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lkar Sep 23, 2010 8:26 am


Originally Posted by skynerd (Post 14760283)
payusatax.com with Visa:
less than $15k/year spent: 1.95% fee / (1.5 mile/$) = 1.3 cent/mile
more than $15k/year spent: 1.95% fee / (2.0 mile/$) = 0.975 cent/mile

FWIW, Payusatax appears to have stopped taking Visa for quarterly estimated tax payments, although they still take it for some other payments.

crhptic Dec 18, 2010 7:41 pm


Originally Posted by daveland (Post 14627781)
I'm just baffled. I can't enter the card number unless I choose credit, debit, or bill me later. I choose debit, type in my debit card number, click Continue, and the fee is over a hundred dollars. The Citi debit card earns Thank You points, BTW.

Per the T&C on payusatax.com, only Visa debit cards have the flat fee of $3.89. Mastercard debit cards are charged at the same rate as credit cards.

This also wipes out the opportunity to repeat DCBob's Delta Skymiles earning since Suntrust just switched all of their debit cards, including the Delta one, from Visa to Mastercard. Bummer.

skynerd Dec 19, 2010 12:59 am


Originally Posted by crhptic (Post 15478412)
Per the T&C on payusatax.com, only Visa debit cards have the flat fee of $3.89. Mastercard debit cards are charged at the same rate as credit cards.

This also wipes out the opportunity to repeat DCBob's Delta Skymiles earning since Suntrust just switched all of their debit cards, including the Delta one, from Visa to Mastercard. Bummer.

I confirm that dry runs today at all three debit card tax payment services (payusatax, pay1040 and officialpayments) generated high fees (~2%) for my SunTrust Delta personal debit MasterCard and low fees (~$4) for my Chase non-preferred (0.5 mile/$) personal United Debit Visa. I have not tried a tax payment with the United debit Visa, but I did try a tax payment with my Chase non-preferred personal Continental Debit MasterCard some time ago and did not receive miles, so I wouldn't bet on the Untied debit Visa getting miles either.

skynerd Jan 14, 2011 10:14 am

Chase United debit card might earn miles via valuetaxpayment.com
 
A few days ago, I made an estimated tax payment with my Chase United non-preferred personal Visa debit card by valuetaxpayment.com (payusatax's new sister site that accepts Visa and AmEx). I was charged only the $3.89 flat debit card fee. This morning, it appears that Chase has coded the transaction as earning miles (unlike a similar test transaction with my Chase Continetnal non-preferred personal MasterCard debit card).

I believe the deadline for tax year 2010 estimated tax payments is tomorrow, Saturday, January 15 Monday, January 18. (Thanks for the correction, TAHKUCT.)

TAHKUCT Jan 14, 2011 10:48 am


Originally Posted by skynerd (Post 15657787)

I believe the deadline for tax year 2010 estimated tax payments is tomorrow, Saturday, January 15.

January 18th, 2011 is the deadline this year.

Ferdinand Magellan Jan 18, 2011 9:46 pm

Can't Get the Lower Debit Card Convenience Fee
 
I went to the payusatax.com website, as well as the other RBS website, as well as the link2gov and officialpayments.com websites. Each time that I put in my Suntrust MC debit card for payment, I was quoted the convenience fee for a credit card, not a debit card. When the option was there (for instance, with officialpayments.com), I specifically checked off debit card, not credit card. I got the credit card convenience fee quote anyway. Can anyone explain this?

skynerd Jan 19, 2011 1:57 am


Originally Posted by Ferdinand Magellan (Post 15687169)
I went to the payusatax.com website, as well as the other RBS website, as well as the link2gov and officialpayments.com websites. Each time that I put in my Suntrust MC debit card for payment, I was quoted the convenience fee for a credit card, not a debit card. When the option was there (for instance, with officialpayments.com), I specifically checked off debit card, not credit card. I got the credit card convenience fee quote anyway. Can anyone explain this?

