Enhancement: No more op-ups from cheaper fare buckets
Jun 3, 2011, 9:42 am
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Enhancement: No more op-ups from cheaper fare buckets
LH seem to be playing around with their grading list algorithm.
(Thanks SMK77 for sharing!)
Up to now pax were graded into a higher COS based on status in case of oversale situations. (HON>SEN>FTL>*G)
This will now be changed so that pax with fare buckets V and below will no longer be on the grading list, regardless of status (HON,SEN,FTL)!.
That means that any status (e.g. *G,FTL) in Q class will be ahead of a HON in V class ...
So if you want to score an opup in the upcoming summer season (and onwards) better book Q and above !
Another nice little enhancement for status pax in economy class.
Alles für diesen Moment.
(Thanks SMK77 for sharing!)
Up to now pax were graded into a higher COS based on status in case of oversale situations. (HON>SEN>FTL>*G)
This will now be changed so that pax with fare buckets V and below will no longer be on the grading list, regardless of status (HON,SEN,FTL)!.
That means that any status (e.g. *G,FTL) in Q class will be ahead of a HON in V class ...
So if you want to score an opup in the upcoming summer season (and onwards) better book Q and above !
Another nice little enhancement for status pax in economy class.
Alles für diesen Moment.
Jun 3, 2011, 9:52 am
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Just ridiculous and short sighted IMO.
With only one confirmed longhaul upgrade every two years many SENs only stuck around due to the occasional op-up.
While LH seems to heading in a good direction generally, M&M and status benefits are becoming more and more mediocre (escept for HON status which is still pretty nice).
With only one confirmed longhaul upgrade every two years many SENs only stuck around due to the occasional op-up.
While LH seems to heading in a good direction generally, M&M and status benefits are becoming more and more mediocre (escept for HON status which is still pretty nice).
Jun 3, 2011, 12:16 pm
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How to select fare class
This is somewhat upsetting. I don't like the idea of a Star Alliance Gold or FTL passenger on a Q fare being upgraded instead of a SEN or a HON on a V fare.
By the way, is there a way to book Q (H, M) instead of V on LH.com when V is what they sell by default as "Economy Basic Plus"? Or do you have to call / use a TA to do something like that?
Jun 3, 2011, 12:25 pm
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btw: LH seems to have decided against rebooking everyone into the new fare buckets once these are aligned with UA/CO/BD/OS/LX. To big a job it seems.
Note to everyone currently on K class tickets: Make sure to try to claim miles as per the old mileage table as this fare bucket will lose out.
Note to everyone currently on K class tickets: Make sure to try to claim miles as per the old mileage table as this fare bucket will lose out.
Jun 3, 2011, 1:46 pm
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LH playing the old frog boiling technique
Rambuster you're turning out to be the dark knight of apocalypse of the M&M forum. Every time you start a thread it seems M&M has been devalued beyond repair. Use your powers to make M&M stop
Lufty is using the frog boiling technique. One enhancement at the time. Like clockwork.
E-vouchers expiring
New award chart
Now op ups gone for cheap Y.
and not to forget, M&M handing out SEN to FB Golds like candy, after FB handed it out like there is no tomorrow.
All lovely to continue the liberation.
GBM
Lufty is using the frog boiling technique. One enhancement at the time. Like clockwork.
E-vouchers expiring
New award chart
Now op ups gone for cheap Y.
and not to forget, M&M handing out SEN to FB Golds like candy, after FB handed it out like there is no tomorrow.
All lovely to continue the liberation.
GBM
Jun 3, 2011, 2:14 pm
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Jun 3, 2011, 4:18 pm
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Im puzzled.. with every other enhancement, there was some kind of direct benefit to LH that they would gladly make travelers unhappy for. However, here, I fail to see the upside. If Opups need to happen, they will. And it is highly questionable if someone with a higher fare class is more likely to return for the off chance of an op-up. Have they resorted to thinking up stuff just to spite those pesky status pax?
Jun 3, 2011, 4:32 pm
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Im puzzled.. with every other enhancement, there was some kind of direct benefit to LH that they would gladly make travelers unhappy for. However, here, I fail to see the upside. If Opups need to happen, they will. And it is highly questionable if someone with a higher fare class is more likely to return for the off chance of an op-up. Have they resorted to thinking up stuff just to spite those pesky status pax?
Jun 3, 2011, 5:03 pm
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Plus, this is probably the most discrete enhancements lately, so doubt anyone except VFF and FT members notice it and changes buying habit accordingly. I fail to see a real reason for this except discouraging the few Y SEN flyers like me from long haul travel with LH.