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#496
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 14
I just received this email from the DOT. I'm sure its just a formality, but I really didn't expect any type of response. Its nice to know they are keeping track of complaints and monitoring for patterns.
This responds to your communication regarding Delta Airlines. The U.S. Department of Transportation seeks to ensure that all airline passengers are treated fairly. Complaints from consumers are helpful to us in determining whether the airlines are in compliance with our rules and to track trends or spot areas of concern that warrant further action.
Based on the information you have provided your complaint appears to fall under the Department's rules. We will forward your complaint to the airline and ask the company to respond directly to you with a copy to us. Airlines are required to acknowledge receipt of a consumer complaint within 30 days and provide a substantive response to the complainant within 60 days. We will review the airline's response. Due to the unprecedented number of complaints we have received in recent months, we are unable to accept telephone calls and are not able to respond promptly to email inquiries regarding specific issues in each individual's case.
If our review of your complaint and the response from the company discloses a potential violation of our rules, we may pursue enforcement action. Generally, we pursue enforcement action on the basis of a number of complaints which may indicate a pattern or practice of violating our rules. Your complaint may be among those considered and may lead to appropriate enforcement action including the assessment of civil penalties. However, we have no authority to order compensation for individual complainants.
We have entered your complaint in our industry monitoring system, and it will be counted among the number of complaints filed against this airline in our monthly Air Travel Consumer Report. This report allows consumers and air travel companies to compare the complaint records of individual airlines and tour operators. The data in this report also serve as a basis for rulemaking, legislation and research. Consumer information for air travelers, including the Air Travel Consumer Report and Fly-Rights, a Consumer's Guide to Air Travel, can be found on our website: www.transportation.gov/airconsumer. Thank you for taking the time to contact us.
Sincerely,
Kimberly C. Hargett
United States Department of Transportation
Office of Aviation Consumer Protection
[email protected]
Case Number: KC2022060180
This responds to your communication regarding Delta Airlines. The U.S. Department of Transportation seeks to ensure that all airline passengers are treated fairly. Complaints from consumers are helpful to us in determining whether the airlines are in compliance with our rules and to track trends or spot areas of concern that warrant further action.
Based on the information you have provided your complaint appears to fall under the Department's rules. We will forward your complaint to the airline and ask the company to respond directly to you with a copy to us. Airlines are required to acknowledge receipt of a consumer complaint within 30 days and provide a substantive response to the complainant within 60 days. We will review the airline's response. Due to the unprecedented number of complaints we have received in recent months, we are unable to accept telephone calls and are not able to respond promptly to email inquiries regarding specific issues in each individual's case.
If our review of your complaint and the response from the company discloses a potential violation of our rules, we may pursue enforcement action. Generally, we pursue enforcement action on the basis of a number of complaints which may indicate a pattern or practice of violating our rules. Your complaint may be among those considered and may lead to appropriate enforcement action including the assessment of civil penalties. However, we have no authority to order compensation for individual complainants.
We have entered your complaint in our industry monitoring system, and it will be counted among the number of complaints filed against this airline in our monthly Air Travel Consumer Report. This report allows consumers and air travel companies to compare the complaint records of individual airlines and tour operators. The data in this report also serve as a basis for rulemaking, legislation and research. Consumer information for air travelers, including the Air Travel Consumer Report and Fly-Rights, a Consumer's Guide to Air Travel, can be found on our website: www.transportation.gov/airconsumer. Thank you for taking the time to contact us.
Sincerely,
Kimberly C. Hargett
United States Department of Transportation
Office of Aviation Consumer Protection
[email protected]
Case Number: KC2022060180
#497
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA GS, Hyatt Globalist, Virtuoso Travel Agent, Commercial Pilot
Posts: 1,969
1) Those that had started trips before the tickets were canceled would have been allowed to complete travel as originally ticketed. (This seems to be the most common and there is definitely a contingent of people that book for departure ASAP intentionally because of it.)