I cannot explain, but if it helps reassure you that you have not lost your sanity, I can tell you that your results confirm ones I mentioned at the bottom of this heavily edited post last week: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/15594232-post23.html , where one MasterCard debit card was offered the debit rates and one was not.

skynerd Jan 25, 2011 4:43 pm


Originally Posted by skynerd (Post 15657787)
[...] I made an estimated tax payment with my Chase United non-preferred personal Visa debit card by valuetaxpayment.com (payusatax's new sister site that accepts Visa and AmEx). I was charged only the $3.89 flat debit card fee. This morning, it appears that Chase has coded the transaction as earning miles (unlike a similar test transaction with my Chase Continetnal non-preferred personal MasterCard debit card).

This card may no longer be available after Feb. 8th, but existing cards will continue working. See my longer message at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/15734335-post57.html .

kgkg Jan 10, 2012 11:27 am

Does anyone know whether and in which format I can get a confirmation from IRS after paying my 2011 estimate tax through payUSAtax.com? Thanks!

DCBob Jan 11, 2012 7:26 am


Originally Posted by kgkg (Post 17786541)
Does anyone know whether and in which format I can get a confirmation from IRS after paying my 2011 estimate tax through payUSAtax.com? Thanks!

The IRS doesn't provide confirmations of payments. You need to print out the online confirmation page from payUSAtax.com if you want a confirmation.

If you want an account transcript, the IRS will send one to you if you complete the request online at http://www.irs.gov/individuals/artic...232168,00.html. That shows all activity on your account for a specific tax year.

mia Jan 11, 2012 9:09 am

This topic is also discussed in this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...-taxes-cc.html

skynerd Jan 13, 2012 10:48 pm

payusatax now accepts Visa credit cards for 1.89%
 
I mentioned this in another thread, but, since this thread is specific to payusatax.com, I guess it is worth repeating. payusatax.com has started accepting Visa credit cards for the same 1.89% fee as MasterCard and Discover. Previously, Visa was processed on payusatax's sister site, valuetaxpayment, for 2.29%. I am not sure exactly when the change occurred.

jonny1 Feb 3, 2012 4:19 am

looks like payusatax is to pay FEDERAL TAX only and not state tax?

I don't see anywhere where it says STATE TAX.
Please confirm

vulgarboatman Feb 3, 2012 7:45 am

That is going to vary by state.

JATR4 Feb 3, 2012 7:59 am

Used a Citi 5% cash back mastercard to pay $800 (1.89% charge) and made $25 on the deal.

Wasn't sure how the payment would post but it just posted as a payment and not a cash advance.

DCBob Feb 7, 2012 8:10 pm


Originally Posted by crhptic (Post 15478412)
Per the T&C on payusatax.com, only Visa debit cards have the flat fee of $3.89. Mastercard debit cards are charged at the same rate as credit cards.

This also wipes out the opportunity to repeat DCBob's Delta Skymiles earning since Suntrust just switched all of their debit cards, including the Delta one, from Visa to Mastercard. Bummer.

Bummer no longer! Their MasterCard debit card policy has changed. I tested my Delta Skymiles Debit MasterCard on payusatax.com today using a hypothetical $10,000 Federal tax payment. The fee that was added to my payment was a flat $3.89! So I will definitely be using that debit card to pay my balance due for 2011.

DCBob Feb 7, 2012 8:16 pm


Originally Posted by jonny1 (Post 17943697)
looks like payusatax is to pay FEDERAL TAX only and not state tax?

I don't see anywhere where it says STATE TAX.
Please confirm

Click on "Other Services" at the top of the page, then on "State Tax Payments." You can only pay taxes to Alabama, New York, and Kansas. Illinois is "coming soon."

yoyo Feb 8, 2012 8:59 am

Anyone know when we will be able to pay 2012 estimate tax?

DCBob Feb 14, 2012 5:11 am


Originally Posted by yoyo (Post 17975573)
Anyone know when we will be able to pay 2012 estimate tax?

