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[PREM FARE GONE] Mad-scl biz $280 return

Old Jun 17, 22, 7:58 am
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
This doesn't mean that much. I routinely see PE or J priced below economy, all depends on inventory, route and dates.
Correct. I have many examples where we have flown First Class to the Caribbian for Ł700 there was the special fare to Bogota last year, there was USA for 500 USD in business and and and

Even today you can find on the BA site Business is sometimes cheaper than Premium and Economy more expensive than Premium.
Is this a mistake? Surely not, just yield management.
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Old Jun 17, 22, 8:00 am
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Originally Posted by Dralexus
I would like to just share this from the flash sale.
Are you assuming here that Iberia filed a mistake fare in economy class for their direct flight between MAD and SCL ? That price for the IB level of service is clearly an error !
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Old Jun 17, 22, 8:00 am
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Originally Posted by Dralexus
I would like to just share this from the flash sale.
What is your point? Clearly there was low inventory on that economy sector and only business class was on flash sale.
After some research it appears that yesterday was Fiesta del Corpus Christi, it would make sense for airlines to offer special fares ahead of such an important holiday.
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Old Jun 17, 22, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
What is your point? Clearly there was low inventory on that economy sector and only business class was on flash sale.
After some research it appears that yesterday was Fiesta del Corpus Christi, it would make sense for airlines to offer special fares ahead of such an important holiday.
Calm down chief, I have no point, just sharing what I saw yesterday as it might help someone here.
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Old Jun 17, 22, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by palmanfr
You're right - but only if your return is operated (not sure if needs to be marketed too) by a European carrier (such as IB). If your return flight(s) is/are on LA, not all your trip will be covered by EU 261/2004, but only the part departing the EU (+ connections on the same ticket, even if outside EU). Chilean consumer protection laws would apply for instance on a denied boarding for a LATAM flight SCL-MAD - and I am not sure if this protects you much...
All correct. (see ruling below attached for others).


Our case:
Return is operated by Iberia.
And I would be happy to board in Lima instead of taking the connection with LATAM from SCL.
So this should not be an issue.
We are going to visit Machu Picchu and will be in Lima anyhow.

-> Just a note on people stating problems re potential denied boarding in Chile by LATAM: In case of denied boarding by LATAM in SCL they will have no chance to win the case, since they can not state any mistake as a reason. (transport has already been done from MAD-SCL. The first half of the ticket is flown.) I can not see any basis for LATAM having any case here.

Info on seperate segments
The outbound and return flights are always considered as two separate flights even if they were booked as part of one reservation. In some cases the airline operating the flight (also known as the operating air carrier) may not be the same as the one from which you bought your ticket. In case of any difficulties only the airline which operates the flight can be held responsible. In cases where an airline hires (under a wet lease) an aircraft including crew from another airline, the airline which hires the aircraft has operational responsibility for the flight and is regarded as the operating airline under EU rules (specifically Regulation 261/2004).

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Old Jun 17, 22, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by Dralexus
Calm down chief, I have no point, just sharing what I saw yesterday as it might help someone here.
Who could it possibly help?
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Old Jun 17, 22, 8:06 am
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Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto
Who could it possibly help?
Any LATAM staff lurking here?
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Old Jun 17, 22, 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by tr3k
Why is there no valid ticket?
If no binding contract has been formed due to mistake fare and pax knew/ought to know this, the ticket is not valid (regardless if issued/has ticket No.). Basic contract law.
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Old Jun 17, 22, 8:34 am
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Hello All,

I know there is a lot of emotion behind this thread and what will happen here. Please refrain from long protracted arguments regarding the EU rules etc. Please keep it civil.

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Old Jun 17, 22, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by SK AAR
If no binding contract has been formed due to mistake fare and pax knew/ought to know this, the ticket is not valid (regardless if issued/has ticket No.). Basic contract law.
I recall from studying contract law (in the distant past) the main 3 components being - offer, acceptance and consideration. All 3 were present, and (while I can't speak for others), I certainly accepted the offer in good faith and duly paid for it.

As someone who searches for airfares continuously and buys dozens of airline tickets annually, I've seen fares high and low, and have absolutely no way (nor desire) to second guess the reasoning of the other party. They made the offer voluntarily, and I accepted it voluntarily. The contract was properly formed.

Any insinuation about "mistake fare" that passenger "ought to know" about is just that - pure speculation.
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Old Jun 17, 22, 8:42 am
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Originally Posted by SK AAR
If no binding contract has been formed due to mistake fare and pax knew/ought to know this, the ticket is not valid (regardless if issued/has ticket No.). Basic contract law.
There is a binding contract. According to the LATAM terms and conditions
https://www.latamairlines.com/gb/en/...itions/general

For OTAs - it should be their problem then to discuss this with LATAM if in doubt.

Prices and fares published on the website:
".. Prices and fares published on the website: The Company assumes that the fares published on the website are correct, so it will assume the responsibility for any error..."

ryandc99 - My last comment on this here in the thread. Should all be quite clear anyhow.
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Old Jun 17, 22, 8:46 am
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Old Jun 17, 22, 9:10 am
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All this wasted effort and stress, pointless debates, in the end we'll all either go or not go

The finding of the fare and the ensuing wait are supposed to be fun guys!!
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Old Jun 17, 22, 9:13 am
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Originally Posted by seantheman
All this wasted effort and stress, pointless debates, in the end we'll all either go or not go

The finding of the fare and the ensuing wait are supposed to be fun guys!!
How are we supposed to pass the time in the meantime, then?
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Old Jun 17, 22, 9:24 am
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Moan about the economy, fuel prices and hyper inflation?
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