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Old Sep 28, 2022, 11:49 am
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C1-C3

GF says this route usually costs $10,000+ rt in J, but thanks to a good fare on which all fat can be removed, Americans can fly it for just $1,5xx. Might be possible to reduce another $150 or so.
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Old Sep 29, 2022, 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by zzll
GF says this route usually costs $10,000+ rt in J, but thanks to a good fare on which all fat can be removed, Americans can fly it for just $1,5xx. Might be possible to reduce another $150 or so.
Any hints?
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Old Oct 1, 2022, 7:19 pm
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Old Oct 2, 2022, 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by SourSweetTea
C1 - C2 RT in J RT for $985. Almost full dump, and very little room to dump anymore. Totally not too good of a deal, but that's my first meaningful try. Definitely beyond LCC that probably worth trying.

You can't really get away from death and taxes.

Yet I still can't even understand a single word game here.
Well it's not the very best...but maybe it is a fd. you tell me. the YR completely disappeared. It isn't showing on the price breakdown at all. Is that normal for fd ? But the x3 is very high F
i tried f bc=z|y|o|w it doesnt work. any help ? the net decreased was only about $600. Damn you F class. Does it mean if it works for F, it should work for Economy on that route for strike candidate ?

New to matrix, just started playing a few weeks ago. any advice and tips, much appreciated
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Old Oct 4, 2022, 11:51 pm
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I'm trying the C1-C2 r/t in Y. Perhaps a different fare than what was already posted above. Can anyone please confirm if I can do better than C$ 273.36 using 3x?
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Old Oct 6, 2022, 12:20 pm
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I think 167 usd. But I think, that the deal is going to be killed, soon

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Old Oct 12, 2022, 5:41 pm
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For whatever it's worth.

C4-C4 C1-C2 C2-C1 itinerary.

Skipped C1-C2 but C2-C1 Stayed intact
C1 OneWorld airline agent
​​​​​could not even see entire construction even though it was a SABRE booking.
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Old Oct 14, 2022, 6:42 pm
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C2-C3 | C1w-C2, 325 USD - ota price, (known and discussed in some places, but good fare comes with a proper C2 selection and dates)
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Old Oct 15, 2022, 12:56 am
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Originally Posted by man4business
C2-C3 | C1w-C2, 325 USD - ota price, (known and discussed in some places, but good fare comes with a proper C2 selection and dates)
Amazing. Never seen anything like this before.
Well done - as usual.

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Old Oct 15, 2022, 10:08 pm
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Just general thing I do if I have to go to a place a twice in a given period of time. For a C1-C2/C3 roundtrip, add a C2/C3-C1 roundtrip in between such that the C2/C3-C1 "outbound" leg is the return back to C1 and the "inbound" leg is the outbound leg of the second trip. Usually, C2/C3-C1 roundtrip is much cheaper so the price per trip goes down, usually hundreds for Y and possible a few thousand for J.
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Old Oct 18, 2022, 2:24 am
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C2 - C4 292€ .
Few Dates
Full Service
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Old Oct 18, 2022, 8:09 am
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I see ~257 €, however not sure if we talk about the same - it works also with C2-C1 /rt C2-C4 /rt for about 439 € (or just C2-C4 | C1-C2 for 229 €)

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Old Oct 18, 2022, 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
C4-C4 C1-C2 C2-C1 itinerary.

Skipped C1-C2 but C2-C1 Stayed intact
C1 OneWorld airline agent
​​​​​could not even see entire construction even though it was a SABRE booking.

was C1-C2 operator star alliance but ticketed on another non alliance partner’s stock ?
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Old Oct 18, 2022, 11:35 pm
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If it is with a long layover. We talk about the same thing

Originally Posted by man4business
I see ~257 €, however not sure if we talk about the same - it works also with C2-C1 /rt C2-C4 /rt for about 439 € (or just C2-C4 | C1-C2 for 229 €)

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Old Oct 21, 2022, 4:59 pm
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On second thought I think we do not talk about the same - you are simply too good not to get a similar price in the deal I have quoted.. so I started a bit of investigation and found a different possibility which is for 293 euros... and well, concerning layover, in my case it is not so long, 10 h (in C2-C4 route).
Yet there is also the 3rd option around 270 euro and indeed, often with long layovers (but the availability is not that low). By "options" I mean totally different carriers.

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