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Old Jul 26, 17, 11:57 am
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Old Jul 26, 17, 2:50 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer View Post
I did that one in April. Remember the TWO free European stop-over cities.
couod you explain why TWO FREE european stop-over cities?
a quick search finds me that free stopovers are possible with TAP, Finnair, Icelandair, KLM, Turkish....
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Old Jul 26, 17, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by alexdergrosse View Post
couod you explain why TWO FREE european stop-over cities?
a quick search finds me that free stopovers are possible with TAP, Finnair, Icelandair, KLM, Turkish....
i dont think you're searching in the right place with the right parameters.

it's in the fare details the two free european cities.
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Old Jul 27, 17, 1:44 pm
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I'm trying to trick an AC flight, but have run into an interesting problem (at least for me). A trick removes all $434 of YQ, but the BFs increase from $113.50 each way to $267.50 and the combinability rules change. The interesting part is that the booking class and the flights stay exactly the same. It's as if the booking class changed, but ITA doesn't recognize it.

Has anyone ever encountered this, and is there a way to bring the BFs back down?
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Old Jul 27, 17, 2:03 pm
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Originally Posted by maxiet View Post
I'm trying to trick an AC flight, but have run into an interesting problem (at least for me). A trick removes all $434 of YQ, but the BFs increase from $113.50 each way to $267.50 and the combinability rules change. The interesting part is that the booking class and the flights stay exactly the same. It's as if the booking class changed, but ITA doesn't recognize it.

Has anyone ever encountered this, and is there a way to bring the BFs back down?
That has happened to me a couple times, sometimes I've fixed it with a different trick.
Make sure to read the combinability of the fare and try in OTAs anyway
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Old Jul 27, 17, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by tomasdev View Post
i dont think you're searching in the right place with the right parameters.

it's in the fare details the two free european cities.
So you mean, e.g. the airline is stating "two free stopovers permitted in X and in Y", such as CGD and AMS for KL and AF?
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Old Jul 27, 17, 4:24 pm
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Check surcharges sections, probably they were added to BF. Smth like this:
AND - A FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 60.00 PER COUPON WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR ANY SECTOR WITHIN
MIDDLE EAST.

Also probably combination rules state that the most restrictive conditions apply when combining fares, so rules are overwritten without booking class change. I might be wrong about that completely.
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Old Jul 27, 17, 7:11 pm
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Originally Posted by tomasdev View Post
That has happened to me a couple times, sometimes I've fixed it with a different trick.
Make sure to read the combinability of the fare and try in OTAs anyway
I don't see any surcharges or anything in the fare rules, and I can't get it to price at the lower BF on any OTAs (at least not on any from the Powertools script). Where in the fare rules would a clause like this appear?
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Old Jul 27, 17, 7:26 pm
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Do you know that a booking code like "O" can have different rules right? for example, a BF "O" like OXXSDNZ is $200 but there is another "O" like OZZCDNJ that cost $400, both are "O" (lowest base fare on many airlines) but the rules for each one can be different.

You may found a strike that is compatible with a higher BF but it doesn't meant is compatible with the lowest one. Compare both fares and see what's different.
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Old Jul 27, 17, 9:45 pm
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Originally Posted by fedechat View Post
Do you know that a booking code like "O" can have different rules right? for example, a BF "O" like OXXSDNZ is $200 but there is another "O" like OZZCDNJ that cost $400, both are "O" (lowest base fare on many airlines) but the rules for each one can be different.

You may found a strike that is compatible with a higher BF but it doesn't meant is compatible with the lowest one. Compare both fares and see what's different.
Ah, you were right, but I found a different strike that works with the lower base fare, albeit more expensive. Thanks
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Old Jul 28, 17, 2:13 am
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Ah, you were right, but I found a different strike that works with the lower base fare, albeit more expensive. Thanks
Yes. Particularly with AC who will file fares in the same discount classes between city pairs depending on sale window.
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Old Jul 28, 17, 3:31 am
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Originally Posted by alexdergrosse View Post
couod you explain why TWO FREE european stop-over cities?
a quick search finds me that free stopovers are possible with TAP, Finnair, Icelandair, KLM, Turkish....
Actually three were possible but fare rules do not explicitly state that. Also, for some reason the correct low price does not show if you insert NYC as origination. The two first segments must be precisely input.

LH FRA and LX ZRH and SN BRU but you will need to transport yourself by plane, bus or train between them. I did ZRH-BRU for 9 euros.

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Old Jul 29, 17, 6:24 am
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C2-C3c 212

C2-C3c only with main course = 234
211 possible.
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Old Jul 29, 17, 9:44 am
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C2-C3c only with main course = 234
211 possible.
So if you only need the main course is it a self dump, finger trouble, OTA cock-up or a genuinely deliberate low fare ?!
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Old Jul 31, 17, 11:12 am
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Looking for a good dump from paris in November

any good dumps from paris?

Looking for something to anywhere in November
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