Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
Last edit by: Pat89339
Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Trick it / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Jul 26, 2017, 1:50 pm
#8402
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Jul 26, 2017, 2:03 pm
#8403
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: NYC
Programs: DL ✈️
Posts: 638
it's in the fare details the two free european cities.
Jul 27, 2017, 12:44 pm
#8404
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: NYC
Programs: UA
Posts: 36
I'm trying to trick an AC flight, but have run into an interesting problem (at least for me). A trick removes all $434 of YQ, but the BFs increase from $113.50 each way to $267.50 and the combinability rules change. The interesting part is that the booking class and the flights stay exactly the same. It's as if the booking class changed, but ITA doesn't recognize it.
Has anyone ever encountered this, and is there a way to bring the BFs back down?
Has anyone ever encountered this, and is there a way to bring the BFs back down?
Jul 27, 2017, 1:03 pm
#8405
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: NYC
Programs: DL ✈️
Posts: 638
I'm trying to trick an AC flight, but have run into an interesting problem (at least for me). A trick removes all $434 of YQ, but the BFs increase from $113.50 each way to $267.50 and the combinability rules change. The interesting part is that the booking class and the flights stay exactly the same. It's as if the booking class changed, but ITA doesn't recognize it.
Has anyone ever encountered this, and is there a way to bring the BFs back down?
Has anyone ever encountered this, and is there a way to bring the BFs back down?
Make sure to read the combinability of the fare and try in OTAs anyway
Jul 27, 2017, 3:12 pm
#8406
Join Date: Mar 2017
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Posts: 8
Jul 27, 2017, 3:24 pm
#8407
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: MOW
Posts: 12
Check surcharges sections, probably they were added to BF. Smth like this:
AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 60.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
MIDDLE EAST.
Also probably combination rules state that the most restrictive conditions apply when combining fares, so rules are overwritten without booking class change. I might be wrong about that completely.
AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 60.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
MIDDLE EAST.
Also probably combination rules state that the most restrictive conditions apply when combining fares, so rules are overwritten without booking class change. I might be wrong about that completely.
Jul 27, 2017, 6:11 pm
#8408
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: NYC
Programs: UA
Posts: 36
I don't see any surcharges or anything in the fare rules, and I can't get it to price at the lower BF on any OTAs (at least not on any from the Powertools script). Where in the fare rules would a clause like this appear?
Jul 27, 2017, 6:26 pm
#8409
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, Marriott Platinium
Posts: 1,334
Do you know that a booking code like "O" can have different rules right? for example, a BF "O" like OXXSDNZ is $200 but there is another "O" like OZZCDNJ that cost $400, both are "O" (lowest base fare on many airlines) but the rules for each one can be different.
You may found a strike that is compatible with a higher BF but it doesn't meant is compatible with the lowest one. Compare both fares and see what's different.
You may found a strike that is compatible with a higher BF but it doesn't meant is compatible with the lowest one. Compare both fares and see what's different.
Jul 27, 2017, 8:45 pm
#8410
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: NYC
Programs: UA
Posts: 36
Do you know that a booking code like "O" can have different rules right? for example, a BF "O" like OXXSDNZ is $200 but there is another "O" like OZZCDNJ that cost $400, both are "O" (lowest base fare on many airlines) but the rules for each one can be different.
You may found a strike that is compatible with a higher BF but it doesn't meant is compatible with the lowest one. Compare both fares and see what's different.
You may found a strike that is compatible with a higher BF but it doesn't meant is compatible with the lowest one. Compare both fares and see what's different.
Jul 28, 2017, 1:13 am
#8411
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west coast best coast
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Posts: 3,989
Jul 28, 2017, 2:31 am
#8412
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New York Metropolitan Area 45 km from JFK
Programs: UA,AA,AS,BA
Posts: 4,607
LH FRA and LX ZRH and SN BRU but you will need to transport yourself by plane, bus or train between them. I did ZRH-BRU for 9 euros.
Last edited by WingedWorldExplorer; Jul 28, 2017 at 2:46 am
Jul 29, 2017, 8:44 am
#8414
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Great Britain
Programs: Air: QR Silver. BA Silver Emirates, Hotels: CC Gold, IHG Spire AMB, Hilton Diamond.
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