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lalala Jul 14, 2010 12:58 pm

I thought you couldn't stack the AA and BWB promos :(

judolphin Jul 14, 2010 2:06 pm


Originally Posted by lalala (Post 14299794)
I thought you couldn't stack the AA and BWB promos :(

I didn't try to stack... it just happened to be that they did stack.


Originally Posted by pinniped (Post 14299767)
No question the chains can lose money on an FT'er who pays close attention and maximizes his/her participation in the promotion.

But I think we're the exception rather than the norm. They probably get a lot of business travelers who are comped mid-level status in all the chains and now have a little incentive to try an exciting new <insert chain here> instead of their boring old <insert chain here>. Who knows: maybe both Marriott and Hyatt - the two most aggressive this summer - will end up with a net positive conversion of HHonors and Starwood guests. Those guests aren't scouring for $50 Courtyards - they're just swapping their $150 Hilton for a $150 Marriott.

In other words, I think the promotions can be successful in the market of regular business travelers.

Agreed. I'm just hoping Hyatt & Marriott don't ban me from future promos! :)

skywalkerLAX Jul 14, 2010 2:13 pm

I still fail to see where the 'abuse' part is !? :confused:

SanDiego1K Jul 14, 2010 2:26 pm


Originally Posted by lalala (Post 14299794)
I thought you couldn't stack the AA and BWB promos :(

They were stackable. I earned BWBs on any and all stays I converted to miles, whether AA or UA.

ScottC Jul 14, 2010 2:30 pm

This isn't abuse. This is the very foundation this board was founded on.

jim5518 Jul 14, 2010 2:58 pm

I can`t see any abuse, if you follow the rules of the promo.

Jaimito Cartero Jul 14, 2010 6:05 pm


Originally Posted by HIDDY (Post 14297986)
Well done I say for maximising the opportunity put your way. ^

USA based members certainly have a big advantage over others around the world especially on Hyatt hotel prices.

Find a friend in the US, and you can get some discount certs. I'll be headed down your way in September, so if you want some, send me a PM.

Jaimito Cartero Jul 14, 2010 6:10 pm


Originally Posted by skywalkerLAX (Post 14300297)
I still fail to see where the 'abuse' part is !? :confused:

I think the abuse part was more a tongue in cheek type comment.

MDtR-Chicago Jul 14, 2010 6:21 pm


Originally Posted by pinniped (Post 14299767)
Who knows: maybe both Marriott and Hyatt - the two most aggressive this summer - will end up with a net positive conversion of HHonors and Starwood guests. Those guests aren't scouring for $50 Courtyards - they're just swapping their $150 Hilton for a $150 Marriott.

I just traded two nights of ~$120 Hilton for two nights of ~$120 Marriott. And it worked. It was better than I expected and an experience I'd like to repeat. It's unlikely I'll be in another Hilton for a long time thanks to the Marriott DL promo...

yuel Jul 14, 2010 6:32 pm


Originally Posted by judolphin (Post 14295925)
I think these two chains have lost money on us this summer.

Marriott might have lost money on us but not overall.
2nd qtr profit risis
"Revenue climbed 8 percent to $2.77 billion, thanks to a boost in room rates and fees."

judolphin Jul 14, 2010 6:34 pm


Originally Posted by skywalkerLAX (Post 14300297)
I still fail to see where the 'abuse' part is !? :confused:


Originally Posted by ScottC (Post 14300413)
This isn't abuse. This is the very foundation this board was founded on.


Originally Posted by jim5518 (Post 14300583)
I can`t see any abuse, if you follow the rules of the promo.

See below... he is correct :)


Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero (Post 14301620)
I think the abuse part was more a tongue in cheek type comment.


jim5518 Jul 14, 2010 8:17 pm


Originally Posted by judolphin (Post 14301745)
See below... he is correct :)

My mistake for being in a hurry and not reading well.

Boraxo Jul 15, 2010 10:37 am

Yes, it is amusing how they are going crazy on the SPG board about the wonderful 4k points or 25% off awards promo. Woo hoo!

pinniped Jul 15, 2010 12:03 pm


Originally Posted by Boraxo (Post 14305636)
Yes, it is amusing how they are going crazy on the SPG board about the wonderful 4k points or 25% off awards promo. Woo hoo!

Whoa, 25% off awards?

That could be a big fat juicy promotion, depending on the caveats/limitations.

A few years ago I received a one-shot 50% off SPG award. That basically put $700-ish worth of points back in my pocket. Simple Cat 4 five-nighter. I'm sure others raked even bigger savings.

UPDATE, AFTER VIEWING THE SPG BOARD:

- The limitation on the 25% off offer is Cat 5, five nights, not applicable to N&F. In other words, a max 12,000 point bonus. Use by 7/31/11.
- The good news is that apparently this promotion is stackable with Starwood's usual quarterly promos.

jcmitchell21 Jul 16, 2010 7:49 am

How do you do the reservation account swap nightly? Doyu make the entire reservation under one name, and just checkout/in, switching the rewards account each time? Do I need to make a bunch of different reservations in alternating accounts/days?

As said in a previous post, I am staying sun-thurs nights for the next 3 weeks in Raleigh and am trying to maximize AA miles. Next week I am alternating b/w Hampton and Wingate. Getting HH Surpass intro promo of 2500 bonus HH per stay and doing this promo from wingate.

The week of the 25th, I have yet to make reservations, but I am probably gonna stay entirely at wingate to max out the promo. There is also a Hyatt and Comfort Suites in the vicinity. I would like to stay at the Hyatt to use this promo, but the rooms are a little pricey for my hotel budget. Room budget is $90 max before tax which wingate and hampton meet. Would the Hyatt Costco certs still make the Hyatt promo valid? They would bring the cost to within reason. Best suggestions?


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