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MUTiger86 Apr 4, 2010 12:11 pm

Beginner Questions
 
Hello, all. I'm a former frequent business traveller who is getting back out on the road. Back when I used to travel frequently, I thought I was pretty smart about maximizing my miles and points, but after looking at this site, I'm not so sure. Given that, I'm wondering if I could get some basic advice for frequent travellers.

Here are my questions:
  1. Should I concentrate on one airline no matter what my status is or switch to another airline after I hit platinum (or whatever)? I always concentrated on one airline because of the bonus miles I was earning. Is this a bad idea?
  2. Same as the above, but for hotels. I prefer Starwood, but should I branch out after I hit platinum or concentrate?
  3. Are there any basic strategies to get miles/status faster? I have heard of people checking in and out of hotels to get more stays. Are there any other sorts of suggestions like that one that a new frequent traveller should know?
  4. I had a bunch of Hilton points expire because I didn't stay at a Hilton enough. Is there any chance of getting those reinstated, especially if I tell them I'll concentrate my stays in their hotels?
Any advice you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
Bill

Efrem Apr 4, 2010 2:32 pm

Welcome to FT!

Originally Posted by MUTiger86 (Post 13707493)
1. Should I concentrate on one airline no matter what my status is or switch to another airline after I hit platinum (or whatever)

I'd concentrate on one unless you expect to fly enough to have at least mid-level status in two different alliances. Even then, many people feel that top-level status with one is better than mid-level with two. I'd say it depends on where you're based (your public profile doesn't say) and what your travel patterns are. For most people, the benefits of using status once you've earned it swing the deal.


Originally Posted by MUTiger86 (Post 13707493)
Same as the above, but for hotels. I prefer Starwood, but should I branch out after I hit platinum or concentrate?

Again, depends on where you tend to stay, what there is there, and what you want. If you stay enough for top-tier status in one chain, you might want to look at the hotel forums here. You might prefer a different one after you take top-tier benefits into account.


Originally Posted by MUTiger86 (Post 13707493)
Are there any basic strategies to get miles/status faster? I have heard of people checking in and out of hotels to get more stays. Are there any other sorts of suggestions like that one that a new frequent traveller should know?

I take indirect routings on flights. Regular BOS-LHR travel, which I did for a while, builds up miles much faster if you change planes in Chicago - and at the same fare in most cases. I've never switched hotels to get stay credits, but that's because I've never been close enough to top-tier in a hotel chain to make it worthwhile.


Originally Posted by MUTiger86 (Post 13707493)
I had a bunch of Hilton points expire because I didn't stay at a Hilton enough. Is there any chance of getting those reinstated, especially if I tell them I'll concentrate my stays in their hotels?

I don't think your chances are good, but if you don't ask, they're zero.

MtStream Apr 4, 2010 7:08 pm

Why obtain it on one airline then switch and not take advantage of it? The only value I could see is if your location/travel forces you to use multiple airlines. The reason they are called "loyalty" programs is the intention of rewarding loyalty.

If you can get the vast majority of travel done on one airline I would stay with it to maximize the benifit. However, you will find most of the responses you are about to recieve will have one thing in common "it depends on what you want/your situation"

Kohoutek Apr 4, 2010 7:28 pm

Hard to believe, may I say so. Especially #4. <shakes head> What a waste.

MUTiger86 Apr 4, 2010 9:39 pm


Originally Posted by Kohoutek (Post 13709362)
Hard to believe, may I say so. Especially #4. <shakes head> What a waste.

Regarding letting those Hilton points expire, that was a shame. However, I don't know what else is hard to believe. Could you elaborate?

Thanks,
Bill

clacko Apr 5, 2010 3:07 am

MUT86....where are flying from?.....where do you think you will go?.....how many times/calendar year?.....coach or 1st?...

if your travels can be mostly on 1 carrier, will you be able to reach top tier?...if so, that would be the way to go.....if 2 carriers are convenient for you, then perhaps trying for status on both would make sense....

you should consider things like challenges for status, status matches, upgrades, and premium seating.....

so, if you would post your best guess re my ?'s, you will probably get some specific suggestions.....good luck...

