{prem fare gone}: AF/KL/DL/VS: BUD-US from $750 R/T
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#2446
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 117
AF/KLM make it real hard to make flight changes. The agents always have to go to the back office to see if there’s any reprice despite me telling them I had a fully flex fare that should allow me to change dates on my return flight without repricing as long as I stick with original booking class. This just eats up 2-3 days each time I wait for them to recalc.
#2447
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 261
I also just rebooked my budapest-lax trip from June/August to October/January with Delta (second date change). Told them I wanted a class to class date change because of covid in hungary, got transferred to the international desk, paid $28 extra taxes (switched from bud-cdg-lax-cdg-bud to bud-ams-sea-lax-cdg-bud b/c I class availability was limited), and am all set. I did have a 5 hour schedule change but did not mention it. I was told any future changes will incur repricing and fare difference. I'm betting Hungary will be open by Oct - they've got 5 vaccines approved, have near the highest % vaccinated in EU.
I used the ITA matrix to find I class flights, and then used delta.com to see if they were actually available. Nice that delta.com tells you booking class. If you see Z class, that means I class is available (Z is below I). Very very very slow, but free.
I used the ITA matrix to find I class flights, and then used delta.com to see if they were actually available. Nice that delta.com tells you booking class. If you see Z class, that means I class is available (Z is below I). Very very very slow, but free.
#2449
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Posts: 409
Booked Delta through Expedia US (I know....). Took a while to convince the agent of the flex ticket conditions. Was able to select identical flights in I class in Jan 2022 but failed - the message the agent received was 'the airline is finalizing its schedule and cannot not accept the HNL-SLC segment at the moment. Try again later.'. Not sure if that was true or if the agent just wanted to get rid of me

#2452
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: AMS
Programs: BAEC Silver, Flying Blue Silver, TK M&S Nobody
Posts: 1,468
#2453
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 346
#2454
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: AMS
Programs: BAEC Silver, Flying Blue Silver, TK M&S Nobody
Posts: 1,468
#2455
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 261
#2456
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: BER
Programs: BAEC, M&M
Posts: 521
Yes I able to use the Matrix now to find "i" class, but whenever I check with Delta website it only show as [OZ} & [OC] on the payment pay. Did I check it correctly with Delta? i try to run the whole month of October but nothing show up with Delta for "i" class even thought Matrix show it available?
#2458
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Posts: 409
Managed to speak/chat with 4 Expedia-agents today. None of them were unable to change my flights, they came with different reasons (like: "AMS-BUD has to be operated by Delta!" & "We don't have any availability after September"). Was going to call Delta to ask whether they could take over the ticket against a fee. To my surprise, the UK agent was super helpful and accommodating. Took over the ticket without charge, made a new PNR, put in all my flights for Jan 2022, checked the fare rules (I class, HIP) & sent the new itin for confirmation to the pricing desk. He said this normally would be unneccary, but since I had an invol change last autumn, a manual check is needed now. Promised me I would hear from Delta within 24 hours (hopefully a new e-ticket).
#2459
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Belgium
Posts: 221
Another update on my 006 ticket AMS-HNL-OGG-LIH-LAX-AMS (managed to add intra-Hawaii flights in the beginning and change departure city to AMS when
Hungary closed their borders)
I’ve been trying to postpone my outbound to HNL (scheduled May 15) for the last few weeks with no success. Yesterday I chatted with a DL rep who took a long time to read the fare rules. He told me it was impossible to change my outbound without flying a segment first and that I should wait and see if DL extends the flexible change waiver.
He then said the fare allowed unlimited stopovers and he could change the other flights, as long as we didn’t touch the AMS-HNL portion. So I asked if he could add a stopover in NYC as well when flying LAX-AMS and he agreed.
I now have a great ticket with a few days in 3 different Hawaiian islands, a couple weeks in LA and the week before Christmas in NYC, but chances are slim I’ll be able to fly it if they don’t extend the waiver :-(.
Time will tell.
Edit: A question just came to mind. If I route my outbound through CDG or LHR (so AMS-CDG-LAX-HNL for example), will they let me board the AMS-CDG flight as a EU citizen if I’m not allowed into the US? That would give me the option to move the rest of the outbound to the future then.
Hungary closed their borders)
I’ve been trying to postpone my outbound to HNL (scheduled May 15) for the last few weeks with no success. Yesterday I chatted with a DL rep who took a long time to read the fare rules. He told me it was impossible to change my outbound without flying a segment first and that I should wait and see if DL extends the flexible change waiver.
He then said the fare allowed unlimited stopovers and he could change the other flights, as long as we didn’t touch the AMS-HNL portion. So I asked if he could add a stopover in NYC as well when flying LAX-AMS and he agreed.
I now have a great ticket with a few days in 3 different Hawaiian islands, a couple weeks in LA and the week before Christmas in NYC, but chances are slim I’ll be able to fly it if they don’t extend the waiver :-(.
Time will tell.
Edit: A question just came to mind. If I route my outbound through CDG or LHR (so AMS-CDG-LAX-HNL for example), will they let me board the AMS-CDG flight as a EU citizen if I’m not allowed into the US? That would give me the option to move the rest of the outbound to the future then.
#2460
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: AMS
Programs: BAEC Silver, Flying Blue Silver, TK M&S Nobody
Posts: 1,468
Edit: A question just came to mind. If I route my outbound through CDG or LHR (so AMS-CDG-LAX-HNL for example), will they let me board the AMS-CDG flight as a EU citizen if I’m not allowed into the US? That would give me the option to move the rest of the outbound to the future then.
However, it sounds like you're going direct AMS-US at the moment so getting that European bounce might be hard. I think the schedules are probably relatively firm for May already and the agent correctly told you that the first fare component is not changeable before departure. If you're scheduled on a flight that's still reading ok - especially if it's one which is operating now - I think your chances are slim.
*Edit: pretty sure we've had at least one person try to modify after the first segment without success - can't remember who.
Edit the Second: Missed the actual question - no, I don't think you'd be allowed to board in Amsterdam if it was a connection [less than 24 hours] though it's possible that an overnight connection would be ok.
Last edited by etiene; Apr 6, 21 at 9:54 am