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December:
31: STR-HEL (princesstravel, topperchris+1)

January:
1: HEL-CAN (princesstravel, topperchris+1)
9: CAN-HEL (princesstravel)
10: HEL-STR (princesstravel)
10 STR-HEL (beyounged)
11 HEL-CAN (beyounged)
12: CAN-HEL (topperchris+1)
13: HEL-STR (topperchris+1)

February:
02 CAN-HEL (beyounged)
03 HEL-STR (beyounged)
04: STR-HEL(jarza)
05: HEL-CAN (jarza)
09: CAN-HEL (jarza)
10: HEL-STR (jarza)
11: STR-HEL (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
12: HEL-CAN (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
18: AY1452 STR-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
18: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
21 STR-HEL (beyounged)
21: HAJ-HEL (nilsrtw)
22 HEL-CAN (beyounged, nilsrtw)
23: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
23: AY1453 HEL-STR (ChocolateFactory)
27: CAN-HEL (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
28: HEL-STR (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)

March:
01: CAN-HEL (nilsrtw)
02: HEL-HAJ (nilsrtw)
06: AY1460 HAJ-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
07: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
15: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
16: AY1459 HEL-HAJ (ChocolateFactory)
19 CAN-HEL(beyounged)
20 HEL-HAJ (beyounged)
27 HAJ-HEL (beyounged)
28 HEL-CAN (beyounged)

April:
08: BLQ-HEL (sam2511, IrishStephen+3, mster+1,)
08: HEL-CAN (sam2511)
08: HEL-HKG (mster+1)
09: HEL-HKG (IrishStephen+3)
14: HKG-HEL (mster+1)
15: HEL-BLQ (mster+1, HypnoticSpector)
15: BLQ-HEL (mster+1)
15: HEL-HKG (mster+1)
15: HEL-CAN (HypnoticSpector)
17: STR-HEL (topperchris+1)
18: HEL-CAN (topperchris+1)
21: HKG-HEL-BLQ (sam2511 + beyounged, mster+1)
21: AY1452 STR-HEL (Nancy)
21: HKG-HEL (IrishStephen+3)
22: AY97 HEL-CAN (Nancy)
22: AY BLQ-HEL-HKG (piotrger, mster+1)
22: AY BLQ-HEL (dimitriyremerov+1)
22: HEL-HKG (NextWhiteDeath)
23: AY101 HEL-HKG (dimitriyremerov+1)
28: AY100 HKG-HEL (Nancy, piotrger, NextWhiteDeath)
28: AY102 HKG-HEL (mster+1)
29: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (Nancy, mster+1)
29: AY BLQ-HEL-HKG (NGX)
30: AY102 HKG-HEL (dimitriyremerov+1)


May:
02: AY1774 BLQ-HEL (Majuki)
03: AY101 HEL-HKG (Majuki)
03: CAN-HEL (topperchris+1)
04: HEL-STR (topperchris+1)
05: AY HKG-HEL (NGX)
06: BLQ-HEL (Carnaby, Calchas, Woodbinerich)
06: HEL-HKG (Carnaby, Calchas, Woodbinerich, NGX)
08: STR-HEL (justin1123)
09: BLQ-HEL (sydneyguy1234)
10: HEL-HKG (sydneyguy1234)
10: AY1458 HAJ-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
10: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
10: HKG-HEL (Calchas)
11: HEL-CAN (justin1123)
12: HKG-HEL (Woodbinerich)
12: CAN-HEL (HypnoticSpector)
13: AY100 HKG-HEL (Majuki)
13: BLQ-HEL-CAN (Danusa86)
13: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (Majuki, Woodbinerich)
13: AY1772 BLQ-HEL (MKBshaw, spiiker+1)
13: AY97 HEL-CAN (MKBshaw, spiiker+1)
15: HKG-HEL (Carnaby)
16: HEL-BLQ (Carnaby)
16: BLQ-HEL (surbitonflyer+1, HypnoticSpector, Isochronous)
17: AY 97 STR-CAN (Lizie)
17: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
17: AY1459 HEL-HAJ (ChocolateFactory)
17: HEL-HKG (surbitonflyer+1, HypnoticSpector, Isochronous)
19: AY98 CAN-HEL (MKBshaw, spiiker+1, Danusa86)
20: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (MKBshaw, spiiker+1, Danusa86);
21: STR-HEL (ICPUI, multivitamin, w00tzen, zumabeach)
22: AY97 HEL-CAN (multivitamin, w00tzen, ICPUI)
23: BLQ-HEL (joeyzzz)
23: HEL-CAN (zumabeach)
24: HEL-HKG (joeyzzz)
24: CAN-HEL (ICPUI)
25: HEL-STR (ICPUI)
26: HKG-HEL (surbitonflyer+1, sydneyguy1234)
27: AY1772 BLQ-HEL (skycruiserNL, flightgrabber)
27: AY101 HEL-HKG (skycruiserNL, flightgrabber)
27: HEL-BLQ (surbitonflyer+1, sydneyguy1234)