MUTiger86 Apr 5, 2010 11:42 am

Well, I am flying out of Seattle to various locations in the US primarily. I guess that Alaska will generally get me where I'm going, so it seems like I should book with them and only them. I do like the idea of using 1 stop flights when possible to get extra segments; I would not have done that normally.

Hotels might be a bit different, but I think the general advice is to go with your primary program as much as possible.

Thanks all,
Bill

gobluetwo Apr 5, 2010 12:15 pm

The other consideration, of course, is that you need to think about how you want to spend the miles you earn. It looks like Alaska Airlines has enough partners to get you anywhere globally, so hopefully that's not a big concern. Not sure what kind of benefits you can enjoy on those partner airlines as an MVP, though. A consideration if your routings will require you to fly with other airlines.

NICEDUDE66 Apr 5, 2010 3:08 pm

No Mention of Credit Cards
 
Wait let me get this straight, you can get miles by actually flying? Humm, that is a strange way to do it indeed.

OK look on FT for the best CC offers. DO NOT just check out the airline's website, as they rarely have the biggest bonus offers. While I don't know which airline you would prefer, American Airlines rarely has it's $30K bonus offer on its own website. Jump on super rare offers, like the British Airways $100K offer. Sorry that one is no longer available. While the hayday of churning is sadly over, sign up for different products, i.e. United's three cards. Just do not do it all at once, and maybe have a few months in between. Such as 3-6 months.

Also sign up for the personal and then the business Starwood AmEx. With normal spending and $K/month travelers check, I doubled up with their 15K bonus with $15K spending in the first six months. That got me 5 free nights in Vienna during my honeymoon, worth about $1K.

Good luck with your addictive habit. :)

MUTiger86 Apr 5, 2010 9:35 pm

Thanks for the additional info. I already have the Alaska Airlines Visa. In addition, I'm required to put all business purchases on the corporate Amex, but I have signed up for Membership Rewards on that puppy.

Bill

giggy Apr 6, 2010 12:55 am


Originally Posted by MUTiger86 (Post 13713010)
Well, I am flying out of Seattle to various locations in the US primarily. I guess that Alaska will generally get me where I'm going, so it seems like I should book with them and only them. I do like the idea of using 1 stop flights when possible to get extra segments; I would not have done that normally.

Hotels might be a bit different, but I think the general advice is to go with your primary program as much as possible.

Thanks all,
Bill

I live in Seattle and AA works real well for me. Great perks. You might give their program a look.

Keyser Apr 6, 2010 3:48 am

for me personally, it makes sense to have top status with 2 airlines & 2 hotel programs....

there are times when its more convenient for me to fly one airline (due to price or timings) & the second one another time....same with hotels....in india & asia i have a great choice of spg properties but in the us & the uk there is a better choice of hilton properties....

i travel enough to make this happen every year so have no problems....

MUTiger86 Apr 9, 2010 3:08 pm

By the way, if anyone is interested, I talked to Hilton yesterday and they reinstated half my points immediately, and told me they will reinstate the other half if I have 5 stays in their hotels this year. That should not be a problem, so welcome back 226,000 Hilton points!

MtStream Apr 9, 2010 10:56 pm


Originally Posted by MUTiger86 (Post 13742023)
By the way, if anyone is interested, I talked to Hilton yesterday and they reinstated half my points immediately, and told me they will reinstate the other half if I have 5 stays in their hotels this year. That should not be a problem, so welcome back 226,000 Hilton points!

Woot! Well done.

Keyser Apr 12, 2010 8:55 am


Originally Posted by MUTiger86 (Post 13742023)
By the way, if anyone is interested, I talked to Hilton yesterday and they reinstated half my points immediately, and told me they will reinstate the other half if I have 5 stays in their hotels this year. That should not be a problem, so welcome back 226,000 Hilton points!

very nicely done....you are one of the very few people to get all your points back....


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