LH F - MUC- do they still drive you to the aircraft?
Oct 23, 2009, 10:28 am
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LH F - MUC- do they still drive you to the aircraft?
Hi there,
after a fantastic experience flying in F with LH last year, I decided to blow some miles and repeat the trip, this time MUC-SFO over christmas.
Last time, I used the FRA 1st class lounge which was very good, but as the flight left at around 10.00 am, limited use of the fantastic bar
I was in MUC yesterday, and noticed numerous S class mercedes around, and so I wondered if this wonderful service from lounge to flight by Limo is available at MUC too?
I am flying in on another LH flight that arrives 2 hours earlier. I guess this time should be plenty?
after a fantastic experience flying in F with LH last year, I decided to blow some miles and repeat the trip, this time MUC-SFO over christmas.
Last time, I used the FRA 1st class lounge which was very good, but as the flight left at around 10.00 am, limited use of the fantastic bar
I was in MUC yesterday, and noticed numerous S class mercedes around, and so I wondered if this wonderful service from lounge to flight by Limo is available at MUC too?
I am flying in on another LH flight that arrives 2 hours earlier. I guess this time should be plenty?
Oct 23, 2009, 11:19 am
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Limousine Service
As well as the valet parking service for private and rental cars, the exclusive limousine service for non-gate positions contributes to a comfortable journey from or via Munich: if their flight arrives at a non-gate position, First Class passengers are collected from the aircraft and taken to the bus stop at the terminal or to the First Class Lounge. If departure is from a non-gate position, a limousine or people-carrier service is available to First Class passengers. If due to a delayed arrival in Munich First Class passengers have a connecting time of less than 30 minutes, they will be driven straight to their connecting flight, provided that this will guarantee they catch their flight. This service applies to scheduled flights by Lufthansa, Lufthansa Regional, Austrian Airlines Group and SWISS.
As well as the valet parking service for private and rental cars, the exclusive limousine service for non-gate positions contributes to a comfortable journey from or via Munich: if their flight arrives at a non-gate position, First Class passengers are collected from the aircraft and taken to the bus stop at the terminal or to the First Class Lounge. If departure is from a non-gate position, a limousine or people-carrier service is available to First Class passengers. If due to a delayed arrival in Munich First Class passengers have a connecting time of less than 30 minutes, they will be driven straight to their connecting flight, provided that this will guarantee they catch their flight. This service applies to scheduled flights by Lufthansa, Lufthansa Regional, Austrian Airlines Group and SWISS.
Separate security control for transit passengers from non-EU countries
Since January 2009 there have been changes to the routes through Terminal 2, as well as to the use of the security controls, as a result of new EU regulations. Passengers arriving from countries outside the EU (except for Switzerland, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein), must now go through a separate security check before catching their connecting flight. On arrival at Munich they are therefore routed via a new upper walkway (Level 06) to the relevant departure level for their connecting flight and directed through security before entering gate areas G and H.
Since January 2009 there have been changes to the routes through Terminal 2, as well as to the use of the security controls, as a result of new EU regulations. Passengers arriving from countries outside the EU (except for Switzerland, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein), must now go through a separate security check before catching their connecting flight. On arrival at Munich they are therefore routed via a new upper walkway (Level 06) to the relevant departure level for their connecting flight and directed through security before entering gate areas G and H.
Oct 23, 2009, 12:43 pm
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Hi there,
after a fantastic experience flying in F with LH last year, I decided to blow some miles and repeat the trip, this time MUC-SFO over christmas.
Last time, I used the FRA 1st class lounge which was very good, but as the flight left at around 10.00 am, limited use of the fantastic bar
I was in MUC yesterday, and noticed numerous S class mercedes around, and so I wondered if this wonderful service from lounge to flight by Limo is available at MUC too?
I am flying in on another LH flight that arrives 2 hours earlier. I guess this time should be plenty?
after a fantastic experience flying in F with LH last year, I decided to blow some miles and repeat the trip, this time MUC-SFO over christmas.
Last time, I used the FRA 1st class lounge which was very good, but as the flight left at around 10.00 am, limited use of the fantastic bar
I was in MUC yesterday, and noticed numerous S class mercedes around, and so I wondered if this wonderful service from lounge to flight by Limo is available at MUC too?
I am flying in on another LH flight that arrives 2 hours earlier. I guess this time should be plenty?
Oct 24, 2009, 3:16 am
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I'd be interested to know if this only applies to arrival in F or also to arrival on a shorthaul feeder flight in C for onward connection in F. If the latter how does this work in relation to the new EU regulations for arrivals from the UK when connecting to a longhaul F via the FCL?
An important question would be what happens if you don't have a Schengen VISA and wanna go into the lounge? To enter the FCL you have to immigrate into Germany.
Oct 24, 2009, 4:27 am
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From my experience it applies to all of your connecting flights as well. Even the incoming feeder flight. At least for me that worked every time before I became HON, but I never had an arrival from non-Schengen countries and then connecting to a longhaul flight so far. Worst comes to worst they walk you through the upper floor and you have to do another security check or just drop you at the non-Schengen arrival.
