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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.

This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.

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Old Nov 10, 21, 5:06 pm
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Tried hundreds of city combos and can get the fare component down to less than $200 in total but cant get rid of the Carrier-imposed surcharge (YQ).
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Old Nov 10, 21, 7:06 pm
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Oh my, I am new here, not to FT but to this page, already fully obsessed. Does anyone have a favorite blog they can point me to, in order to learn a bit more and get started? I've read a few pages but 685 pages is daunting... and one of the better ways to learn is trial and error, 99 percent of these posts I can't "test" since they are surely expired, and I am working with obviously limited information. A kind nudge of where to best start my knowledge journey would be appreciated, and I promise to return the favor in the future.
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Old Nov 11, 21, 9:48 am
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San Francisco to European Capital in First Class and Business Class

SFO to USA connection airport and then Business Class from same USA connection airport to European Capital.

618.95 Euros

For a few Euros more and departing from Boston the Business Class can be extended and go to Rome Italy or Bologna.

No X factors.


Trick to pull up low C1-C2 Business CLass fare is only about:
1. routing
2 codeshare
3. special tool
and
4. multi-Class capable booking site.
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Old Nov 11, 21, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by davem4 View Post
Good to know!

If I work through airports in Europe, would it show in this tool?
Yes ITA is your first step. However, your coding is incorrect.
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Old Nov 15, 21, 2:42 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer View Post
Yes ITA is your first step. However, your coding is incorrect.
Undstood. I rushed and inputted airports incorrectly. Trying now and will see what links from the chrome extention show.
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Old Nov 15, 21, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by davem4 View Post
Undstood. I rushed and inputted airports incorrectly. Trying now and will see what links from the chrome extention show.
Well found out which site allows multi cabin bookings (other than airline pages). However matches 1:1 with the price in ITA.

Working through the unusual codeshares but nothing jumping out. yQ fluctuates from 750 to 870 depending on mix of fare / codeshare but the base price moves with it so overall is the same.
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Old Nov 16, 21, 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by davem4 View Post
Well found out which site allows multi cabin bookings (other than airline pages). However matches 1:1 with the price in ITA.

Working through the unusual codeshares but nothing jumping out. yQ fluctuates from 750 to 870 depending on mix of fare / codeshare but the base price moves with it so overall is the same.
If you code correctly you can fly British Airways in Business Class all the way from Boston via London Heathrow to Vienna Austria or Roma or Napoli or Bologna Italy for 556,42 price .
Bookable on one of a OneWorld carrier's international sites.
Return C2 to USA ( as before ) in Y

Oops: BA MIA LHR MXP works also
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Old Nov 16, 21, 3:12 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer View Post
If you code correctly you can fly British Airways in Business Class all the way from Boston via London Heathrow to Vienna Austria or Roma or Napoli or Bologna Italy for 556,42 price .
Bookable on one of a OneWorld carrier's international sites.
Return C2 to USA ( as before ) in Y

Oops: BA MIA LHR MXP works also
is there a timeframe, im looking in april?

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Old Nov 16, 21, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer View Post
If you code correctly you can fly British Airways in Business Class all the way from Boston via London Heathrow to Vienna Austria or Roma or Napoli or Bologna Italy for 556,42 price .
Bookable on one of a OneWorld carrier's international sites.
Return C2 to USA ( as before ) in Y

Oops: BA MIA LHR MXP works also
I'm see about $800 for my construction, but that still includes $408 in YR. Is that right? Can't get the SFO option to work though.

EDIT: down to $752 with the $408 added
EDIT 2: down to $736, still with $408 added and zero BA flights. \_(ツ)_/

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Old Nov 16, 21, 5:45 pm
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Originally Posted by skunker View Post
I'm see about $800 for my construction, but that still includes $408 in YR. Is that right? Can't get the SFO option to work though.

EDIT: down to $752 with the $408 added
EDIT 2: down to $736, still with $408 added and zero BA flights. \_(ツ)_/
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Its not really a YQ removing trick per se as we are used to here.. Because we are comparing to such super high C1-C2 BIZ fares, a certain amount of YQ does not significantly change the value equation.

Originally Posted by yuel View Post
is there a timeframe, im looking in april?
. Not sure but I use February. Late November 2021 works too
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Old Nov 16, 21, 7:38 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer View Post
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Its not really a YQ removing trick per se as we are used to here.. Because we are comparing to such super high C1-C2 BIZ fares, a certain amount of YQ does not significantly change the value equation.

. Not sure but I use February. Late November 2021 works too
Well, a standard r/t with this business fare has a YR of $1400, so dropping to $400 is a significant savings.
Too bad I can't use it.
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Old Nov 17, 21, 4:28 am
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Originally Posted by skunker View Post
Well, a standard r/t with this business fare has a YR of $1400, so dropping to $400 is a significant savings.
Too bad I can't use it.
Exectly, That combined with a $ 164.00 BASE FARE makes for a great deal.
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Old Nov 21, 21, 12:29 pm
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Red Star to a different island in C5 for 114 rt ai or 103 to another beach destination in C5 (no island) rt ai.

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Old Nov 26, 21, 11:13 am
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C2 - C3 with almost all 3x
BF 25.14, book by 29NOV21
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Old Nov 26, 21, 1:45 pm
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And now, what? Happy? Proud? Or simply you want to kill the deal?
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