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Any good dumps for QR - looking C3C2, tried a bunch of 1x and 3x but nothing seems to get rid of the awful amount showing as YQ...I have a beauty base fare D ticket at 1500usd but yq is another 1300usd...
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Do you guys even dare to book and fly anything right now? All the chaos, cancellations and re-bookings that occur universally look to me like a big deterrence. Doesn't that increase the risk of exposure significantly? Not everything can be rescheduled and addressed automatically - or worse: is cancelled without re-booking ... you may simply be forced to call an airline these days. That a risk you are willing to take?
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Do you guys even dare to book and fly anything right now? All the chaos, cancellations and re-bookings that occur universally look to me like a big deterrence. Doesn't that increase the risk of exposure significantly? Not everything can be rescheduled and addressed automatically - or worse: is cancelled without re-booking ... you may simply be forced to call an airline these days. That a risk you are willing to take?
I knew it had risks when I bought it, but most of these tickets are that way. Don't play the game if you can't accept the risk. For me it worked out since my new ticket was also cancelled and rebooked by the new carrier, but due to IT issues they gave me a flight credit for the cancelled ticket, so essentially I flew for free.

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If you want to combine 2 especially cheap one way Business Class fares, especially when in different alliances and avoiding YQ, then OTA is a must. Here I am thinking OJs that begin or end in TLV and / or SIN and / or BCN.
I doubt that General Consensus exists anywhere.
Last edited by WingedWorldExplorer; Jul 16, 22 at 5:27 pm
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If you want to pay full price - yes.
If you want to combine 2 especially cheap one way Business Class fares, especially when in different alliances and avoiding YQ, then OTA is a must. Here I am thinking OJs that begin or end in TLV and / or SIN and / or BCN.
I doubt that General Consensus exists anywhere.
If you want to combine 2 especially cheap one way Business Class fares, especially when in different alliances and avoiding YQ, then OTA is a must. Here I am thinking OJs that begin or end in TLV and / or SIN and / or BCN.
I doubt that General Consensus exists anywhere.
Is it still better to book with an OTA even if the price is the same?
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If memory serves, way back when I used to read this thread regularly the consensus was to avoid booking directly with airlines. IIRC there were several instances an agent looking at the ticket at the airport and ...... things going sideways (even with online booking and online checkin). Again, it's been years and I am going strictly by my memory from several years ago.
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If memory serves, way back when I used to read this thread regularly the consensus was to avoid booking directly with airlines. IIRC there were several instances an agent looking at the ticket at the airport and ...... things going sideways (even with online booking and online checkin). Again, it's been years and I am going strictly by my memory from several years ago.
Not only that, but I am currently staring down the barrel of a sub $150 C1-C2 DOJ which can be booked directly with the airline or almost any OTA for the same price. I feel like in some ways, booking a fare like this directly with the airline could be less suspicious because your ticket looks exactly like everyone else's (who also booked directly). And if the airline changes your itinerary, you'll be automatically rebooked, just like everyone else.
Of course, the vast majority of tricks can only be booked through OTAs but without a doubt, there's a certain percentage that can also be booked directly with the airline and I was wondering if anyone had thoughts on it.
Last edited by Gongoozler; Jul 17, 22 at 8:50 am Reason: clarity
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Even with no throw away X factor