Hopefully, it will be before April 17, 2012. The only reason to pay before April 17 is if you need the FF miles right away.

gv111 Feb 14, 2012 6:05 am


Originally Posted by yoyo (Post 17975573)
Anyone know when we will be able to pay 2012 estimate tax?

March 1 2012

skynerd Mar 1, 2012 11:23 pm

payusatax debit mastercard loophole closed?
 

Originally Posted by DCBob (Post 17972607)
Bummer no longer! Their MasterCard debit card policy has changed. I tested my Delta Skymiles Debit MasterCard on payusatax.com today using a hypothetical $10,000 Federal tax payment. The fee that was added to my payment was a flat $3.89! So I will definitely be using that debit card to pay my balance due for 2011.

I just tried a dry run with a SunTrust Business Delta Skymiles debit card and payusatax.com would not accept it as either an "ATM" or "Debit", but would accept it as a "credit card" with the usual credit card processing fee. I got similar results at officialpayments and pay1040. Valuetaxpayment, payusatax's sister site, did not accept the card at all, which makes sense, since it currently only accepts American Express for credit card payments.

DCBob Apr 12, 2012 7:52 pm


Originally Posted by skynerd (Post 18115733)
I just tried a dry run with a SunTrust Business Delta Skymiles debit card and payusatax.com would not accept it as either an "ATM" or "Debit", but would accept it as a "credit card" with the usual credit card processing fee. I got similar results at officialpayments and pay1040. Valuetaxpayment, payusatax's sister site, did not accept the card at all, which makes sense, since it currently only accepts American Express for credit card payments.

Today, I just made a $15K payment on payusatax.com using my SunTrust Personal Delta SkyMiles MasterCard debit card (under MasterCard debit card) and the fee charged was a flat $3.49. I don't know why it didn't work for you, but it may be because you used a business debit card.

skynerd Apr 12, 2012 8:29 pm


Originally Posted by DCBob (Post 18383486)
Today, I just made a $15K payment on payusatax.com using my SunTrust Personal Delta SkyMiles MasterCard debit card (under MasterCard debit card) and the fee charged was a flat $3.49. I don't know why it didn't work for you, but it may be because you used a business debit card.

Right you are! I confirm that a dry run a few minutes ago with a Suntrust business debit MasterCard number took me to a message telling me it was ineligible for debit card processing, but changing the card number to a Suntrust personal debit MasterCard took me to a dialog computing a charge of just $3.49 on a proposed $10k payment. Both of these experiments were done with invalid card numbers, reducing the chance that it is a matter of one card having a PIN associated with it and the other not. The first six digits of each card number, the "bank identification number", was:

Personal: 5536 94xx xxxx xxxx
Business: 5196 69xx xxxx xxxx

Thanks for catching this, DCBob! Needless to say, I'm sure many readers will be interested to learn whether you get miles for this as you have in the past.

skynerd Apr 12, 2012 8:36 pm


Originally Posted by skynerd (Post 18383655)
Both of these experiments were done with card numbers [...].

Oops. That should have read, "Both of these experiments were done with INVALID card numbers."

Unfortunately, the flyertalk web site seems to have developed a bug in the past week or so where it treats me as being logged out all the time, preventing me from editing a previous posting (but it allows me post, if I reenter my user name password after submitting the posting). So, I apologize for making such a simple correction in the form of a new message. (I'm able to edit my posts agiain as of April 15, 2012.)

DCBob May 8, 2012 5:30 am


Originally Posted by skynerd (Post 18383655)
Thanks for catching this, DCBob! Needless to say, I'm sure many readers will be interested to learn whether you get miles for this as you have in the past.

Yes, I did! They posted yesterday ($20 K payment):

07 May 2012 SunTrust SkyMiles World Card - Purchases
Activity Date : 04 May 2012 20007

akp May 8, 2012 3:46 pm

Holy Smokes!
 
Good find, DCBob!

I'm bitter that I just paid estimated taxes. Hopefully this still works in June. Unforunately, that next payment will be here before I know it.

Anita

mia Jan 15, 2013 8:21 am

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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...cc-2013-a.html


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