Dec 31, 2018, 9:41 pm
Last edit by: alexj7
CAUTION - TURNAROUND
"One customer did have issues. Wang Guanran, who documents his travels on hktravelblog.com, had his plans to travel to New York on Wednesday cut short when he was prevented from flying by immigration officials in Vietnam... he was detained by Vietnamese immigration officials, who said it was illegal to return to his city of origin while in transit." - Source:SCMP, 2 January 2019
Also https://rapidtravelchai.boardingarea...-direct-turns/
Visa Information: check out the Vietnam visa/VOA thread in the Asia forum. You can get either a visa on arrival where you get the stamp on arrival) or a "looseleaf" visa in advance from a VN Consulate in the US (which allows you to go straight to the immigration queue). There are sometimes lines for the VOA stamp and so the loosleaf approach can save you some time.
Seat Assignments
per NWPlatinum below - Cathay blocks out all seats except for 2D for some reason. I never understood the reasoning behind this but in any event just contact them for a seat assignment and they’ll let you have your choice. They like to block out seats for people with bassinets and babies. But you can usually get 2A, which is the best see if you’re solo traveler. Just say I want seat 2A and I’ll move if requested at the airport (never was asked to move)
Basic Visa Options for US Citizens
1. One month, one entry
2. One month, multiple entries
3. Three months, one entry
4. Three months, multiple entries
5. One year, multiple entries
Everyone needs an e-visa approval before boarding if they will enter the country. (e.g. clear customs). Connecting flights - even on separate tickets - do not require a visa IF IF IF the connecting airline has a counter in the transit area. (The airline may have their own rules.) Going back to the same country is not allowed without clearing customs first.
Expect the visa check at your point of departure. (Computer will flag your ticket.) The actual stamp is received on arrival (in most cases). (There is also the possibility of a visa insert with no need to go to 'visa on arrival'.)
Official Site: Embassy of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam in the United States
Lounge Access (Access Requirements)
JFK - AA Flagship First (F Departure)
ORD - British Airways Club / First Lounge T5 (J / F departures). AA Flagship lounge T3 (logistics in this post)
BOS
SFO - CX Lounge Terminal A (F or J Departure)
YVR - CX Lounge Gate 67
HKG
HAN - Song Hong Lounge (KA) or ACV/NIA Business Lounge (KA)
DAD
Current status:
- Deal is no longer active (can't book this anymore)
Mainstream media coverage:
- Cathay Pacific says it will honour first and business-class tickets sold in error in move that could cost it millions [SCMP, 2 January 2019]
- Cathay Pacific error sees $16,000 flights sold for $675 [The Guardian, 2 January 2019]
- Bloomberg article by Kyunghee Park
- South China Morning Post article by Danny Lee
- Follow up article from Danny Lee SCMP with individual anecdotes and analyst comments.
- Oriental Daily Hong Kong & Macao news article discussing the fare via lens of airline "mismanagement" (Chinese)
Post your trip dates and itinerary here:
Please use (+1) to denote you are in F and can guest someone (or more than 1 person) into the F lounges in HKG.
January:
1/9: KA 294 HAN-HKG - tonykline1947 (+1)
1/10: CX 888 HKG-YVR - tonykline1947 (+1)
1/18: KA 296 HAN-HKG - SOWK
1/19: CX 888 HKG-YVR - SOWK
1/21: KA 227 DAD-HKG - Governator
1/21: KA 227 DAD-HKG - usairchairman (+1)
1/21: CX 840 HKG-JFK - usairchairman (+1)
1/21: CX 846 HKG-JFK - Governator
