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lin821 Jul 22, 2010 8:56 am


Originally Posted by Evan! (Post 14345185)
What's the lesson that flyerd learned?... post about selling miles and get your FT account suspended? I've looked through the threads referenced and I did not see anything indicating that flyerd went to jail, had his accounts closed, lost miles through confiscation by an airline, or any other "lesson" (other than FT suspension).

Mind you I am not advocating trying to scam the system or break any airline rules. I really would like to know what makes flyerd a "once-self-proclaimed-pro-miles-seller" and not just a pro miles seller! I was expecting to read a story reminiscent of the Scared Straight documentary of the 70s where flyerd now lectures would-be miles sellers on the dark path that led him to horrible consequences. I don't see it. Please point me to the posts about these consequences he suffered.

First things first. Based on my public exchange/posts with him, I don't know what lesson, if any, flyerd had learned. To be frankly honest with you, I don't care if he learned any lesson at all. If you read how many roll-eyes comments toward him from our established fellow FTers, you'll know how welcome he'd been on FT. :p

I also doubt you would be able to see any "confession" from said FTer what lead him from selling tons of miles to be in desperate need of buying 140,000 AA miles within 24 hours. Maybe he had been so successful and decided to become a mile-broker himself. Maybe he had taken airlines to court, as he seems to know what he's talking about. I am not a fortune-teller and simply don't know.

What I do know from his posts is how little respect he had with TOS (for both FFPs and FT). I am actually not surprised to find out just today that he had been suspended (on FT. btw, it has nothing to do with his talking about selling miles, if I read the mod's note correctly). I can only assume it might be just a matter of time before the airlines track him down and take whichever action toward his FFP accounts.

From reading our AA, CO, Delta and UA Forum/s over the years, I know there are FTers hunted down by airline legal/anti-fraud department for selling miles (I am too lazy to dig up those threads right now). Not everyone who gets caught red handed will come forward and "publicize" their (wrong)doing on Internet bulletin boards but there are enough incident reports on FT that all FTers, let it be newbie or not, can learn a lesson or two from.

Maybe I was too subtle, but I was expecting our savvy FTers would be able to put together the (the-road-you-should-never-travel) puzzle. I was mainly trying to point out the (deep) trouble one could get himself into when selling miles via all those legit-or-not websites. It will be much more challenging to fly under the radar if you are selling (or buying) in a large scale.

I've learned enough from our FT University and know how unwise it is to sell your miles, let alone so righteously.

crazyjony Oct 24, 2010 11:25 pm

Flyhub is not a scam
 
That's total BS, that company's not a scam. I've been using them to buy First class tickets to Asia for under $3000. My last purchase was two months ago and everything went well. I'll never pay full price for a ticket again, at least not as long as these guys are in business.

Keyser Oct 24, 2010 11:42 pm


Originally Posted by crazyjony (Post 15007026)
That's total BS, that company's not a scam. I've been using them to buy First class tickets to Asia for under $3000. My last purchase was two months ago and everything went well. I'll never pay full price for a ticket again, at least not as long as these guys are in business.

welcome to ft crazyjony....

sorry but i have to disagree with you....there is nothing that seems right about these guys....

greenair Oct 25, 2010 12:08 am

why does it say my posts are hidden until moderator
 
flyertalk won't let me post without moderator aproval.

tom911 Oct 25, 2010 12:14 am

You must be including a link to a web site. First time posters can't do that to avoid spammers.

Welcome to FlyerTalk :)

justinc848 Oct 25, 2010 5:16 am


Originally Posted by crazyjony (Post 15007026)
That's total BS, that company's not a scam. I've been using them to buy First class tickets to Asia for under $3000. My last purchase was two months ago and everything went well. I'll never pay full price for a ticket again, at least not as long as these guys are in business.

Awfully weird that your first post upon joining was to give a testimonial in a thread that hadn't seen action in 3 months. ;)

I take it the PD did nothing for the OP which is why he's never updated the thread..

ekys Oct 25, 2010 9:14 am

From what I can tell of how flyhub run their business, signing up accounts to sites criticizing the the company and pretending to be happy customers is part of their M.O.

