[PREM FARE GONE] SQ JFK-FRA(Eco)-FRA-SIN-JFK (Bus) from $2008
Apr 29, 2019, 3:07 pm
#256
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: LAS, ZQN
Programs: UA PP (2MM), BA gold
Posts: 2,198
This deal JFK-{FRA}-SIN-EUROPE-SIN-{FRA}-JFK on a single (=1) ticket for approx. US$ 1'400 in Y+, US$ 2'400 in C and US$ 10'600 in F is gone!
Not possible to book it that way, anymore. I already booked two trips myself. Never tried OTA’s, only SQ website.
The SQ website really is a PITA, nevertheless it always worked - until today.
That’s why I’m saying: SQ pulled the plug on this routing. I really wonder on how you still could assist?
Not possible to book it that way, anymore. I already booked two trips myself. Never tried OTA’s, only SQ website.
The SQ website really is a PITA, nevertheless it always worked - until today.
That’s why I’m saying: SQ pulled the plug on this routing. I really wonder on how you still could assist?
I must have been near the last of the tickets to be issued since it was done yesterday mid-day.
Apr 29, 2019, 10:14 pm
#257
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NY
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 122
The SQ website won't even allow me to search any of the multi-city trips I found last week so I think this may indeed be done.
Interestingly for me, when the original FRA deal disappeared I did the math on the perennial YYZ-LHR-HEL-SIN deal on BA/AY and decided to go for that instead. With the COS bonus, it's less flying but more miles (and lower CPM) for AS flyers! Plus it's A350 planes all the way, including BA's newest J seat.
Interestingly for me, when the original FRA deal disappeared I did the math on the perennial YYZ-LHR-HEL-SIN deal on BA/AY and decided to go for that instead. With the COS bonus, it's less flying but more miles (and lower CPM) for AS flyers! Plus it's A350 planes all the way, including BA's newest J seat.
Apr 30, 2019, 11:33 am
#258
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: NYC
Posts: 117
Your calculations are not quite correct. With Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan, direct flights like JFK-FRA-SIN and SIN-FRA-JFK that operate on the same flight number post on the Origin to Destination distance, not the sum of the distances of the individual segments. Since SQ25 & SQ26 are direct flights they will post to Mileage Plan as two segments only; JFK-SIN & SIN-JFK. From MileCalc, that distance is 9537 Miles each way, 19,074 total.
Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) and any Class of Service (COS) Bonus is both EQM & Redeemable Miles (RDM). The additional bonus is RDM only. SQ does not have a COS Bonus for D or U fare class tickets. SQ is generally not a good option for an AS Mileage Run. It certainly is a great fare with the flexibility though. The following spreadsheet shows how this routing would post to Mileage Plan for non-status and each Elite Tier in the Mileage Plan program.
James in Kelowna
Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM) and any Class of Service (COS) Bonus is both EQM & Redeemable Miles (RDM). The additional bonus is RDM only. SQ does not have a COS Bonus for D or U fare class tickets. SQ is generally not a good option for an AS Mileage Run. It certainly is a great fare with the flexibility though. The following spreadsheet shows how this routing would post to Mileage Plan for non-status and each Elite Tier in the Mileage Plan program.
James in Kelowna
Would you happen to know if the routing rules for Alaska are similar to Asiana, or would Asiana count the miles as JFK-FRA and FRA-SIN instead of JFK-SIN? Wondering if my booking would allow me to get Star Gold status with the trip I booked (JFK-FRA-SIN-FRA-SIN-FRA-JFK) with a D Fare.
Thank you!
May 4, 2019, 10:14 am
#259
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Hi James (@Flying for Fun) -
Would you happen to know if the routing rules for Alaska are similar to Asiana, or would Asiana count the miles as JFK-FRA and FRA-SIN instead of JFK-SIN? Wondering if my booking would allow me to get Star Gold status with the trip I booked (JFK-FRA-SIN-FRA-SIN-FRA-JFK) with a D Fare.
Thank you!
