Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
Last edit by: Pat89339
Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Trick it / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
May 2, 2016, 9:24 pm
#6123
formerly chrisbarnett01
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 350
Blogs. The blogs drew attention to it.
If you start in C1 and used the correct X factor, you are probably ok. Time will tell.
May 2, 2016, 9:30 pm
#6124
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: 6km East of EPAYE
Programs: UA Silver, AA Platinum, AS & DL GM Marriott TE, Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,582
May 4, 2016, 7:41 am
#6125
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ARN
Programs: Bit of this, bit of that
Posts: 454
May 4, 2016, 8:08 am
#6126
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: DFW
Programs: AA,Hilton,Club Carlson,Avis
Posts: 66
Just checked some C1-C6 fares for dates near & far and found out there is no FAT at all. Base fares have tripled or quadrupled for nearly every airline compared to a couple of weeks ago.
I hope this is not a sign of things to come.
I hope this is not a sign of things to come.
May 4, 2016, 8:09 am
#6127
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ARN
Programs: Bit of this, bit of that
Posts: 454
May 4, 2016, 8:55 am
#6128
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: BWI<MCI< PHL<DEN<SCL<EZE<CHO<PHL<ABE
Programs: UA Silver / FA
Posts: 939
"Nearly every airline".. except the one I see a $500+ reduction possible c1w-c6 for $513. Not as sexy as the $320 it was.. but still great value and widely available.
May 4, 2016, 10:05 am
#6130
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 49
C’mon guys!
How many times have members mentioned donkey-can-do-it strike FDs were overexposed? Especially ex-C1. Still mentioning it? For what? To kill the remaining ones? What’s the point of saying whether there is YQ or not at this point? What’s the point of mentioning how much you can reduce in certain routes?
Let’s keep calm and develop better skills. Let’s move forward from donkey-can-do-it to monkey-can-do-it level.
How many times have members mentioned donkey-can-do-it strike FDs were overexposed? Especially ex-C1. Still mentioning it? For what? To kill the remaining ones? What’s the point of saying whether there is YQ or not at this point? What’s the point of mentioning how much you can reduce in certain routes?
Let’s keep calm and develop better skills. Let’s move forward from donkey-can-do-it to monkey-can-do-it level.
May 4, 2016, 4:08 pm
#6133
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 96
May 4, 2016, 4:20 pm
#6134
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: DFW
Programs: AA,Hilton,Club Carlson,Avis
Posts: 66
Next step is to figure out whether the base fares can be dumped. Looks like someone is already working on this.
May 5, 2016, 12:51 am
#6135
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 8
back to business
If you're up looking overnight EST you'll notice that several cheaper fares with YR/YQ and amenable fare rules come up then. I also noticed that uptick in fare prices, but over time I've seen this temporary trend a number of times. It usually lasts a few days or a week, but it always evens out again. The same is true with FDing.
Obviously I haven't posted on here a lot, but I've followed a lot of this thread and others, and I've also been involved in FDing for a while and in all this time no exposure was ever permanent. FDs come and they go, and a city pair that may be busted now, might not be next year, or for particular flights.
It's been said before, most notably by Scottrick over on MP, that the FDs we're able to engineer are due to fundamental problems in the architecture of the airlines booking and fare management systems. Without fixing these, which would involve a complete re-engineer and a .... ton of money, there is no solution the airlines can take other than to temporarily plug holes as they become aware of them. And btw, they don't become aware of them because they have the time (or patience) to read and interpret this behemoth of a thread. They become aware of them because flight booking software alerts them to an unusual increase in bookings on a particular route, which happens when FDs get exposed on blogs or other highly trafficked sites. They then investigate and plug the hole.
Or as WWE said a couple of pages ago, people have declared the demise of FDing over 5 times and it never happens. So can we just get back to posting on the actual business of FDing already?
Obviously I haven't posted on here a lot, but I've followed a lot of this thread and others, and I've also been involved in FDing for a while and in all this time no exposure was ever permanent. FDs come and they go, and a city pair that may be busted now, might not be next year, or for particular flights.
It's been said before, most notably by Scottrick over on MP, that the FDs we're able to engineer are due to fundamental problems in the architecture of the airlines booking and fare management systems. Without fixing these, which would involve a complete re-engineer and a .... ton of money, there is no solution the airlines can take other than to temporarily plug holes as they become aware of them. And btw, they don't become aware of them because they have the time (or patience) to read and interpret this behemoth of a thread. They become aware of them because flight booking software alerts them to an unusual increase in bookings on a particular route, which happens when FDs get exposed on blogs or other highly trafficked sites. They then investigate and plug the hole.
Or as WWE said a couple of pages ago, people have declared the demise of FDing over 5 times and it never happens. So can we just get back to posting on the actual business of FDing already?