Hardly the behavior of a reputable company :rolleyes:

The ripoff report site is hilarious and the reply so blatantly conceived and disingenuous that it's hard not to smirk. They even get the customers name wrong (Doyle for Drew????) in their response.

fandu Oct 25, 2010 10:39 am

Received the money
 
I am the OP and thought I would update this thread. I received the money end of July thanks to a FT'er who mentioned about this post to Danielle from flyhub and then only they started to contact me back. Below are the details which I meant to post in July itself but forgot. This is a copy-paste of what I wrote back then.

"I finally got in touch with Danielle from Flyhub and looks like there had been some misunderstanding. I told them I would come in if need be to pick up the money since my bank accounts are online only or out of state branches. Someone read it as 'Don’t have a bank account' and triggered a fraud alert. I got my money now that things have been cleared."

One thing that comes to my mind though that I asked again for the money in cash since they again delayed the payment by a week after things were settled and I was told they don't do cash since its a business. Apparently they are fine depositing cash directly into my checking account (which I was told would be a check deposit).

Keyser Oct 25, 2010 1:59 pm


Originally Posted by justinc848 (Post 15007666)
Awfully weird that your first post upon joining was to give a testimonial in a thread that hadn't seen action in 3 months. ;)

i was thinking the exact same thing....just didn't want to be the first to say it....:D

crazyjony Oct 26, 2010 6:04 am


Originally Posted by saad (Post 15007068)
welcome to ft crazyjony....

sorry but i have to disagree with you....there is nothing that seems right about these guys....

Look friend its not possible that every consumer will suffer the same situation that you had suffer. I guess u must have been cheated by some unauthorized person, so please take care in future. I am doing business with flyhub since from past two years. Seriously I will not found any kind of problem.Yes I know there is some technical issues but it doesn't mean that we consumers have to face. Over all I don't have any kind of complain with flyhub.

crazyjony Oct 26, 2010 6:21 am


Originally Posted by justinc848 (Post 15007666)
Awfully weird that your first post upon joining was to give a testimonial in a thread that hadn't seen action in 3 months. ;)

I take it the PD did nothing for the OP which is why he's never updated the thread..

Hey friend...I think you misunderstood my post, well that was not a promotional post ( if u thought it was), this was my experience with fly hub, and regarding the old post,since I came across this post some other may also come in future, hence I think my writing a mail was just to remove a misconception.

P.S: Don't take this post as an image builder.....its my experience with fly hub,and I am just sharing my experience with you as the other people done. if u want to believe , believe if not....its your wish. I cant help.....to other people ...I believe that my post is justified.:)

Keyser Oct 26, 2010 9:25 am


Originally Posted by crazyjony (Post 15014848)
Look friend its not possible that every consumer will suffer the same situation that you had suffer. I guess u must have been cheated by some unauthorized person, so please take care in future. I am doing business with flyhub since from past two years. Seriously I will not found any kind of problem.Yes I know there is some technical issues but it doesn't mean that we consumers have to face. Over all I don't have any kind of complain with flyhub.

i never suffered any 'situation'....simply because i have never done something like this nor will i do so anytime in the future....i'm glad you have never had any issue with flyhub but its not something most of the fters would get into....

ffI Oct 27, 2010 6:08 pm


Originally Posted by crazyjony (Post 15007026)
That's total BS, that company's not a scam. I've been using them to buy First class tickets to Asia for under $3000. My last purchase was two months ago and everything went well. I'll never pay full price for a ticket again, at least not as long as these guys are in business.

Why buy from flyhub when you can buy reputably and directly from US for less? Yes they did lock 2 accounts in my family but when I was able to provide all the documentation needed, my accounts were unlocked and I have had no further trouble with them since.
You can buy and gift 200k from US for 2950$. You can buy 20k SPG points for 560$ = 37.5k US during promos.
I can buy 2 F to Asia for about 250k miles = 3500$, without using flyhub!


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