1/22: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Governator
1/23: KA 220 HKG-DAD - Governator (won't fly this one)
1/23: CX5227 DAD-HKG rbAA
1/23: CX840 HKG-JFK rbAA (can guest at Wing FC or Pier FC as I have 5hrs+)
1/26: CX 227 DAD-HKG - Synd(+1)
1/26: CX 846 HKG-JFK - Synd(+1)
1/29 KA 227 DAD-HKG - miffSC
1/29 CX 846 HKG-JFK - miffSC
1/30: CX 831 JFK-HKG - Synd (+1)
1/30: CX 865 JFK - YVR - HKG - ss2k(+1) can guest someone at JFK Flagship dining (i think)
February:
2/1: CX 220 - HKG - DAD - Synd (+1) - will try not to fly this one
2/1: CX 220 - HKG - DAD - ss2k (+1) - will probably stay in DAD for couple of days if anyone wants to join
2/2: CX865 JFK-YVR-HKG rbAA (can guest at JFK AA FL FC)
2/3 - KA 227 - DAD-HKG - swgsword, Pochama
2/3 - CX 840 - HKG-JFK - Pochama
2/4 - CX 888 - HKG-YVR-JFK - swgsword (+1, also FL at JFK)
2/4: CX5220 HKG-DAD rbAA (tight connection :50 so no lounge time unless I misconnect)
2/10: CX 764 SGN-HKG - zebes
2/11: CX 806 HKG-ORD - zebes
2/15: CX 831 JFK-HKG - usairchairman (+1)
2/15: CX 812 HKG-BOS - AnttiV
2/16: KA 220 HKG-DAD - usairchairman (+1)
2/18 CX 872 HKG-SFO - princesakura (+1)
2/19: KA 296 HAN-HKG - IncaTrails
2/19: CX 812 HKG-BOS - IncaTrails
2/22: CX 811 BOS-HKG - AnttiV
March:
3/01: CX 807 ORD-HKG - zebes
3/01 CX ### HAN-HKG - billbligh (+3)
3/02 CX888 HKG-YVR (0100) billybligh(+3)
3/03: CX 767 HKG-SGN - zebes
3/03: CX 764 SGN-HKG - zebes
3/04: CX 806 HKG-ORD - zebes
3/05: CX1790 HAN-HKG - dordal
3/06: CX872 HKG-SFO - dordal
3/08: CX 873 SFO-HKG - princesakura
3/11: KA 223 DAD-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/12: CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK - SiempreBCNJFK
3/12: CX 865 YVR-HKG - SOWK
3/13: CX 1791 HKG-HAN - SOWK
3/14: CX 5227 DAD-HKG - Hudute
3/14: CX 840 HKG-JFK - Hudute
3/15: CX 5527 DAD-HKG - Frebay (+1)
3/15: CX 840 HKG-JFK - Frebay (+1)
3/15: CX 845 JFK-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/16: KA 228 HKG-DAD - SiempreBCNJFK
3/17: KA 227 DAD-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/17: CX 890 HKG-EWR - SiempreBCNJFK
3/18: CX 872 HKG-SFO - princesakura (+1)
3/20: CX ### HKG-JFK - tcormier (+2)
3/20: CX 888 HKG-(YVR)-JFK - captainstubing (+1)
3/22: CX 831 JFK-HKG - captainstubing
3/22: CX 840 HKG-JFK - jongesander (+1)
3/25: CX 899 EWR-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/26: KA 226 HKG-DAD - SiempreBCNJFK
3/26: CX 845 JFK-HKG - swgsword
3/27: KA 220 HKG-DAD - swgsword (+1)
3/27: KA ### HAN-HKG - Mauibaby2008
3/27: CX ### HKG-JFK - Mauibaby2008
3/28: CX 766 SGN-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/28: CX 846 HKG-JFK - SiempreBCNJFK
3/29: CX 5296 HAN-HKG - LHG
3/29: CX 872 HKG-SFO - LHG
3/29: CX 807 ORD-HKG - zebes
3/31: CX 767 HKG-SGN - zebes
April:
4/3 CX 845 JFK-HKG - miffSC
4/4 KA 220 HKG-DAD - miffSC
4/6 KA 294 HAN-HKG - frisbfreek
4/7 CX 830 HKG-JFK - frisbfreek (+1)
4/13: KA 294 HAN-HKG - bostonbali (+1)
4/13: KA 294 HAN-HKG - swgsword
4/14: CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK bostonbali (+1)
4/14: CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK swgsword (+1)
4/19: KA 298 HAN-HKG shek3112
4/19: CX 846 HKG-JFK shek3112 (+3)
4/19: CX 806 HKG-ORD Oshkosh105 (+1)
4/20: CX 807 ORD-HKG Oshkosh105
4/29: CX 845 JFK-HKG shek3112 (+3)
4/30: KA 299 HKG-HAN shek3112 (may change)
4/30: KA 221 DAD-HKG - driveswith (+1)
May:
5/1: CX 888 HKG-YVR - driveswith (+1)
5/1: CX 888 YVR-JFK - driveswith (+1)
5/8: CX 845 JFK-HKG - driveswith (+1)
5/8: KA 221 DAD-HKG - zip10001
5/8: CX 840 HKG-JFK - zip10001
5/10: CX 873 SFO-HKG - dordal