2) Those people would still be unable to check-in at the airport despite theoretically having a valid ticket and reservation.
3) Those tickets would be canceled mid-trip even if they successfully flew the first segment. I recall a SWISS fare a few years back where people successfully flew the first segment but once they reached ZRH they were given the option of a full refund or to continue their journey in Economy.
Last edited by Sykes; Jun 15, 22 at 6:59 pm
#498
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP, AS 75K, Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,817
#499
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
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Yeah. I had this happen once when a Canadian car rental agency incorrectly charged me some multi-hundred dollar fee. I called them, they reversed it, but after forex, I was out a couple dollars. A quick call to Chase saying "I didn't authorize the transaction, and they have subsequently refunded it" got them to credit the difference.
#500
Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: Top Tier with all 3 alliances
Posts: 8,091
#502
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 12,921
Mine says redeem by June 16 2023.
Got my two vouchers though, which I'm assuming is partner - me for one ticket, and we won't get another 400 dollars for the second ticket.
Got my two vouchers though, which I'm assuming is partner - me for one ticket, and we won't get another 400 dollars for the second ticket.

#507
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Multiple locations
Programs: AAdvantage ExPlat LT Gold, BA Silver, Aegean Star Gold
Posts: 4,598
Pretty much any possibility you can think of. On past error fares I've seen each of the following:
1) Those that had started trips before the tickets were canceled would have been allowed to complete travel as originally ticketed. (This seems to be the most common and there is definitely a contingent of people that book for departure ASAP intentionally because of it.)
2) Those people would still be unable to check-in at the airport despite theoretically having a valid ticket and reservation.
3) Those tickets would be canceled mid-trip even if they successfully flew the first segment. I recall a SWISS fare a few years back where people successfully flew the first segment but once they reached ZRH they were given the option of a full refund or to continue their journey in Economy.
1) Those that had started trips before the tickets were canceled would have been allowed to complete travel as originally ticketed. (This seems to be the most common and there is definitely a contingent of people that book for departure ASAP intentionally because of it.)
2) Those people would still be unable to check-in at the airport despite theoretically having a valid ticket and reservation.
3) Those tickets would be canceled mid-trip even if they successfully flew the first segment. I recall a SWISS fare a few years back where people successfully flew the first segment but once they reached ZRH they were given the option of a full refund or to continue their journey in Economy.
I know a FTer who got in on the 4-mile HKG deal back in 2012 and flew it in F from HKG to NYC.
I flew many RGNs and got stopped by LX in 2013, we made it to one of the highest courts in Canada, sadly didn't win that one.
In 2014 I was part of the Qatar SGN-PNH party (small claims allowed me to fly it), never underestimate the legal channels...
BA FRA-KUL in 2016, most got cancelled but I survived which was a nice way to try the 380s/789 in F...
I mostly post these days with a lil JFKEZE Jr making it hard to jump on these fares, as an old timer if you can sue, SUE!
The cost is under 40 bucks and worth it, especially if in NYC where most airlines have an office where they can be served...
Just my two cents as someone who's been there , sued that hahaha 🤣😂
#508
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,290
I mostly post these days with a lil JFKEZE Jr making it hard to jump on these fares, as an old timer if you can sue, SUE!
The cost is under 40 bucks and worth it, especially if in NYC where most airlines have an office where they can be served...
Just my two cents as someone who's been there , sued that hahaha 🤣😂
#509
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Join Date: May 2015
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Refunds just posted in my Chase account.
That ends this thread for me, got a 400 USD "profit" on a 1-week loan of 10'000 dollars to Delta. We'll see what they respond to the DOT complaint, but I'm happy with the outcome as-is.
That ends this thread for me, got a 400 USD "profit" on a 1-week loan of 10'000 dollars to Delta. We'll see what they respond to the DOT complaint, but I'm happy with the outcome as-is.