[FARE GONE] Wickedly Low Biz Class Fare from YYZ to LCA (Cyprus) on AZ (Alitalia)
#3706
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Originally Posted by HeathrowGuy
Here are the relevant rules from IATA - Section 2 covers ticketing:
http://www.iata.org/NR/ContentConnec...ments_5_01.pdf
http://www.iata.org/NR/ContentConnec...ments_5_01.pdf
Uh oh. Take a look at section 2.2, article 4.1. It says that "Should you change your itinerary or dates of travel, this may impact the fare to be paid." (emphasis mine) It looks like we're SOL as far as itin changes go without repricing. Unless there's some other provision that makes an exception for this, which it doesn't look like there is. So even if a date change is possible, they can hit us with the fare difference. This is why, while technically allowed, date changes aren't allowed, unless of course you want to pay an extra 2800 USD.
#3707
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Originally Posted by Travel Man
And here comes again the question that I already postet twice but did not get an answer:
Why would a date change not be possible?
I never ever bought a business class ticket that was not allowed to change dates!
Why would a date change not be possible?
I never ever bought a business class ticket that was not allowed to change dates!
#3708
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Originally Posted by HeathrowGuy
Monitor Airfare and Catch Filing Errors Immediately
Wednesday April 12, 12:30 pm ET
"We originally developed our FareChecker solution for our consumer site (http://www.farecompare.com) and in the process recognized that fare alerts can be even more important to the carriers," commented Rick Seaney, CEO. "Based on our current algorithms, we are confident we can identify any and all fare mistakes."
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060412/nyw088.html?.v=52
Wednesday April 12, 12:30 pm ET
"We originally developed our FareChecker solution for our consumer site (http://www.farecompare.com) and in the process recognized that fare alerts can be even more important to the carriers," commented Rick Seaney, CEO. "Based on our current algorithms, we are confident we can identify any and all fare mistakes."
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060412/nyw088.html?.v=52
NUTS!!!

P.S. Heathrowguy, thanks for the post here. Perhaps you could place this in the Farecompare Mysteries thread as well. I'm sure your post will get buried in a couple of hours.
#3710
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Originally Posted by section2.2, article 4.1
Should you change your itinerary or dates of travel, this may impact the fare to be paid."
Originally Posted by coolw12
It looks like we're SOL as far as itin changes go without repricing. Unless there's some other provision that makes an exception for this, which it doesn't look like there is.
There are no day/date restrictions or advance purchase requirements in the DRTCA9 fare rules -- either the original rules or the new rules put in place after these fares were ticketed (which thus should not apply to these fares).
#3711
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Very interesting, but ...
Originally Posted by dico
Interesting CBC Radio interview with a guy with whom I work... here's the link to listen (MP3 format):
http://www.whatwetalkedaboutatlunch...._interview.mp3
-dr
http://www.whatwetalkedaboutatlunch...._interview.mp3
-dr
#3713
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I called Alitalia today to get seat assignments for my four tickets purchased on Cheaptickets.com. I found that one res had been cancelled, which was the fourth ticket I had purchased that early Wednesday morning... must have been within the time that the cancellations took place. But I still have 3 res ticketed and with seat assignments issued by Alitalia. My question now is have they performed a service on this ticket? I know this question has been batted around before.
Anyway, what I'm thinking about doing is trying to offer to cancel one confirmed trip in exchange for a date change on the other two I still have confirmed. This IS in the orignal fare rules, but I know they have changed them. When I asked Alitalia to change Anyone successful yet in getting date changes or having them stick to the origonal rules?
CF
Anyway, what I'm thinking about doing is trying to offer to cancel one confirmed trip in exchange for a date change on the other two I still have confirmed. This IS in the orignal fare rules, but I know they have changed them. When I asked Alitalia to change Anyone successful yet in getting date changes or having them stick to the origonal rules?
CF
#3714
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Originally Posted by gleff
(emphasis mine)
Not so fast, coolw12. Date changes may affect fare paid because date changes may run afoul of advance purchase requirements or day/date restrictions as contained in the fare rules.
There are no day/date restrictions or advance purchase requirements in the DRTCA9 fare rules -- either the original rules or the new rules put in place after these fares were ticketed (which thus should not apply to these fares).
Not so fast, coolw12. Date changes may affect fare paid because date changes may run afoul of advance purchase requirements or day/date restrictions as contained in the fare rules.
There are no day/date restrictions or advance purchase requirements in the DRTCA9 fare rules -- either the original rules or the new rules put in place after these fares were ticketed (which thus should not apply to these fares).
#3715
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Originally Posted by CART_Flagman
Anyway, what I'm thinking about doing is trying to offer to cancel one confirmed trip in exchange for a date change on the other two I still have confirmed. This IS in the orignal fare rules, but I know they have changed them. When I asked Alitalia to change Anyone successful yet in getting date changes or having them stick to the origonal rules?
CF
#3716
Join Date: Aug 2004
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D-class sold out - I have been put in economy
My booking has been reinstated
but one of the legs on Cyprus Airways is showing up in economy. I called Orbitz and they have told me that D-class on that flight is sold out. As a result, Alitalia is not willing to upgrade my class and has put me in coach. So it seems that Alitalia is making no provision for protecting D-class availability, and if D-Class is sold out by the time they reinstate your ticket, you will be flying in economy


#3717
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Originally Posted by HeathrowGuy
No matter what, I wouldn't try to "bargain" with them - you have a right to every ticket you purchased, and I highly doubt that AZ would agree to such a generous arrangement anyways (would probably just cancel the ticket and leave you with the original dates on the others).
I second your opinion. ^ There is no reason to bargain as we have D class @:-)
#3718
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Originally Posted by bacan
My booking has been reinstated
but one of the legs on Cyprus Airways is showing up in economy. I called Orbitz and they have told me that D-class on that flight is sold out. As a result, Alitalia is not willing to upgrade my class and has put me in coach. So it seems that Alitalia is making no provision for protecting D-class availability, and if D-Class is sold out by the time they reinstate your ticket, you will be flying in economy 


I would certainly not sit in Y...for sure not over the pond.I'll be kicking and screaming if I ever get my tickets!
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Originally Posted by JMR
Something is wrong with the audio. Whenever the journalist or the travellor say the word "about" it sounds weird.
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#3720
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Originally Posted by bacan
My booking has been reinstated
but one of the legs on Cyprus Airways is showing up in economy. I called Orbitz and they have told me that D-class on that flight is sold out. As a result, Alitalia is not willing to upgrade my class and has put me in coach. So it seems that Alitalia is making no provision for protecting D-class availability, and if D-Class is sold out by the time they reinstate your ticket, you will be flying in economy 

