[PREM FARE GONE] Mad-scl biz $280 return
#811
Join Date: Jul 2021
Programs: BAEC Silver, FlyingBlue Gold
Posts: 37
Thanks for your feedback - I appreciate it.
None of the above cases represents my situation though. I have a confirmed ticket with the OTA and LATAM but missing the coupons. Now the question is about who has deleted them. Strong evidence that IBERIA has done so. I did not call for cancelation. But Iberia says - "You can not fly that ticket but we have not touched it." LATAM same. OTA same. Ticket under airport control. Noone can touch it.
Flight next Tuesday.
Intersting case.
None of the above cases represents my situation though. I have a confirmed ticket with the OTA and LATAM but missing the coupons. Now the question is about who has deleted them. Strong evidence that IBERIA has done so. I did not call for cancelation. But Iberia says - "You can not fly that ticket but we have not touched it." LATAM same. OTA same. Ticket under airport control. Noone can touch it.
Flight next Tuesday.
Intersting case.
#812
Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 37
Generally that's 120 days after you were to receive the service (or received a product). So the limit is irrelevant until after the flight date. In addition, if the poster has a UK card, the S75 protection has a 6 year limit. I personally never had any issues buying flights/hotels 9 months in advance, then not able to use it/cancelled, chasing the merchant for a couple of months and then initiating the chargeback. Let's not confuse people here.
#813
Booking.com tells me "in this case your flights were cancelled by the airlines and not by us." Important terminology: flights cancelled. Nothing about a so-called error. To me, this means the situation falls squarely within EC261/2004 and I'm entitled to the provisions of Article 8, as megaloman mentioned earlier.
#814
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Madrid
Programs: IB+ Emerald (Platino), M&M Senator (Gold), Meliá Rewards Platino, NH Silver
Posts: 429
I paid slightly more than that, cc charged, etickets received, booking available and showing ok on IB website, so how did you find it was cancelled? Any thing I should be on the lookout for? Flight is still a couple of months out, but I’ll have (at some point) to start organizing the trip
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#815
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 820
Just an aside here… I know que sera, sera with this deal, but I haven’t been able to locate a ticket number - 045 or otherwise, when checking IB, AY or RJ… only the 6 digit reference for IB & Ref for LA (the latter is no longer recognised by the website).
I’ve tried both on the apps and websites for the above airlines - any tips on how I can find this please?
I’ve tried both on the apps and websites for the above airlines - any tips on how I can find this please?
#817
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 820
Thanks Tropikey, you know I must have looked at the ‘manage my booking’ tabs a half a dozen times or more and failed to find it every time - have just found it under passenger details on IB!
#818
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: In between BRU, AMS, DUS and LUX...
Programs: AF/KL Plat, BA Gold, TK Silver, IHG Platinum, MR Gold, HH Gold, A-Club Silver, Hertz PC
Posts: 981
I just realised that the desktop version of Tripcase still shows my etickets under the Documents section. 'OK to fly' status for all coupons. Unless 'ok to fly' is not an actual coupon status this means that LA only cancelled their segment (in my case RIO-SCL) and did not do anything to the ticket and IB segments.
Last edited by palmanfr; Jun 21, 22 at 1:55 am
#819
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MCI
Posts: 165
Just an aside here… I know que sera, sera with this deal, but I haven’t been able to locate a ticket number - 045 or otherwise, when checking IB, AY or RJ… only the 6 digit reference for IB & Ref for LA (the latter is no longer recognised by the website).
I’ve tried both on the apps and websites for the above airlines - any tips on how I can find this please?
I’ve tried both on the apps and websites for the above airlines - any tips on how I can find this please?
oh nevermind refreshed and saw you got it
#820
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: In between BRU, AMS, DUS and LUX...
Programs: AF/KL Plat, BA Gold, TK Silver, IHG Platinum, MR Gold, HH Gold, A-Club Silver, Hertz PC
Posts: 981
Thanks for your feedback - I appreciate it.
None of the above cases represents my situation though. I have a confirmed ticket with the OTA and LATAM but missing the coupons. Now the question is about who has deleted them. Strong evidence that IBERIA has done so. I did not call for cancelation. But Iberia says - "You can not fly that ticket but we have not touched it." LATAM same. OTA same. Ticket under airport control. Noone can touch it.
Flight next Tuesday.
Intersting case.
None of the above cases represents my situation though. I have a confirmed ticket with the OTA and LATAM but missing the coupons. Now the question is about who has deleted them. Strong evidence that IBERIA has done so. I did not call for cancelation. But Iberia says - "You can not fly that ticket but we have not touched it." LATAM same. OTA same. Ticket under airport control. Noone can touch it.
Flight next Tuesday.
Intersting case.