Would you happen to know if the routing rules for Alaska are similar to Asiana, or would Asiana count the miles as JFK-FRA and FRA-SIN instead of JFK-SIN? Wondering if my booking would allow me to get Star Gold status with the trip I booked (JFK-FRA-SIN-FRA-SIN-FRA-JFK) with a D Fare.
Thank you!
Aug 15, 2019, 11:20 am
#260
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MUC
Programs: Compulsory Traveller
Posts: 305
Has anyone tried to make a change to the booking after the first flight? I'm flying oneway JFK-(FRA)-SIN and 9 days later SIN-FRA and would like to change the SIN-FRA segment to a different date.
Do I read the ExpertFlyer fare rules correctly that this should be possible for a fee of 250 US$ using the fares in effect when the ticket was issued?
Do I read the ExpertFlyer fare rules correctly that this should be possible for a fee of 250 US$ using the fares in effect when the ticket was issued?
Sep 12, 2019, 12:06 am
#261
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: Delta DM, Hyatt Globalist
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Sep 13, 2019, 11:14 am
#262
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: AMS
Programs: KL PFL; BA Gold; A3 Silver; EY Silver; SU Silver
Posts: 2,488
My upcoming flights on SQ.com do not show my reserves seats (for the 'inbound' trip), however, do not allow to 'select' those too (errors out). The mobile app still shows the original seats I selected, and there was no equipment change or schedule change to the best of my knowledge. I guess to call is the only way to check if seats are actually assigned?
Sep 28, 2019, 9:51 am
#263
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So it did for me.
My upcoming flights on SQ.com do not show my reserves seats (for the 'inbound' trip), however, do not allow to 'select' those too (errors out). The mobile app still shows the original seats I selected, and there was no equipment change or schedule change to the best of my knowledge. I guess to call is the only way to check if seats are actually assigned?
My upcoming flights on SQ.com do not show my reserves seats (for the 'inbound' trip), however, do not allow to 'select' those too (errors out). The mobile app still shows the original seats I selected, and there was no equipment change or schedule change to the best of my knowledge. I guess to call is the only way to check if seats are actually assigned?
Sep 29, 2019, 5:58 am
#264
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tokyo
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As expected for a flight with the same flight number. FRA became a technical stop that doesn’t factor into mileage accrual.
Sep 29, 2019, 6:01 am
#265
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Hi James (@Flying for Fun) -
Would you happen to know if the routing rules for Alaska are similar to Asiana, or would Asiana count the miles as JFK-FRA and FRA-SIN instead of JFK-SIN? Wondering if my booking would allow me to get Star Gold status with the trip I booked (JFK-FRA-SIN-FRA-SIN-FRA-JFK) with a D Fare.
Thank you!
Would you happen to know if the routing rules for Alaska are similar to Asiana, or would Asiana count the miles as JFK-FRA and FRA-SIN instead of JFK-SIN? Wondering if my booking would allow me to get Star Gold status with the trip I booked (JFK-FRA-SIN-FRA-SIN-FRA-JFK) with a D Fare.
Thank you!
As expected for a flight with the same flight number and a layover (<24h). FRA became a technical stop that doesn’t factor into mileage accrual.
If you really need the additional miles, bake in a stopover (>24h) in FRA. Ticket reprice and change fees make it not worthy at all.
Oct 8, 2019, 1:19 pm
#266
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: AMS
Programs: KL PFL; BA Gold; A3 Silver; EY Silver; SU Silver
Posts: 2,488
So it did for me.
My upcoming flights on SQ.com do not show my reserves seats (for the 'inbound' trip), however, do not allow to 'select' those too (errors out). The mobile app still shows the original seats I selected, and there was no equipment change or schedule change to the best of my knowledge. I guess to call is the only way to check if seats are actually assigned?
My upcoming flights on SQ.com do not show my reserves seats (for the 'inbound' trip), however, do not allow to 'select' those too (errors out). The mobile app still shows the original seats I selected, and there was no equipment change or schedule change to the best of my knowledge. I guess to call is the only way to check if seats are actually assigned?
