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axostech Aug 30, 2007 8:48 pm

Learning about Routing..
 
KUPP7ZN 562.00 1124.00 AA ROUTE:0002
VALID SINGLE CONNECT CITIES FROM: TPA TO SFO
BNA CHI DFW LAX MIA SEA SNA STL

ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS ON ROUTING:
NONE

If someone can show me how to plug this into Route Max, and what does "Single Connect" mean??

-Dave S.
Newbie Extraordinair

[And yes I expected to be corrected at least three different times for such a lame question ;) ]

mikeyyz Aug 31, 2007 12:50 am

I think Single Connect means you can only make one connection? :) (through any of those cities)

ancienthills Aug 31, 2007 1:14 am


[And yes I expected to be corrected at least three different times for such a lame question ]
That is pretty funny. I feel the same way sometimes.

apoivre Aug 31, 2007 2:38 am

Route maximizer seems to support this type of routing rules. Just don't forget to set your maximum number of segments per trip to 2 manually.

P.S. Amazingly, TPA-SFO non-stop seems to be the exact same distance of 2393 miles as TPA-DFW-SFO.

axostech Aug 31, 2007 6:18 am

Routing Info continued..
 
Thanks for all the replies, I thought that is what it meant, but I saw a thread where someone was using multiple connections (and one where the person used the standby rule to change the routing rules entirely.. go figure) so I wanted to make sure..

I'm trying to maximize my miles for a challenge, and ITA lists both MIA and LAX as legs that can be added, but on AA.com I lose the fare when I go thru more than one city (thought it might be a bug, until I checked the fare rules) now I'm in need of a few thousand more miles :( Need 3700+ each way..)

-Dave
AKA HopingToGoPlatinumSoon


Originally Posted by apoivre (Post 8325271)
Route maximizer seems to support this type of routing rules. Just don't forget to set your maximum number of segments per trip to 2 manually.

P.S. Amazingly, TPA-SFO non-stop seems to be the exact same distance of 2393 miles as TPA-DFW-SFO.


hw711 Aug 31, 2007 7:00 am


Originally Posted by axostech (Post 8324343)
[And yes I expected to be corrected at least three different times for such a lame question ;) ]

I'd be more worried about posting in the right forum.

axostech Aug 31, 2007 7:10 am


Originally Posted by hw711 (Post 8325939)
I'd be more worried about posting in the right forum.

Fair enough, what's the best forum for this and I'll request a moderator to move it?

I thought this was as good as "any", because I am trying to find a mileage run deal, and this is an issue I come up with.. I've read the tutorials but I'm getting conflicting information [ITA says one thing (upto 3 connects), actual route suggests only 1 connect, AA.com allows 2 connects but ups to the next highest fare etc..]

-Don'tHateTheQuestion..HateThePoster ;)

jestabillo Aug 31, 2007 7:12 am


Originally Posted by axostech (Post 8325791)
I'm trying to maximize my miles for a challenge, and ITA lists both MIA and LAX as legs that can be added, but on AA.com I lose the fare when I go thru more than one city (thought it might be a bug, until I checked the fare rules) now I'm in need of a few thousand more miles :( Need 3700+ each way..)

AA counts the points not the miles for the Gold and Platinum challenge. Why do you need more miles for your challenge instead? In any case and if you don't mind flying in Y, check the TPA-MIA-SFO-MIA-TPA routing $240 AI which yield 3585 points or 6170 miles. Do three of this and you will become a Platinum when points are counted.

There is availability for 9/21-9/22 and other dates as well. I might try RSW-MIA-SFO on the 9/22 to get an upgrade to Business now that I am a PLAT. :D

Good luck.

axostech Aug 31, 2007 7:20 am

Best Routing / MR to SFO from TPA (via MIA)
 
Thanks Bro,

I totally agree, but the time out of the office for 3 trips is more expensive than the F/C Fair (about 522 O/W according to AA.com) so for a total to Plat cost of about 2400 (my wife is going with me and she's in the challenge too) I can get the 10kpts..
6700*1.5>10k, and the ticket costs about 1200, so that's a great single trip to platinum at least with my work constraints, plus I need to go to SFO in the next 6 weeks on biz.. So I really need a way to max the mileage out to >8401 for the whole trip.. (I'll have 1600+ pts from a Costa Rican trip next weekend..)

BTW, what are you doing out in Frisco that weekend?

We should get a thread started on posting business related events calendars so we can all know where the tax deductions are around the US/World..

:p
-Dave S.




Originally Posted by jestabillo (Post 8325996)
AA counts the points not the miles for the Gold and Platinum challenge. Why do you need more miles for your challenge instead? In any case and if you don't mind flying in Y, check the TPA-MIA-SFO-MIA-TPA routing $240 AI which yield 3585 points or 6170 miles. Do three of this and you will become a Platinum when points are counted.

