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December:
31: STR-HEL (princesstravel, topperchris+1)

January:
1: HEL-CAN (princesstravel, topperchris+1)
9: CAN-HEL (princesstravel)
10: HEL-STR (princesstravel)
10 STR-HEL (beyounged)
11 HEL-CAN (beyounged)
12: CAN-HEL (topperchris+1)
13: HEL-STR (topperchris+1)

February:
02 CAN-HEL (beyounged)
03 HEL-STR (beyounged)
04: STR-HEL(jarza)
05: HEL-CAN (jarza)
09: CAN-HEL (jarza)
10: HEL-STR (jarza)
11: STR-HEL (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
12: HEL-CAN (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
18: AY1452 STR-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
18: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
21 STR-HEL (beyounged)
21: HAJ-HEL (nilsrtw)
22 HEL-CAN (beyounged, nilsrtw)
23: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
23: AY1453 HEL-STR (ChocolateFactory)
27: CAN-HEL (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
28: HEL-STR (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)

March:
01: CAN-HEL (nilsrtw)
02: HEL-HAJ (nilsrtw)
06: AY1460 HAJ-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
07: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
15: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
16: AY1459 HEL-HAJ (ChocolateFactory)
19 CAN-HEL(beyounged)
20 HEL-HAJ (beyounged)
27 HAJ-HEL (beyounged)
28 HEL-CAN (beyounged)

April:
08: BLQ-HEL (sam2511, IrishStephen+3, mster+1,)
08: HEL-CAN (sam2511)
08: HEL-HKG (mster+1)
09: HEL-HKG (IrishStephen+3)
14: HKG-HEL (mster+1)
15: HEL-BLQ (mster+1, HypnoticSpector)
15: BLQ-HEL (mster+1)
15: HEL-HKG (mster+1)
15: HEL-CAN (HypnoticSpector)
17: STR-HEL (topperchris+1)
18: HEL-CAN (topperchris+1)
21: HKG-HEL-BLQ (sam2511 + beyounged, mster+1)
21: AY1452 STR-HEL (Nancy)
21: HKG-HEL (IrishStephen+3)
22: AY97 HEL-CAN (Nancy)
22: AY BLQ-HEL-HKG (piotrger, mster+1)
22: AY BLQ-HEL (dimitriyremerov+1)
22: HEL-HKG (NextWhiteDeath)
23: AY101 HEL-HKG (dimitriyremerov+1)
28: AY100 HKG-HEL (Nancy, piotrger, NextWhiteDeath)
28: AY102 HKG-HEL (mster+1)
29: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (Nancy, mster+1)
29: AY BLQ-HEL-HKG (NGX)
30: AY102 HKG-HEL (dimitriyremerov+1)

May:
02: AY1774 BLQ-HEL (Majuki)
03: AY101 HEL-HKG (Majuki)
03: CAN-HEL (topperchris+1)
04: HEL-STR (topperchris+1)
05: AY HKG-HEL (NGX)
06: BLQ-HEL (Carnaby, Calchas, Woodbinerich)
06: HEL-HKG (Carnaby, Calchas, Woodbinerich, NGX)
08: STR-HEL (justin1123)
09: BLQ-HEL (sydneyguy1234)
10: HEL-HKG (sydneyguy1234)
10: AY1458 HAJ-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
10: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
10: HKG-HEL (Calchas)
11: HEL-CAN (justin1123)
12: HKG-HEL (Woodbinerich)
12: CAN-HEL (HypnoticSpector)
13: AY100 HKG-HEL (Majuki)
13: BLQ-HEL-CAN (Danusa86)
13: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (Majuki, Woodbinerich)
13: AY1772 BLQ-HEL (MKBshaw, spiiker+1)
13: AY97 HEL-CAN (MKBshaw, spiiker+1)
15: HKG-HEL (Carnaby)
16: HEL-BLQ (Carnaby)
16: BLQ-HEL (surbitonflyer+1, HypnoticSpector, Isochronous)
17: AY 97 STR-CAN (Lizie)
17: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
17: AY1459 HEL-HAJ (ChocolateFactory)
17: HEL-HKG (surbitonflyer+1, HypnoticSpector, Isochronous)
19: AY98 CAN-HEL (MKBshaw, spiiker+1, Danusa86)
20: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (MKBshaw, spiiker+1, Danusa86);
21: STR-HEL (ICPUI, multivitamin, w00tzen, zumabeach)
22: AY97 HEL-CAN (multivitamin, w00tzen, ICPUI)
23: BLQ-HEL (joeyzzz)
23: HEL-CAN (zumabeach)
24: HEL-HKG (joeyzzz)
24: CAN-HEL (ICPUI)
25: HEL-STR (ICPUI)
26: HKG-HEL (surbitonflyer+1, sydneyguy1234)
27: AY1772 BLQ-HEL (skycruiserNL, flightgrabber)
27: AY101 HEL-HKG (skycruiserNL, flightgrabber)
27: HEL-BLQ (surbitonflyer+1, sydneyguy1234)