Nov 28, 2019, 7:44 am
#267
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bay Area
Programs: UA 1k now; AA (no status); HY Diamond; SPG Platinum
Posts: 707
So I just completed 4 out of 6 legs
SQ25 was full on 11/21. I arrived into Singapore at 6:25am. 9V-SKK has 2 restroom out or commission from JFK all the way to SIN. My seat 18A was little dirty with a hole in the carpet.
On sin-fra-sin- the flight was also completely full. I was in 17A both outbound and inbound. I was able to get boarding pass for both flight at Changi.
SQ26 arrived into FRA on time. I was out of customs at Frankfurt at 6:30. By 6:45am I was able to check in my new rimowa luggage (from world shop) with VAT refund completed.
I went to city center and bought a bag for my wife (store open at 10am). I was able to get back to terminal 1 by 10:40am. Made through the customs within 10 minutes. Did more shopping for wife and completed additional VAT refund at terminal 1. I made it back to the gate just as announcement for boarding is made.
all of the crew were very good this time around.
For $2471, I will get 31840 miles enough for me to stay as UA1K. I paid about $3000 less on my wife bags and cosmetics.
Overall quiet good trip as I was able to get 6 hours sleep on outbound and 7 hours on the inbound.
My new rimowa luggage
SQ25 was full on 11/21. I arrived into Singapore at 6:25am. 9V-SKK has 2 restroom out or commission from JFK all the way to SIN. My seat 18A was little dirty with a hole in the carpet.
On sin-fra-sin- the flight was also completely full. I was in 17A both outbound and inbound. I was able to get boarding pass for both flight at Changi.
SQ26 arrived into FRA on time. I was out of customs at Frankfurt at 6:30. By 6:45am I was able to check in my new rimowa luggage (from world shop) with VAT refund completed.
I went to city center and bought a bag for my wife (store open at 10am). I was able to get back to terminal 1 by 10:40am. Made through the customs within 10 minutes. Did more shopping for wife and completed additional VAT refund at terminal 1. I made it back to the gate just as announcement for boarding is made.
all of the crew were very good this time around.
For $2471, I will get 31840 miles enough for me to stay as UA1K. I paid about $3000 less on my wife bags and cosmetics.
Overall quiet good trip as I was able to get 6 hours sleep on outbound and 7 hours on the inbound.
My new rimowa luggage
Jan 6, 2020, 1:07 pm
#268
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: LAS, ZQN
Programs: UA PP (2MM), BA gold
Posts: 2,198
My first ticket where I have checked luggage and SQ in JFK said could not route bag tag: SQ 25 JFK-SIN and SQ 326 SIN-FRA. Ended up short checking to FRA on SQ 25. Will go to lost luggage in FRA and they will send email to FRA advising I will pick up next day on return from SIN.
Jan 7, 2020, 1:42 am
#269
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 478
My first ticket where I have checked luggage and SQ in JFK said could not route bag tag: SQ 25 JFK-SIN and SQ 326 SIN-FRA. Ended up short checking to FRA on SQ 25. Will go to lost luggage in FRA and they will send email to FRA advising I will pick up next day on return from SIN.
Wouldn't it be easier to go landside in SIN and re-check your bags from there? It's a 7-hours layover in SIN.
I will be flying two of these tickets in the next two weeks, HBO.
Jan 7, 2020, 2:14 am
#270
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: LAS, ZQN
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Yes, short checked on SQ25 to FRA. Was offered option to collect in SIN and recheck but did not want to: 1. in case mechanical delay, 2. bag is 20 kgs and I did not want to drag the wheeled duffel and recheck and go through security with my hand carry that has a lot of liquids (no precheck or Clear), 3. would require entering and leaving SIN (probably another stamp in passport which takes more space as I finish pages 1/2 way before expiration).
Forgot to say includes much chocolates requested by my grand daughter and therefore glad to have it stored in cold FRA.
SQ staff at JFK did print my BP for SQ326- they just could not get computer to give me a JFK-SIN-FRA bag tag.
Forgot to say includes much chocolates requested by my grand daughter and therefore glad to have it stored in cold FRA.
SQ staff at JFK did print my BP for SQ326- they just could not get computer to give me a JFK-SIN-FRA bag tag.
Last edited by zebranz; Jan 7, 2020 at 2:21 am