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Old May 19, 2014, 9:20 pm
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Old Sep 19, 2014, 10:58 am
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Lots of Citi Talk but has ANYONE here ever received a 1099 for Chase Ultimate Rewards redemption as cash or otherwise?
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Old Sep 21, 2014, 2:37 pm
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anyone?
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Old Sep 21, 2014, 3:21 pm
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Originally Posted by hakujin
,,,ANYONE here ever received a 1099 for Chase Ultimate Rewards redemption as cash or otherwise?
Have you earned Ultimate Rewards points other than with a credit card?
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Old Sep 22, 2014, 6:44 pm
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Originally Posted by hakujin
Lots of Citi Talk but has ANYONE here ever received a 1099 for Chase Ultimate Rewards redemption as cash or otherwise?
It would have to be UR's from Banking. I don't have any contact with Chase except CC's. I've cashed out ~ 100K in UR's both for travel and GC's in 2012 and never got anything. I've also done the same with Citi with no 1099's. I beleive if you check back early in this thread the only Citi 1099's were from Banking turned into TYP's and maybe AA miles? mia is very knowledge able and you can trust what he says.

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Old Sep 23, 2014, 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by jjmiller69
the only Citi 1099's were from Banking turned into TYP's and maybe AA miles?
Yep. TYPs originally earned from banking are taxable. TYPs earned from credit cards are not.
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Old Sep 24, 2014, 10:21 am
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Only UR from CC.

Thank you jjmiller69!
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Old Sep 24, 2014, 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by hakujin
Only UR from CC.

Thank you jjmiller69!
You are welcome. You shouldn't have any problem. Enjoy the points I do.
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Old Sep 24, 2014, 3:06 pm
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No bank wants to be the first one to issue a 1099-MISC for cc bonus miles, and the IRS does not appear at all interested in pressing the issue when it comes to first-purchase and minimum-spend cc bonuses.

The tax line separates banking bonuses (checking, CDs) from credit card bonuses.
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Old Oct 11, 2014, 9:28 pm
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Originally Posted by dhuey
No bank wants to be the first one to issue a 1099-MISC for cc bonus miles, and the IRS does not appear at all interested in pressing the issue when it comes to first-purchase and minimum-spend cc bonuses.

The tax line separates banking bonuses (checking, CDs) from credit card bonuses.
Isn't the issue that miles on an bank account are deemed interest (income) hence a 1099. but for a credit card earning, it is really a rebate on the fees that the merchant(and indirectly, you) are paying, so there is no "income" per se. similarly, for fidelity, the miles are on an investment account, not a banking account, so could be seen as a rebate on the fees you will pay them, hence no 1099.

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Old Oct 12, 2014, 9:50 pm
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Originally Posted by IaLTO
Isn't the issue that miles on an bank account are deemed interest (income) hence a 1099. but for a credit card earning, it is really a rebate on the fees that the merchant(and indirectly, you) are paying, so there is no "income" per se. similarly, for fidelity, the miles are on an investment account, not a banking account, so could be seen as a rebate on the fees you will pay them, hence no 1099.

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Here is an old letter ruling (which I realize is not a law) that might be useful in whether your rebate rule analysis is valid for an investment account. I believe it came from the old days in which the AA program actually offered a mutual fund. That frequent flier program once had a lot of code share partners!

My experience with Fidelity is that their fees are indirect and are generally fully tax-deductible, unlike many investment advisors whose direct fees are limited on Schedule A due to the 2 percent of AGI rule, and limited by AMT. So any reduction in the basis of those Fidelity fees as a result of miles having a "value" would yield an unfavorable tax result.

It does not appear that Fidelity has ever issued a 1099 or provided information to investors instructing them that the awarded miles have a specific value that must reduce investment fees or reduce the tax basis of any assets purchased within the Fidelity account. It is not clear if the mutual fund in the letter ruling ever valued the miles in its correspondence with investors.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-wd/9920031.pdf
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Old Oct 13, 2014, 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by IaLTO
Isn't the issue that miles on an bank account are deemed interest (income) hence a 1099. but for a credit card earning, it is really a rebate on the fees that the merchant(and indirectly, you) are paying, so there is no "income" per se. similarly, for fidelity, the miles are on an investment account, not a banking account, so could be seen as a rebate on the fees you will pay them, hence no 1099.

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Yes, I think that's the basic difference between miles earned via bank accounts vs. credit cards: interest on deposited money (taxable) vs. rebate for purchases (not taxable).
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Old Mar 3, 2015, 8:07 pm
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I apologize if this has already been asked, but how about an Alaska Airlines cc? Any 1099s from that?
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Old Mar 4, 2015, 3:44 am
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Originally Posted by EtoileFilante
I apologize if this has already been asked, but how about an Alaska Airlines cc? Any 1099s from that?
I received points in 2014 from Alaska CC and still haven't received a 1099. So the answer is no (knock on wood).
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Old Mar 5, 2015, 8:22 pm
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Originally Posted by TMM1982
I received points in 2014 from Alaska CC and still haven't received a 1099. So the answer is no (knock on wood).
Great, thanks, TMM1982!
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