30: CAN-HEL (joeyzzz)
30: HEL-BLQ (joeyzzz)
30: BLQ-HEL (armouredant+1, seantheman)
31: HEL-HKG (armouredant+1, seantheman)
31: CAN-HEL (multivitamin, w00tzen)

June:
01: HEL-STR (multivitamin, w00tzen)
02: HKG-HEL (skycruiserNL)
02: CAN-HEL (justin1123)
03: BLQ-HEL (elpuerto)
03: HEL-HKG (elpuerto)
03: HEL-BLQ (skycruiserNL)
03: HEL-STR (justin1123)
09: HKG-HEL (elpuerto, seantheman)
10: HKG-HEL (armouredant+1)
10: HEL-BLQ (armouredant+1, seantheman)
10: BLQ-HEL (skycruiserNL)
10: HEL-CAN (skycruiserNL)
12: AY100 HKG-HEL (flightgrabber)
13: AY1773 HEL-BLQ (flightgrabber)
13: HEL-BLQ (elpuerto)
14: CAN-HEL (zumabeach)
15: HEL-HAJ (zumabeach)
16: CAN-HEL (skycruiserNL)
16: HKG-HEL (Isochronous, HypnoticSpector)
17: HEL-BLQ (skycruiserNL, Isochronous, HypnoticSpector)
18: STR-HEL (davem4, thebigben)
19: HEL-CAN (davem4, thebigben)
24: BLQ-HEL (GetSetJetSet)
24: HEL-CAN (GetSetJetSet, sluneckov)
25: CAN-HEL (davem4, thebigben,)
26: HEL-STR (davem4, thebigben)
28: CAN-HEL (sluneckov)
28: CAN-HEL (GetSetJetSet)

September:
18: STR-HEL (kiez)
19: HEL-CAN (kiez)
26: CAN-HEL (kiez)
26: HEL-STR (kiez)
30: BLQ-HEL (davistev)
30: HEL-HKG (davistev)

October:
07: HKG-HEL (davistev)
07: HEL-BLQ (davistev)

November:
04: DUS-HEL (kevinflyaway+1)
04: HEL-HKG (kevinflyaway+1)
08: HKG-HEL (kevinflyaway+1)
08: HEL-DUS (kevinflyaway+1)

February 2023
24: ZRH-HEL (flylikelinz+1)
24: HEL-HKG (flylikelinz+1)

March 2023
05: HKG-HEL (flylikelinz+1)
05: HEL-ZRH (flylikelinz+1)

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Jul 18, 2020, 6:46 pm

#1126

Granite64

Join Date: Feb 2014

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beyounged

it will accrue at D class, other programs have no idea what original fare basis it is, so you are not being tricked, just "reaccommodated" ;P
of course no matter what you do, the fare rules when booking applies.

Yes I already found out about that, so it's not 'that' bad

Anyway, i'm wondering what will happen when I can't get a visa for China even though I have no intention to visit China..

I hope restrictions on transiting via PVG will be lifted by then..

Jul 19, 2020, 12:45 am

#1127

beyounged

Join Date: Feb 2016

Location: YVR/LAX/PVG/TPE

Posts: 756

Quote:

Originally Posted by Granite64

Yes I already found out about that, so it's not 'that' bad

Anyway, i'm wondering what will happen when I can't get a visa for China even though I have no intention to visit China..

I hope restrictions on transiting via PVG will be lifted by then..

I will not bet on it opening for tourism before vaccine is widespread. China is getting increasingly isolationist and I strongly feel like the virus situation is a great excuse to further isolate.
You can always change your dates with no questions asked. You can also change to HKG I believe.

Jul 19, 2020, 1:46 am

#1128

sydneyguy1234

Join Date: Nov 2010

Location: Sydney

Programs: NH AMC, EY Guest Silver,MPC GO

Posts: 210

Quote:

Originally Posted by beyounged

But a day change will mostly trigger a fare difference? as the "original" I fare is now somehow remapped to R fare?

Last edited by sydneyguy1234; Jul 19, 2020 at 2:28 am

Jul 19, 2020, 2:05 am

#1129

KARFA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234

But a day change will mostly trigger a fare difference? as the "original" I fare is not somehow remapped to R fare?

If there is no I selling class available on the flight you choose to change to, then yes you do pay any fare difference. So choose carefully.

Jul 19, 2020, 4:49 am

#1130

ChocolateFactory

Join Date: Aug 2015

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Posts: 2,809

BS, you don’t pay a fare difference. At least not for invol changes.

Jul 19, 2020, 5:32 am

#1131

KARFA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory

BS, you don’t pay a fare difference. At least not for invol changes.