There is availability for 9/21-9/22 and other dates as well. I might try RSW-MIA-SFO on the 9/22 to get an upgrade to Business now that I am a PLAT. :D

Good luck.


hw711 Aug 31, 2007 8:00 am


Originally Posted by axostech (Post 8325986)
Fair enough, what's the best forum for this and I'll request a moderator to move it?

I thought this was as good as "any", because I am trying to find a mileage run deal, and this is an issue I come up with.. I've read the tutorials but I'm getting conflicting information [ITA says one thing (upto 3 connects), actual route suggests only 1 connect, AA.com allows 2 connects but ups to the next highest fare etc..]

-Don'tHateTheQuestion..HateThePoster ;)

Mileage Run Deals forum is for discussion of actual (existing or newly discovered) deals. MR questions/requests should go to the Mileage Run Discussion forum. For more details, read the sticky (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=667587).

margarita girl Aug 31, 2007 9:02 am


Originally Posted by hw711 (Post 8326235)
Mileage Run Deals forum is for discussion of actual (existing or newly discovered) deals. MR questions/requests should go to the Mileage Run Discussion forum. For more details, read the sticky (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=667587).


For those pressed for time, why not just read the Forum Description? :D


Mileage Run Deals
The place to post airfare deals conducive to mileage running, including possible pricing errors and unusually low fares. Note: Weekly or other regularly posted fare sales are generally not considered unusually good deals.

Mileage Run Discussion
Discussion of methods to maximize miles and/or points either through trips dedicated to no other reason than the miles/points, or through creative alteration of trips to extend their earning capacity in often unique ways.

axostech Aug 31, 2007 9:25 am

**Moderator: Please move this to the Mileage Run Discussion forum..
 
That's 3, although I feel happy because I got 3 for the wrong placement of the question, rather than the question itself..

Eternal Optimist,
Dave



Originally Posted by margarita girl (Post 8326571)
For those pressed for time, why not just read the Forum Description? :D


nako Aug 31, 2007 9:30 am


Originally Posted by mikeyyz (Post 8325067)
I think Single Connect means you can only make one connection? :) (through any of those cities)

This is not correct -- it is likely, looking at the complete routing rules (not the truncated form that EF shows), that a valid routing will involve more than one city.

IIRC, "single connect" means that, were there a single connection between the origin and destination, it would have to be in one of those cities. There is nothing that says that the routing cannot involve more than one city on the list, but EF's routing rules aren't going to help you determine what cities may be used in conjunction with one another or in what order.

Mike

axostech Aug 31, 2007 9:35 am

Ah, really?
 
Awesome,

Thanks for the feedback Mike, explains what I saw on AA/ITA..

Now I have to ask, if the routing info on EF is basically useless, what are the good reasons not to cancel my membership b4 the 5 days is up.. :confused:

I mean, between SeatGuru and SeatFinder/SeatCounter, what's the difference? I was personally willing to toss $10/mo to anyone who can keep me from having to fake-book a flight on Expedia to check the routing rules (unless anyone has a kewl url/script idea)..^

-Dave



Originally Posted by nako (Post 8326733)
This is not correct -- it is likely, looking at the complete routing rules (not the truncated form that EF shows), that a valid routing will involve more than one city.

IIRC, "single connect" means that, were there a single connection between the origin and destination, it would have to be in one of those cities. There is nothing that says that the routing cannot involve more than one city on the list, but EF's routing rules aren't going to help you determine what cities may be used in conjunction with one another or in what order.

Mike


ed1 Aug 31, 2007 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by apoivre (Post 8325271)
Route maximizer seems to support this type of routing rules. Just don't forget to set your maximum number of segments per trip to 2 manually.

P.S. Amazingly, TPA-SFO non-stop seems to be the exact same distance of 2393 miles as TPA-DFW-SFO.

That's why I'd try to go through SEA, or at least ORD (CHI), maybe both if it will let you.

EDIT:
Since I had this written when I lost internet access this morning, I didn't read what nako said, although I suspected that was the case. Check ITA or check if AA.com has a multi-city option like nwa.com has. I'd still try to work SEA into it, because it would add a lot of mileage to the mix. MIA is good for a minimum segment mileage from TPA, but working in SEA would be the best thing. You might have to look at what cities connect to MIA and SEA and then SEA and SFO if you can't go directly between them. Maybe an AS code share to LAX or SFO.

Tclin Aug 31, 2007 12:58 pm


Originally Posted by ed1 (Post 8327825)
That's why I'd try to go through SEA, or at least ORD (CHI), maybe both if it will let you.

Forget SEA. The KUP fares usually don't allow AS metal although it's one of valid connecting points. Check flight restrictions.


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