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Old Jan 22, 23, 5:24 am
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It depends ;-) What has been written should be enough, possibly too much information.
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Old Jan 22, 23, 1:27 pm
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If my read is correct , not many dates available later in the year.
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Old Jan 22, 23, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer View Post
INTRA Brazil 3X works again.

In very specific circumstances.

Major OTA
​​​​​​​prices out in ITA?
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Old Jan 24, 23, 3:12 am
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IS it can be explained to newbie ?

[QUOTE=man4business;34946237]C1-C3 /rt (in Y) + C1-C2 /rt (in C) ~ 840 usd
/QUOTE]
or

/rt---??EXPLANE PLS (in Y)
/rt--??EXPLANE PLS (in C)
can i use it in search with ITA? OR other OTA
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Old Jan 24, 23, 3:18 am
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ITA matrix (I personally prefer "old" version) is fine.
/rt means "return ticket", actually redundant info since if not written we assume that we talk about /rt
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Old Jan 24, 23, 3:50 am
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keep an eye on branson carrier as it joins ST.
fare rules certain to change to combine with new partners
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Old Jan 24, 23, 3:53 am
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C2-C1 fully dumpable by 3X

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Old Jan 26, 23, 2:02 am
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Kind of new here, sorry if this is a dumb question...
I recently looked into that C1w-C3 routing published on sf with a non-alliance carrier, but was wondering if it's possible to cut the fat on their JV codeshare partner...

Thanks in advance
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Old Jan 26, 23, 3:16 am
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Originally Posted by Redshun View Post
C2-C1 fully dumpable by 3X
Same one posted here a few weeks ago?
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Old Jan 26, 23, 9:27 am
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Hello everyone,
I'm a long FT member (even though not active on the forums) and a FD enthusiast! I've read all the posts in the past and tried a few FD's back then with success (beginner's luck, perhaps?!). But then - as I'm sure many of you will resonate with this - life gets into the way, work, kids, bills to pay, etc, and eventually you have no time to dedicate to this "sport"/hobby.
I have recently been aware of the infamous SF posts about some new FD's the're advertising and selling, and I'd like your help (for those of you who'll be kind enough to guide me) to get back to this, and most importantly, a few answers for my once-again-newbie questions, as follow:
1) In your opinion, are FD's a "rising sport" again, or is it just a SF's "stunt" to get attention (I thought this was dying a few years ago...)?
2) When EoE specifies that side trips are permitted, provided that combination is for airline "x","y","z" does it mean it's just those airlines? (It seems that way, apparently, but I tried (for a 3x) and don't get any results from ITA...)
3) When EoE specifies that side trips are permitted, and no airline is specified, how can we determine the working dump? Is it just trial & error? I've tried a lot of different airlines, and doesn't work
4) When EoE specifies that side trips are permitted via the point of combination, a working FD (1x or 3x) must be to/from departure/arrival city? (all my working FD's in the past had nothing to do with that, but rather on other continents!)
And finally,
5) I'm currently trying to figure out a working 3x FD for a route (C1-C3 /rt). I have found the BF and, apparently, the airline/country/city pair to cut fat... but every single time I test it on ITA, despite cutting all/most the fat, the 3x BF is huge and the savings are gone! I then try to manually force the "N" and "F bc" codes, but then no results are found. In short, I cut the fat, but I'm forced to an outrageous 3x BF! Is it a glitch from matrix, or should I look for other FD?
I hope I haven't revealed any secrets and/or broken the forum's guidelines here... but I really need your help to point me in the right direction!
I look forward to hearing from you, and please accept my best regards in advance
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Old Yesterday, 8:31 am
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Is the c1-c3 3x strike still working? I am new to FD and want to practice on finding the strike
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Old Yesterday, 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by andydd View Post
No "feasible (read economically sensible)" way to best of my knowledge..but will be more than happy to be proven wrong. Lots of possibilities before..but this was back in the days.
I was able to cut fat by 50% EX-C1. Requires some weird construction, but does save money. Would be interesting to know if anyone has gotten 100% off. Managed to price it but not sure if it's a good idea to travel on it. Decided not to use it anyways as they had a promotion with no change fees. Also not really sure why the fat is being cut or even why the construction works - need to do more research.

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Old Yesterday, 3:40 pm
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there was an additional discount on these FDed flights . ( no longer available )
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Old Today, 4:14 am
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Originally Posted by laboratory View Post
I was able to cut fat by 50% EX-C1. Requires some weird construction, but does save money. Would be interesting to know if anyone has gotten 100% off. Managed to price it but not sure if it's a good idea to travel on it. Decided not to use it anyways as they had a promotion with no change fees. Also not really sure why the fat is being cut or even why the construction works - need to do more research.
Back in the days (last flown in Decembre 2019), I managed to cut fat to ~12 IIRC on two specifics routes, C3 to C2 RT for 180 with a 3X. Unfortunately, they don't fly those routes currently, hopefully it will come back in the future. But never managed to cut YQ ex-C1/C2 on this carrier. Used it a few times
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Old Today, 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by eruighaskl View Post
Back in the days (last flown in Decembre 2019), I managed to cut fat to ~12 IIRC on two specifics routes, C3 to C2 RT for 180 with a 3X. Unfortunately, they don't fly those routes currently, hopefully it will come back in the future. But never managed to cut YQ ex-C1/C2 on this carrier. Used it a few times
No flights on C1-C2 anymore..those routes ended a few years ago. Earlier C1-C3 was 100% dumpable.. with a simple strike. Like I mentioned that it can still be dumped but it makes no economic sense anymore at least on the routes that I am interested in and the strikes I know of
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