I assumed the question was about voluntary changes. Also if the flights are running but you can't travel that would be a voluntary change.

Voluntary changes are allowed by AY under their current guidelines, but fare differences are payable if same selling class isn't available.

https://www.finnair.com/en/flight-in...1-july-onwards

Quote:

CHANGES TO BOOKINGS FOR FLIGHTS TO BE OPERATED AFTER 1 JULY

If we haven’t cancelled your flight but you wish to cancel your reservation, the refund will be according to the ticket rule.
For bookings made latest on 31 August 2020, you can change your travel dates through Manage booking or our customer service without a change fee and travel within your ticket validity, if
- You made your booking via Finnair channels.
- You have a Finnair operated and marketed flight.
- There are available seats on your chosen new flight. It is good to know that if there is no availability in your original fare class for your new flight, you need to pay the fare difference between your original and new flight tickets.
- You make the change 7 days before the departure of your original flight. You need to select new dates for your travel when making the change. If you change your travel dates closer to your flight, the change conditions follow your original ticket rules.
Did you change your travel dates already once and would like to change them again? You can do it through Manage booking and travel within your ticket validity when the above-listed requirements are fulfilled. If you were unable to make the change online, please contact our customer service.

You are right to say if your flight is cancelled then you can change your travel dates until 31 May 2021, and there would be no change fees or fare difference. Same selling class is not required, and as long as there are seats on your chosen new flight in the same cabin class that would be sufficient.

Last edited by KARFA; Jul 19, 2020 at 5:40 am

Jul 19, 2020, 5:52 am

#1132

Granite64

Join Date: Feb 2014

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory

BS, you don’t pay a fare difference. At least not for invol changes.

Yes but is it invol? When I booked the original fare (to CAN) I had no intention to go to CAN, I just wanted to transit via CAN; but there was no COVID back then either... But now, there is no 144 TWOV and 'normal' visa's are really hard to get (and they are not cheap).

I shouldn't need a visa anyway for transit if I stay airside...

Last edited by Granite64; Jul 19, 2020 at 5:58 am

Jul 19, 2020, 6:00 am

#1133

KARFA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Granite64

Yes but is it invol? When I booked the original fare (to CAN) I had no intention to go to CAN, I just wanted to transit via CAN; but there was no COVID back then either... But now, there is no 144 TWOV and 'normal' visa's are really hard to get (and they are not cheap).

Anyway, I shouldn't need a visa anyway for transit if I stay airside...

yes it is a voluntary change if the flights are not cancelled but you can’t or won’t travel. There is no provision for a refund under EC261 just because you can no longer meet entry requirements of the booking destination. this is the gap that should be filled by your travel insurance policy.

I don’t know the current state of TWOV in China or whether you can just stay airside, clearly a lot of things have been restricted in the last few months.

Jul 19, 2020, 6:21 am

#1134

Granite64

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KARFA

I still have some time.., fingers crossed

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Jul 19, 2020, 8:40 am

#1135

sydneyguy1234

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KARFA

If there is no I selling class available on the flight you choose to change to, then yes you do pay any fare difference. So choose carefully.

Just made a further date change via online chat from OCT to next MAR, no questions and rebooking made in 5mins. still keeping outbound in D fare and inbound in R fare

the agent also mentioned travel date can change up yo 31MAY

Jul 19, 2020, 9:57 am

#1136

Granite64

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234

But was your flight cancelled? My flight is still scheduled..

Jul 19, 2020, 10:08 am

#1137

sydneyguy1234

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Granite64

But was your flight cancelled? My flight is still scheduled..

Negative, the original ticket was BLQ-HKG-BLQ in MAY, got canceled in APR, and changed into MXP-HKG-MXP which suppose to travel in OCT where all flights still show operate.

perhaps got luck or simply agent just ignore my travel date or something but got rebooked with a new ticket in 5 mins but ticket NVB/NVB is showing weird dates

Jul 19, 2020, 10:27 am

#1138

Calchas

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Location: London

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Granite64

When I asked that this meant that my flight was indeed a D class fare:

You've got the wrong end of the stick. Booked in D class does not mean a "D class" flexibility, never has done.

Flexibility is decided by the conditions attached to the fare. The booking code letter only determines availability. They are often correlated, but need not be.

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Jul 19, 2020, 10:30 am

#1139

Granite64

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234

I have a feeling you are very lucky haha, anyway just opened another chat on the AY website.

Asked what would happen if I can't transit via PVG, rep said that if I couldn't travel due to travel restrictions I should contact them within 14 days of departure (who would have thought) and that they can change the flight or give a refund.

Jul 19, 2020, 10:31 am

#1140

Granite64

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Calchas

Yes it's all clear to me now, thanks Calchas & KARFA for helping me out

Last edited by Granite64; Jul 19, 2020 at 5:57 pm