MilesToGoBeforeISleep

can get this fare to show up on ITA and also on Orbitz but can not get it too the ticketing stage.

it looks to be an EWR-MEX fare which is somehow allowing longer routings.

can price it on ITA thru SCL, GRU also.

example:

Itinerary:

--- Newark, NJ to Mexico City, Mexico
(36 hrs 20 min, 10051 miles)

Air Canada Flight AC8639 on a Canadair RJ 705 (jet) in business class (operated by AIR CANADA JAZZ)
Departs: Newark, NJ Thur, Dec 27, 6:15p (1 hr 45 min)
(EWR: New York Newark Liberty Int'l)
Arrives: Toronto, Canada Thur, Dec 27, 8:00p
(YYZ: Toronto Lester B Pearson)

--- Layover in Toronto: 2 hrs 10 min ---

Air Canada Flight AC90 on a Boeing 767 (jet) in business class
Departs: Toronto, Canada Thur, Dec 27, 10:10p (10 hrs 10 min)
(YYZ: Toronto Lester B Pearson)
Arrives: Sao Paulo, Brazil Fri, Dec 28, 11:20a
(GRU: Sao Paulo Guarulhos)

--- Layover in Sao Paulo: 12 hrs 35 min ---

AeroMexico Flight AM15 on a Boeing 767 (jet) in business class (meal, movie)
Departs: Sao Paulo, Brazil Fri, Dec 28, 11:55p (9 hrs 40 min)
(GRU: Sao Paulo Guarulhos)
Arrives: Mexico City, Mexico Sat, Dec 29, 5:35a
(MEX: Mexico City Juarez Int'l)

anyone able to price this out and book it? would make for a nice MR

MilesToGoBeforeISleep

update:

can price on expedia.com... have not pulled the trigger yet

iloveipods

Nice find! Can you get stopovers to book? Or does it invoke the HIP check?

Also, this is confusing: The title says you can route through EZE, but your post is routing via GRU...

graraps

Is that available on just these dates or on virtually any?
Got fare rules?
Apologies, but my connection is a bit slow and I'm afraid it will get totally screwed up if I make a complicated booking query.

MilesToGoBeforeISleep

no, not yet

iloveipods

Sorry, realized you said it is an example itin. Are you doing this with multicity on exp?

MilesToGoBeforeISleep

the fare basis is on AC : C class

rules from ITA:
Air Canada AC EWRMEX C fare rules and restrictions
General notes:

BUSINESS RESTRICTED FARES C
From/To AREA 1 FOR ONE WAY FARES


Flight restrictions:

THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY RG FLIGHT.


Stopovers:

UNLIMITED FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED.


Combinability restrictions:

FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH ANY
FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF TO FORM
SINGLE/DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS.
END-ON-END PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
TRAVEL MUST BE VIA POINT OF COMBINATION.
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.


Surcharges:

A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF CAD 10.00 OR USD 7.00 WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM JAMAICA.
NOTE -
THIS CAN BE FOUND IN AC RULE 23


Sales restrictions:

NOTE -
EXTENSION OF THE TICKET VALIDITY FOR MEDICAL
REASONS IS NOT PERMITTED UNDER GUIDELINES STATED
IN RULE 65.


NOTE -
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER
GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER. CONTACT
CARRIER FOR DETAILS.


Penalties:

CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
CHARGE CAD 200.00 FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
CHANGES
BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHARGE CAD 100.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - FOR O/B CHANGE
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE
RECALCULATED USING CURRENT AND APPLICABLE FARES IN
EFFECT AT THE DATE OF ISSUANCE. CHARGE DIFFERENCE
IN FARE PLUS CHANGE FEE. CHANGE FEE IS SUBJECT TO
EACH CHANGE TRANSACTION.
------------------------------------------------
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - FOR I/B CHANGE
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE RECALCULATED
USING HISTORICAL AND APPLICABLE FARES IN EFFECT
AT THE ORIGINAL TICKET DATE. CHARGE DIFFERENCE
IN FARE PLUS CHANGE FEE. CHANGE FEE IS SUBJECT TO
EACH CHANGE TRANSACTION.
-------------------------------------------------
NEW FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER/EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
ORIGINAL FARE. IF NEW FARE IS LOWER THAN ORIGINAL
FARE-NO REFUND PERMITTED. THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT IS
FORFEIT.
-------------------------------------------------
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO SHOWS -
REFER TO CANCELLATION PENALTY.
IN THE EVENT OF A DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL FARE
COMBINATION THE INTERNATIONAL RULE PROVISION FOR
CHANGE AND CANCELLATION WILL APPLY.
AFTER DEPARTURE
CHARGE CAD 100.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY
THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE RECALCULATED
USING HISTORICAL AND APPLICABLE FARES IN EFFECT
AT THE ORIGINAL TICKET DATE. CHARGE DIFFERENCE
IN FARE PLUS CHANGE FEE. CHANGE FEE IS SUBJECT TO
EACH CHANGE TRANSACTION.
------------------------------------------------
NEW FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER/EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
ORIGINAL FARE. IF NEW FARE IS LOWER THAN ORIGINAL
FARE-NO REFUND PERMITTED. THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT IS
FORFEIT.
-------------------------------------------------
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO SHOWS -
REFER TO CANCELLATION PENALTY.
IN THE EVENT OF A DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL FARE
COMBINATION THE INTERNATIONAL RULE PROVISION FOR
CHANGE AND CANCELLATION WILL APPLY.