Personally I am waiting for some feedback from IB on my girlfriends ticket, and will try to call priceline to know more about the ticket status, but as I expect both answers to be bs, I will file a claim to AESA, the Spanish enforcement body for EC 261/2004 ruling. It may take a while but the situation needs to be clarified for sure. Some will say that we do not have a valid ticket or whatever, but a ticket number that is issued and sticks for a few days at least, and a credit card which is charged is a valid contract to me. I mean come on, what else do we need ? A picture of me and the CEO of IAG holding my ticket ? The ticket to be signed with the blood of LATAM revenue management director to certify it is valid ?
#821
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Denmark
Programs: TK Elite
Posts: 10,006
Sorry, but this is not the way Spanish/civil law works. If the airline explains that this is a mistake fare (fare way too low) and it is held that pax knew this or ought to have known it as the price was much lower than normal/comparable biz tickets, then the ticket will be void and not binding for the airline, i.e. there was no formation of a valid contract/ticket regardless that you received ticket No etc.
#822
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 561
Booking.com tells me "in this case your flights were cancelled by the airlines and not by us." Important terminology: flights cancelled. Nothing about a so-called error. To me, this means the situation falls squarely within EC261/2004 and I'm entitled to the provisions of Article 8, as megaloman mentioned earlier.
After waiting for a bit, you'd need to contact the 1st operating carrier where you're flight in cancelled and request them to be rebooked under EU261.
If they decline, you can go through the Spanish EU261 enforcement body:
https://www.seguridadaerea.gob.es/en.../cancelaciones
I doubt they'll do anything thou, so next step would be to sue in Spain then.
#823
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Posts: 2,457
Correct, if the airline / merchant has not informed you that your booking was cancelled due to a pricing error / system error / ... and only the flight is cancelled, you're protected by EU261. I'd still wait a bit to see if they do send you an email about an error fare.
After waiting for a bit, you'd need to contact the 1st operating carrier where you're flight in cancelled and request them to be rebooked under EU261.
If they decline, you can go through the Spanish EU261 enforcement body:
https://www.seguridadaerea.gob.es/en.../cancelaciones
I doubt they'll do anything thou, so next step would be to sue in Spain then.
After waiting for a bit, you'd need to contact the 1st operating carrier where you're flight in cancelled and request them to be rebooked under EU261.
If they decline, you can go through the Spanish EU261 enforcement body:
https://www.seguridadaerea.gob.es/en.../cancelaciones
I doubt they'll do anything thou, so next step would be to sue in Spain then.

#824
Sorry, but this is not the way Spanish/civil law works. If the airline explains that this is a mistake fare (fare way too low) and it is held that pax knew this or ought to have known it as the price was much lower than normal/comparable biz tickets, then the ticket will be void and not binding for the airline, i.e. there was no formation of a valid contract/ticket regardless that you received ticket No etc.
I think you may be skipping over some important parts. There are 3 elements to the doctrine of mistake in contract law. First, one of the parties made a mistake as to a term of the contract. Second, the non-mistaken party knew or ought to have known of the mistake. And third, the non-mistaken party deliberately worked to avoid the mistake being learned of. Critically, the onus is on the party claiming mistake to prove those elements. It can't simply say 'It was a mistake. Goodbye'. Similarly with void ab initio. The party wanting to void a contract still has to justify and prove its case. Admittedly, the airline (or OTA) will get away with simply saying so unless held to account.
As for "normal/comparable", FlyerTalk is filled with examples of such, including much cheaper, comparable (or better) fares.
Correct, if the airline / merchant has not informed you that your booking was cancelled due to a pricing error / system error / ... and only the flight is cancelled, you're protected by EU261. I'd still wait a bit to see if they do send you an email about an error fare.
After waiting for a bit, you'd need to contact the 1st operating carrier where you're flight in cancelled and request them to be rebooked under EU261.
If they decline, you can go through the Spanish EU261 enforcement body:
https://www.seguridadaerea.gob.es/en.../cancelaciones
I doubt they'll do anything thou, so next step would be to sue in Spain then.
After waiting for a bit, you'd need to contact the 1st operating carrier where you're flight in cancelled and request them to be rebooked under EU261.
If they decline, you can go through the Spanish EU261 enforcement body:
https://www.seguridadaerea.gob.es/en.../cancelaciones
I doubt they'll do anything thou, so next step would be to sue in Spain then.
#825
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: In between BRU, AMS, DUS and LUX...
Programs: AF/KL Plat, BA Gold, TK Silver, IHG Platinum, MR Gold, HH Gold, A-Club Silver, Hertz PC
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Sorry, but this is not the way Spanish/civil law works. If the airline explains that this is a mistake fare (fare way too low) and it is held that pax knew this or ought to have known it as the price was much lower than normal/comparable biz tickets, then the ticket will be void and not binding for the airline, i.e. there was no formation of a valid contract/ticket regardless that you received ticket No etc.