favorite use of miles (other than flying J to Asia) is to give a round trip ticket to a friend or relative who wants to go somewhere (like home to visit family) but is stressed out about the cost. I don't think you can put a dollar value on the ability to help someone out. And, with miles in lots of programs, I can usually find a way to get them where they want to go.

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