Higher intermediate points (HIP) exceptions:

NOTE -
MILEAGE SURCHARGE MUST BE IGNORED.


Children's discounts:

ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 8-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.


ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.


Tour discounts:

NOTE -
DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.


Agent discounts:

NOTE -
DISCOUNTS PERMITTED- BLACKOUT PERIODS MAY APPLY.


NOTE -
DISCOUNTS MAY BE PERMITTED
REFER TO CIC 170
BLACKOUT PERIODS MAY APPLY.


Miscellaneous fare tags:

NOTE -
THE CHARGE FOR LOST TICKETS IS AS FOLLOWS--
USD 75.00
CAD 100.00
EUR 100.00


Voluntary changes:

IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF ANY CARRIERS INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE CAD 100.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE
COMPONENT WITHIN JOURNEY AND
REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS AND CONNECTIONS/1ST FLIGHT
COUPON/FARE BREAKS
2. AC FARES ARE USED
3. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING
DATE KNOWN
6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
2. AC FARES ARE USED
3. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING
DATE KNOWN
6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. AC FARES ARE USED
2. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED
3. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING
DATE KNOWN
4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
OF FARE COMPONENT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
ADD-COLLECT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT WILL
APPLY TO NEW TKT
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT WILL
APPLY TO NEW TKT.
IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF AC INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE CAD 100.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ANY CHANGED FARE
COMPONENT WITHIN JOURNEY - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNT APPLIES
AND
REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO STOPOVERS AND CONNECTIONS/1ST FLIGHT
COUPON/FARE BREAKS
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
3. AC FARES ARE USED
4. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED
5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
6. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING
DATE KNOWN
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
2. AC FARES ARE USED
3. PRIVATE TARIFFS ARE INCLUDED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. VALIDATE ADVANCE RES REQUIREMENTS WHEN BOOKING
DATE KNOWN
6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
ADD-COLLECT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT.


Rule application:

NORMAL FARES BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 1.
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 1.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS
SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES.
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
THIS RULE ALSO APPLIES TO JOINT TRANSPORTATION.
APPLICABLE JOINTLY BETWEEN SERVICE ON AC AND CO/UA
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
VIA OTHER THAN F/J/Y/Y2/YR FARES AC SHALL LIMIT
THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT
AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SEATS WILL NOT
NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE
NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH AC MAKES AVAILABLE ON A
GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY AC S BEST
JUDGEMENT AS TO THE ANTICIPATED TOTAL PASSENGER
LOAD ON EACH FLIGHT.

iloveipods

Strange, expertflyer shows two one-way "C" fares loaded as the name of the fare base. It says MPM fare but I don't see an MPM anywhere

jacksonSFO

I tried a couple of quick searches from west coast... yvr but no luck...if anyone else tries, plmk if you find anything

holtju2

Hip/mileage Exceptions
unless Otherwise Specified Note - Mileage Surcharge Must Be ignored.

iloveipods

Yes but I am unable to price a stopover on exp without it changing the fare

okazon69

You can get quite creative if you want to stay on *A, for example this one:

Newark, NJ to Mexico City, Mexico: 14020 miles 61 hrs 18 min
Air Canada Air Canada Flight AC763 on an Embraer RJ-175 (jet) in business class
(breakfast)
Departs Newark, NJ (EWR) Thur, Dec 27 6:15a 1 hr 45 min
Arrives Toronto, Canada (YYZ) 8:00a
Layover in Toronto 14 hrs 10 min
Air Canada Air Canada Flight AC90 on a Boeing 767 (jet) in business class
Departs Toronto, Canada (YYZ) Thur, Dec 27 10:10p 10 hrs 10 min
Arrives Sao Paulo, Brazil (GRU) Fri, Dec 28 11:20a
Layover in Sao Paulo 12 hrs 20 min
United Airlines United Airlines Flight UA860 on a Boeing 767 (jet) in business class
(dinner, snack, movie)
Departs Sao Paulo, Brazil (GRU) Fri, Dec 28 11:40p 9 hrs 52 min
Arrives Washington, DC (IAD) Sat, Dec 29 6:32a
Layover in Washington 1 hr 53 min
United Airlines United Airlines Flight UA867 on a Boeing 757 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, movie)
Departs Washington, DC (IAD) Sat, Dec 29 8:25a 5 hrs 40 min
Arrives Los Angeles, CA (LAX) 11:05a
Layover in Los Angeles 1 hr 55 min
United Airlines United Airlines Flight UA817 on an Airbus A320 (jet) in business class
(lunch, movie)
Departs Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Sat, Dec 29 1:00p 3 hrs 33 min
Arrives Mexico City, Mexico (MEX) 6:33p

nawlins

Found available dates on Expedia out to the end of schedule November 2008. Quite a deal to Brazil.

paffendorf

ORD-YYZ-SCL-GRU-IAD-LAX-MEX
on ITA 531$ all incl.

yyzprincess

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