I'm debating whether to upgrade the return leg NRT-FRA to F as well. I've reserved 1A on 744 and it's a day flight so the seat should be ok in C, but 3 hours in the FRA FCL is much nicer than 3 hours in the SEN lounge.
An important question would be what happens if you don't have a Schengen VISA and wanna go into the lounge? To enter the FCL you have to immigrate into Germany.
Oct 27, 2009, 9:59 am
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All Non-Schengen departure passports are kept at the immigration desk until leaving the lounge.
Oct 27, 2009, 10:04 am
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Seriously, that is it. What stops you from going down and leaving the lounge and then coming back later a few hours. Or just not coming back at all.
Oct 27, 2009, 10:14 am
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I mean, you might do it once, but the consequences are pretty clear.
And btw, you have to pass the immigration desk (in some distance), when going downstairs. And those officers know their business I would assume.
Oct 28, 2009, 6:00 am
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To confirm for the OP (experience from a couple of weeks ago):
Arrival from MAN to MUC in C for onward connection to NRT in F, I was met at the plane (apron arrival) by limo & driven directly to the FCL. Then was walked from FCL to (very close by) inside gate for NRT boarding. No security/immigration etc - athough passport was held by the desk in the FCL while I was there.
On return, arrival in F, exited though jetbridge, long walk to security (F escort waiting at security), FCL is a few steps beyond security. Passport held in FCL again. Then limo to my MUC-MAN in C apron departure.
Arrival from MAN to MUC in C for onward connection to NRT in F, I was met at the plane (apron arrival) by limo & driven directly to the FCL. Then was walked from FCL to (very close by) inside gate for NRT boarding. No security/immigration etc - athough passport was held by the desk in the FCL while I was there.
On return, arrival in F, exited though jetbridge, long walk to security (F escort waiting at security), FCL is a few steps beyond security. Passport held in FCL again. Then limo to my MUC-MAN in C apron departure.
Oct 29, 2009, 5:19 am
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In my case, I am flying into MUC in Y, and then onto SFO in F. however, the tickets were purcashed seperately.
So I guess there is no way for the "system" to be told my incoming flight details and therefore get the limo transfer to the FCL as well as the luggage?
So I guess there is no way for the "system" to be told my incoming flight details and therefore get the limo transfer to the FCL as well as the luggage?
Oct 29, 2009, 5:37 am
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It might work. When you check-in for your flight to MUC, tell them that you are continuing in F from MUC. If the right check-in staff makes a note in your booking then it can work. Don't be disappointed if it doesn't. And the limo transfer to the lounge only saves you a little bit walking. It is not that much faster.
Jun 13, 2011, 6:05 pm
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Any recent experiences on car transfer from feeder flight to FCL in MUC?
Ms. CASAFlyer will fly XXX-MUC-ORD on a *A award (single ticket), with MUC-ORD in LH F and XXX-MUC in LH Y (no C award currently available for the ideal connection, but it is only a 1h flight and the seat would be the same in any case...). So, should she expect a car when arriving in MUC or will she be on her own?
Thanks,
CASAFlyer
Ms. CASAFlyer will fly XXX-MUC-ORD on a *A award (single ticket), with MUC-ORD in LH F and XXX-MUC in LH Y (no C award currently available for the ideal connection, but it is only a 1h flight and the seat would be the same in any case...). So, should she expect a car when arriving in MUC or will she be on her own?
Thanks,
CASAFlyer
Jun 13, 2011, 6:25 pm
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Any recent experiences on car transfer from feeder flight to FCL in MUC?
Ms. CASAFlyer will fly XXX-MUC-ORD on a *A award (single ticket), with MUC-ORD in LH F and XXX-MUC in LH Y (no C award currently available for the ideal connection, but it is only a 1h flight and the seat would be the same in any case...). So, should she expect a car when arriving in MUC or will she be on her own?
Ms. CASAFlyer will fly XXX-MUC-ORD on a *A award (single ticket), with MUC-ORD in LH F and XXX-MUC in LH Y (no C award currently available for the ideal connection, but it is only a 1h flight and the seat would be the same in any case...). So, should she expect a car when arriving in MUC or will she be on her own?
Also what happens exactly and where you are being driven depends a bit on XXX and wether it is Schengen, Non Schengen "Safe Origin" and "Non Schengen Unsafe Origin".
Jun 13, 2011, 8:40 pm
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Thanks a lot mamb0! XXX is Schengen and I expect apron position based on past experiences on the route, but of course you never know.
Jun 14, 2011, 2:22 am
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OK, she then should ask the driver to directly bring her to the FCL, she can do immigration in the lounge (enter lounge via concourse G and leave it on concourse H). If the plane stops at a jetway or they forget to pick her up in a limo and she arrives at the bus gate, same thing: Go to the FCL entrance on concourse G