[PREM FARE GONE] Mad-scl biz $280 return
Jun 17, 22, 6:00 am
#451
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Originally Posted by SK AAR
Let's kill this one right away.
There is no right to EU Reg. 261/04 comp. for cancellation more than 14 days out and this is not a denied boarding situation as there is no (valid) ticket.
There is no right to EU Reg. 261/04 comp. for cancellation more than 14 days out and this is not a denied boarding situation as there is no (valid) ticket.
Jun 17, 22, 6:04 am
#452
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Originally Posted by SK AAR
Let's kill this one right away.
There is no right to EU Reg. 261/04 comp. for cancellation more than 14 days out and this is not a denied boarding situation as there is no (valid) ticket.
There is no right to EU Reg. 261/04 comp. for cancellation more than 14 days out and this is not a denied boarding situation as there is no (valid) ticket.
Jun 17, 22, 6:04 am
#453
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Guys. Please stop spreading myths.
If EU261 applies, it doesn’t matter at all of the booking is cancelled 2 or 200 days before departure.
The 14 day limit is only relevant for additional compensation.
If they cancel, they will say that EU261 doesn’t apply.
If EU261 applies, it doesn’t matter at all of the booking is cancelled 2 or 200 days before departure.
The 14 day limit is only relevant for additional compensation.
If they cancel, they will say that EU261 doesn’t apply.
Jun 17, 22, 6:05 am
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Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory
There is a right to rerouting in case of cancellation under EU261, no matter when the cancellation occurs.
But obviously they would claim that EU261 doesn't apply because they'd say there was never a binding contract to begin with.
But obviously they would claim that EU261 doesn't apply because they'd say there was never a binding contract to begin with.
Jun 17, 22, 6:21 am
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Originally Posted by skunker
This is better than the KE/DL DPS thread in terms of drama. So many people who didn't know what they were signing up for bought into this because of FOMO.
I need more popcorn.
I need more popcorn.
Jun 17, 22, 6:33 am
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Blimey, I booked this from my hotel bed in SYD and I've just landed at LHR and pleased to say my booking is still alive in the IB app but no luck with what I think is the LA PNR on their app.
Booked through LastMinute and charge showing on my card.
Spike
Booked through LastMinute and charge showing on my card.
Spike
Jun 17, 22, 6:36 am
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Originally Posted by palmanfr
Just out of curiosity, what would you need to have a binding contract on this particular case ? The credit card has been charged and the e-ticket issued, sometimes hours after the booking was made. What else is needed ?
The problem is that IB/LA will claim that the contract is not valid/there is no valid ticket.
Jun 17, 22, 6:38 am
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Originally Posted by megaloman
I was specifically talking about scenario where pax is allowed to fly MAD-GRU and denied boarding for GRU-SCL.
Jun 17, 22, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by SK AAR
Point taken, but if LA has revoked/cancelled the ticket now there is no valid ticket for GRU-SCL on the day of traveling and LA will claim that they didn't deny boarding; the pax didn't have a valid ticket and consequently no right to board the flight.
Jun 17, 22, 6:51 am
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Originally Posted by palmanfr
I was especially thinking about a cancellations for the ones which fly this less than 14 days from now (not my case btw), or who could get denied boarding or downgrade at the airport. I assume there are some who are going to fly this fare this month still right ? And although a PNR alone is just not enough, if there is a 13 digit number matching the passenger name and itinerary the passenger flies and shows OK on the ticket, it would be considered as valid. They can still cancel the ticket but if they do so and the flight is less than 14 days out, EU 261/2004 should apply, but good luck having IB or LA honor this regulation.
In theory, IB or LA could let the pax travel on these tickets but downgrade to Economy at check-in against refund of 75% of the actual fare paid for the segment in question (according to EU Reg. 261/04)
Jun 17, 22, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by SK AAR
Correct. If the ticket is not cancelled and the pax show up at the airport only to be told that you can't travel on this ticket or you can travel only in economy, it will be denied boarding or downgrade respectively. But only comp. under EU Reg. 261/04 if this occurs for flights ex MAD or IB is the carrier, i.e. LA can cancel, deny boarding or downgrade for GRU-SCL operated by LA withouit being subject to EU Reg. 261/04 (unless LA also operated MAD-GRU as it would then be considered an ex. MAD ticket with LA)
Jun 17, 22, 6:59 am
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Originally Posted by megaloman
I get that - if the tickets get cancelled tomorrow, that's the end of the story. But that's not what we were discussing. SCLFlyer posted that LA had no intention to honour their own segments, so we were discussing what would happen if pax flew MAD-GRU and then got denied boarding for GRU-SCL - at this point it's hard to argue pax had an invalid ticker or had no ticket.
For any IB issued tickets, I suppose LA would have no/little incentive to deny a pax boarding because LA would get (full) payment from IB for the legs operated by LA?