30: CAN-HEL (joeyzzz)
30: HEL-BLQ (joeyzzz)
30: BLQ-HEL (armouredant+1, seantheman)
31: HEL-HKG (armouredant+1, seantheman)
31: CAN-HEL (multivitamin, w00tzen)

June:
01: HEL-STR (multivitamin, w00tzen)
02: HKG-HEL (skycruiserNL)
02: CAN-HEL (justin1123)
03: BLQ-HEL (elpuerto)
03: HEL-HKG (elpuerto)
03: HEL-BLQ (skycruiserNL)
03: HEL-STR (justin1123)
09: HKG-HEL (elpuerto, seantheman)
10: HKG-HEL (armouredant+1)
10: HEL-BLQ (armouredant+1, seantheman)
10: BLQ-HEL (skycruiserNL)
10: HEL-CAN (skycruiserNL)
12: AY100 HKG-HEL (flightgrabber)
13: AY1773 HEL-BLQ (flightgrabber)
13: HEL-BLQ (elpuerto)
14: CAN-HEL (zumabeach)
15: HEL-HAJ (zumabeach)
16: CAN-HEL (skycruiserNL)
16: HKG-HEL (Isochronous, HypnoticSpector)
17: HEL-BLQ (skycruiserNL, Isochronous, HypnoticSpector)
18: STR-HEL (davem4, thebigben)
19: HEL-CAN (davem4, thebigben)
24: BLQ-HEL (GetSetJetSet)
24: HEL-CAN (GetSetJetSet, sluneckov)
25: CAN-HEL (davem4, thebigben,)
26: HEL-STR (davem4, thebigben)
28: CAN-HEL (sluneckov)
28: CAN-HEL (GetSetJetSet)

September:
18: STR-HEL (kiez)
19: HEL-CAN (kiez)
26: CAN-HEL (kiez)
26: HEL-STR (kiez)
30: BLQ-HEL (davistev)
30: HEL-HKG (davistev)

October:
07: HKG-HEL (davistev)
07: HEL-BLQ (davistev)

November:
04: DUS-HEL (kevinflyaway+1)
04: HEL-HKG (kevinflyaway+1)
08: HKG-HEL (kevinflyaway+1)
08: HEL-DUS (kevinflyaway+1)

February 2023
24: ZRH-HEL (flylikelinz+1)
24: HEL-HKG (flylikelinz+1)

March 2023
05: HKG-HEL (flylikelinz+1)
05: HEL-ZRH (flylikelinz+1)



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Old Jan 25, 21, 1:13 pm
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Originally Posted by keitherson View Post
Can't make any voluntary changes unless there's a cancellation is what the last few Finnair chat representatives have told me. Entire thing reprices, ticket is out of validity, etc
Originally Posted by ck_cologne View Post
Same issue here, went to the international page, went to my booking. Only one button available "Cancellation"
Refresh my memory, was this ticket ever "Voluntary Changeable" at any given moment due to waiver?
I always remember the original ticketing rules was rather strict "No Change, No Refund, No Nothing"

Every single time I've made a re-issue was "Invol" due to schedule changes, which has continued to save my Bacon

Originally Posted by GordonMacPherson View Post
I called AY UK on either 13 or 14 Jan to change the flight departing 15th returning earlying Feb to coming xmas returning new year with no issues to HKG.

