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Old Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
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Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!



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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.

This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.

Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.

We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).

If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.

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Old Jun 10, 2015, 4:12 pm
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What are your guy's thoughts on Expertflyer? Is it worth the cost? Is it helpful to play this game?
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Old Jun 10, 2015, 4:37 pm
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For routing rules of a specific fare - yes. For fare search - only if you more or less know what you're looking for. For ILAs - to a very limited extent. It's been more or less the same tool for years, and I have given up hope long time ago that they might come up with any kind of enhancements. Get a free trial and see for yourself.
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Old Jun 10, 2015, 4:57 pm
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Originally Posted by jayenoh
Does anyone know if the DL C1-C2 fare for this summer is dumpable? I'm looking at PHL-VCE for 760 with 450 of fat. Any help is much appreciated!!
Not sure if it helps. UA's New York to Italy Summer fares fully dumpable.
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Old Jun 10, 2015, 5:00 pm
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C2-C3 RT *A with 10+ very flyable C2 appetisers!

Several C2 cities to several C3 cities inc. OJ options..

I tried 10+ C2 Xs on different airlines which worked and are very flyable!

One specific C2 city in particular has very laid back fare rules increasing the options even further

Total YR removal leaving ~Ł5 YQ! 50%+ Overall price reduction on routes tried.

ITA Friendly and also bookable on several OTAs.. Moderately date specific!

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Old Jun 10, 2015, 5:17 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
Not sure if it helps. UA's New York to Italy Summer fares fully dumpable.

any hints? please!! can't get it
particularly on the KKXNC7NS to MXP?

got about 44% dump but no luck with 100% you are amazing!

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Old Jun 10, 2015, 6:05 pm
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Originally Posted by saffipemba
Been reading a lot lately and have moderate success in finding some dumps. I was just wondering, is it at all possible to dump TK out of C2???
Originally Posted by aza72
Have been wondering this as well. Some of their lowest base fares require tickets to be issued on stock of TK. Does that reduce the possibility of FD?
See my previous posts for hints and clues
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Old Jun 10, 2015, 6:41 pm
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C2-C4 - €136 ST
- €197 *
- €236 OW

Same city pair, same dates, same OTA, same strike.

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Old Jun 10, 2015, 6:47 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
Not sure if it helps. UA's New York to Italy Summer fares fully dumpable.
Thanks!
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Old Jun 10, 2015, 9:25 pm
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C5-C3 R/T
182 EUR

C5-C6w R/T
371 EUR
appetizer may not last long!

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Old Jun 11, 2015, 2:20 am
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Originally Posted by Flying4less
Several C2 cities to several C3 cities inc. OJ options..

I tried 10+ C2 Xs on different airlines which worked and are very flyable!

One specific C2 city in particular has very laid back fare rules increasing the options even further

Total YR removal leaving ~Ł5 YQ! 50%+ Overall price reduction on routes tried.

ITA Friendly and also bookable on several OTAs.. Moderately date specific!
Very nice find, thank you for this! Any hints on alliance and date range?
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Old Jun 11, 2015, 3:30 am
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Originally Posted by dt0809
Very nice find, thank you for this! Any hints on alliance and date range?
Thank you

Ive added the alliance but i won't be giving any info away regarding dates or the specific cities involved as i believe there is more than enough to work from that ive already posted, especially as its ITA friendly!

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Old Jun 11, 2015, 3:32 am
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C2c - China - 151€, different alliance than my previous post. OTA shows even 126€, but not bookable.
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Old Jun 11, 2015, 6:34 am
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Originally Posted by Flying4less
Several C2 cities to several C3 cities inc. OJ options..

I tried 10+ C2 Xs on different airlines which worked and are very flyable!

One specific C2 city in particular has very laid back fare rules increasing the options even further

Total YR removal leaving ~Ł5 YQ! 50%+ Overall price reduction on routes tried.

ITA Friendly and also bookable on several OTAs.. Moderately date specific!
I can easily find C2-C3 187,07€ but not properly flyable...........

EDIT: 154,08€
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Old Jun 11, 2015, 7:02 am
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Originally Posted by pimpcoltd
For routing rules of a specific fare - yes. For fare search - only if you more or less know what you're looking for. For ILAs - to a very limited extent.
Any thoughts on ILA accuracy on EF vs KVS? I have read conflicting accounts for both.
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Old Jun 11, 2015, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by briancw80
Any thoughts on ILA accuracy on EF vs KVS? I have read conflicting accounts for both.
If you have a specific concern regarding the [Interline Agreements] function in the KVS Tool, please let us know.
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