Wanted to change destination to japan but had not been successful for the last 4 months.
Another data point to report back.
Method Used - US Chat

Rebooked to End of Schedule, still IT - HKG.
Took the agent about 15 mins to rebooked, auto-rebook apparently accepted the last schedule change even though I didn't agree to it.
And that change was flying +4 days later, uh... I don't think so

I just keep changing origins between MXP and FCO and Finnair has never blinked an eye
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Old Jan 25, 21, 8:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Short hair Francis View Post
Refresh my memory, was this ticket ever "Voluntary Changeable" at any given moment due to waiver?
I always remember the original ticketing rules was rather strict "No Change, No Refund, No Nothing"
I'm wondering if this will go longer than the CX Vietnam fare.
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Old Jan 26, 21, 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Majuki View Post
I'm wondering if this will go longer than the CX Vietnam fare.
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣

Hard to say, its got a shot. 😀

CX Vietnam was 1/1/2019 original ticketing.
AY was 10/27/2019, at least for my tickets.

However, CX is only rebooking for the 1st few days when the route gets reinstated (repeatedly deferred) 🤣.
AY HKG is moreso 99.7% of the world is not qualified for entry, despite HEL-HKG is still running 2x weekly right now.

AY also seems to be willing to do INVOLs and look the other way on alot of rules provided your origin/destination country remains the same.
- Add/Remove HEL >24 hrs stopovers
- Switch different IT cities
- Change from Round trip to Open jaw A-B-C to Open Jaw C-B-A

I say AY tickets have a chance of lasting longer, if you catch the right time to use an INVOL and travel curtain starts drawing down.
Way happier to have my hands clean with CX and just need to deal with AY going forward.

And of course one's willingness to embrace HK's Ministry of Love
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Old Jan 26, 21, 11:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Short hair Francis View Post
AY was 10/27/2019, at least for my tickets.
I refunded at the earliest opportunity - made some money on the exchange rate too!
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Old Feb 3, 21, 8:29 am
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Originally Posted by Short hair Francis View Post
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣

Hard to say, its got a shot. 😀

CX Vietnam was 1/1/2019 original ticketing.
AY was 10/27/2019, at least for my tickets.

However, CX is only rebooking for the 1st few days when the route gets reinstated (repeatedly deferred) 🤣.
AY HKG is moreso 99.7% of the world is not qualified for entry, despite HEL-HKG is still running 2x weekly right now.

AY also seems to be willing to do INVOLs and look the other way on alot of rules provided your origin/destination country remains the same.
- Add/Remove HEL >24 hrs stopovers
- Switch different IT cities
- Change from Round trip to Open jaw A-B-C to Open Jaw C-B-A

I say AY tickets have a chance of lasting longer, if you catch the right time to use an INVOL and travel curtain starts drawing down.
Way happier to have my hands clean with CX and just need to deal with AY going forward.

And of course one's willingness to embrace HK's Ministry of Love
since AY admits HK is a seperate country from china, there is not a lot of places you can reroute your destination outside of Hong Kong. (Allegedly someone moved to BKK or sth when travel restrictions were first initiated last year)
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Old Feb 17, 21, 6:18 am
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Originally Posted by keitherson View Post
Can't make any voluntary changes unless there's a cancellation is what the last few Finnair chat representatives have told me. Entire thing reprices, ticket is out of validity, etc
I had a chat last week and was told by the rep that even if one is not allowed to enter the country due to restrictions, AY wont offer a free rebooking (anymore?). Only a refund may be possible.

So was happy to receive a "schedule change" mail from AY yesterday. They seem to have cancelled AY101 to HKG for whole 2021. Shouldnt be a problem to rebook to 2022 now? (or is there a max ticket validity?)
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Old Feb 17, 21, 8:26 am
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The validity of the ticket is twelve months. That's what it says in small print. I was denied a rebooking based on this regulation. It also didn't help to refer to the EU rules and laws. I was simply ignored. My impression was that they now want to get rid of these tickets and also do not want to waste time and nerves to constantly worry about the rebooking.
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Old Feb 17, 21, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by claus4321 View Post
The validity of the ticket is twelve months. That's what it says in small print. I was denied a rebooking based on this regulation. It also didn't help to refer to the EU rules and laws. I was simply ignored. My impression was that they now want to get rid of these tickets and also do not want to waste time and nerves to constantly worry about the rebooking.
I really don't get that, we are the only pax on the world who don't want a refund.. Then there are invol changes which means EC261 and they ignore it..

Just let us rebook, so we can fly and they get to keep the cash; so everyone is happy.
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Old Feb 18, 21, 3:24 am
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Originally Posted by claus4321 View Post
The validity of the ticket is twelve months. That's what it says in small print. I was denied a rebooking based on this regulation. It also didn't help to refer to the EU rules and laws. I was simply ignored. My impression was that they now want to get rid of these tickets and also do not want to waste time and nerves to constantly worry about the rebooking.
Twelve month validity is an IATA regulation, not AY’s choice.

It’s also a technical irrelevance, because AY can reissue (replace) the ticket in this situation though.
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Old Feb 18, 21, 3:31 am
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Originally Posted by Calchas View Post
Twelve month validity is an IATA regulation, not AYs choice.
Overcome by re-issuing a new ticket?

I keep hearing this point and yet there are plenty of reports from various airlines of people getting bookings moved well beyond a year from when they were originally made (me included) and yet the sky hasnt fallen in despite this IATA rule?
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Old Feb 20, 21, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
Overcome by re-issuing a new ticket?

I keep hearing this point and yet there are plenty of reports from various airlines of people getting bookings moved well beyond a year from when they were originally made (me included) and yet the sky hasnt fallen in despite this IATA rule?
It is a rule on the ticket but reissuing the ticket resets its validity in the system. It is just a limitation on that specific ticket. Reissuing is a airline decision as the airline can set whatever price they like and whatever flexibility they want to offer.
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Old Feb 21, 21, 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by NextWhiteDeath View Post
It is a rule on the ticket but reissuing the ticket resets its validity in the system. It is just a limitation on that specific ticket. Reissuing is a airline decision as the airline can set whatever price they like and whatever flexibility they want to offer.
I get that, but an INVOL change is an INVOL change so EC261 applies.
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Old Feb 22, 21, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by Granite64 View Post
I get that, but an INVOL change is an INVOL change so EC261 applies.
Still depends on the airline. Some airlines will allow you to extend the trip after the validity ends. While other will say that you can do it till end of schedule. It might not be completely compatible with EU 261 but to make them go past the validity would push you to take legal action.
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Old Feb 22, 21, 5:09 pm
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
Overcome by re-issuing a new ticket?

I keep hearing this point and yet there are plenty of reports from various airlines of people getting bookings moved well beyond a year from when they were originally made (me included) and yet the sky hasnt fallen in despite this IATA rule?
Indeed, it can be fixed with a reissue -- what I intended to say is, I think that's where this idea of a twelve month rule comes from.
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Old Feb 28, 21, 2:16 pm
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The Live Chat on the Finland site was really hard for me, it was so easy before but I was able to change it to the end of October via the UK site.

The Finnish Live Chat told me that I have to rebook in the original departure and destination, even thought my ticket has been rebooked in MUC-HKG already for about 2 times. I then asked her, what should I do if I already flown one of the flights and then she replied back that she would have to consult with her supervisor!!! She also said that this policy has been approved by her supervisor and there is no need to escalate the issue to the upper level! She told me to accept the new flights (still MUC-HKG) that have been rebooked for me or get the full refund!!!
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