5/11: CX5297 HKG-HAN - dordal
5/11: KA 296 HAN-HKG - james_yuen (+1)
5/12: CX 888 HKG-YVR - james_yuen (+1)
5/12: CX 5294 HAN-HKG - dordal
5/13: CX 872 HKG-SFO - dordal
5/13: BA 28 HKG-LHR - driveswith (+1)
5/15 CX865 YVR-HKG - james_yuen (+1)
5/16 KA 299 HKG-HAN - james_yuen (+1)
5/19: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Frebay (+1)
5/20: CX 5224 HKG-DAD - Frebay (+1)
5/21: KA 296 HAN-HKG - AndrewT84
5/22: CX 872 HKG-SFO - AndrewT84
5/24: CX 811 BOS-HKG - IncaTrails
5/25: KA 297 HKG-HAN - IncaTrails
5/28: CX 764 SGN-HKG - JetSetDave
5/28: CX 858 HKG-SEA - JetSetDave
5/30: CX 841 JFK-HKG - zip10001
5/31: KA 224 HKG-DAD - zip10001
5/31: CX 5294 (KA) HAN-HKG maverikbc (+1)
June:
6/1: CX 888 HKG-YVR maverikbc (+1)
6/2: KA 221 DAD-HKG - sgan317 (+2)
6/2: CX 840 HKG-JFK - sgan317 (+2)
6/2: KA 221 DAD-HKG - greendx
6/2: CX 840 HKG-JFK - greendx
6/3: CX 888 HKG-JFK - JALOO5-Flyer
6/8: KA 296 HAN-HKG - Mrow (+1)
6/8: CX 846 HKG-JFK - Mrow (+1)
6/8: CX 766 SGN-HKG - Quanh79 (+3)
6/8: CX 846 HKG-JFK - Quanh79 (+3)
6/8: KA 296 HAN-HKG - UAPremierGuy
6/8: CX 840 HKG-JFK - UAPremierGuy
6/8: KA 221 DAD-HKG - Evianon
6/8: CX 840 HKG-JFK - Evianon (+1)
6/9: KA 294 DAD-HKG - Frebay (+1)
6/10: CX 872 HKG-SFO - Frebay (+1)
6/10: CX 845 JFK-HKG - UAPremierGuy
6/11: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Evianon
6/12: KA 220: HKG-DAD - Evianon
6/12: CX 841 JFK-HKG - Mrow (+1)
6/12: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Hudute
6/13: KA 299 HKG-HAN - Mrow (+1)
6/13: CX 5220 HKG-DAD - Hudute
6/17: KA 225 DAD-HKG - CruisingAlitiude47
6/18: CX 830 HKG-JFK - CruisingAlitiude47
6/22: KA 294 HAN-HKG - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
6/22: CX 830 HKG-YVR - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
6/22: CX 888 HKG-JFK - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
6/22: KA 221 DAD-HKG ZohyeahZ (+2)
6/22: CX 840 HKG-JFK ZohyeahZ (+2)
6/28: CX 865 JFK-HKG - greendx
6/30: KA 220 HKG-DAD - greendx
July:
7/3: CX 857 SEA-HKG - JetSetDave
7/4: CX 767 HKG-SGN - JetSetDave
7/4: KA 294 HAN-HKG - Majuki
7/4 CX 872 SFO-HKG - princesakura
7/5: CX 872 HKG-SFO - Majuki
7/5: KA 227 DAD-HKG - afirm (+1)
7/6: CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK- afirm (+1)
7/7: CX 841 JFK-HKG - afirm (+1)
7/8: KA 224 HKG-DAD - afirm (+1)
7/8: KA 296 HAN-HKG - terryversay (+1)
7/8: CX 840 HKG-JFK - terryversay (+1)
7/8: CX 872 - HKG-SFO - princesakura
7/9: CX 841 JFK-HKG - JALOO5-Flyer
7/11: CX 873 SFO-HKG - AndrewT84
7/12: KA 297 HKG-HAN - AndrewT84
7/12: CX 845 JFK-HKG - CruisingAltitude47
7/13: KA 220 HKG-DAD - CruisingAltitude47
7/14: KA 221 DAD-HKG - nutty92 (+2)
7/14: CX 840 HKG-JFK - nutty92 (+2)
7/14: CX 1764 SGN-HKG - chitink (+2)
7/15: CX 806 HKG-ORD - chitink (+2)
7/17: CX 840 HKG-JFK - danfl44 (+1)
7/20: CX 865 JFK-HKG zOhYeahz (+2)
7/22: KA 224 HKG-DAD zOhYeahz (+2)
7/25: CX 841 JFK-HKG - danfl44 (+1)
7/27: CX ### JFK-HKG - tcormier (+2)
7/30: KA 221 DAD-HKG - driveswith (+1)
7/31: CX 888 HKG-YVR - driveswith (+1)
7/31: CX 888 YVR-JFK - driveswith (+1)
August:
8/5: KA 225 DAD-HKG - sriegert
8/6: CX 888 HKG-JFK - sriegert
8/6 KA 221 DAD-HKG - aradisc (+1)
8/7 CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK - aradisc (+1)
8/7: KA 221/840 DAD-HKG-JFK Brituchenite
8/9: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Quanh79 (+1)
8/9: CX767 HKG-SGN - Quanh79 (+1)
8/10 CX 840 HKG-JFK - thefilipinotraveler (+1)
8/11 CX 841 JFK-HKG - driveswith (+1)
8/11 KA 294 DAD-HKG - pochi
8/12 KA 225 DAD-HKG - Dancrane (+1)
8/12 CX 888 HKG-JFK - pochi (+1)
8/13 CX 830 HKG-JFK - Dancrane (+1)
8/17 CX 851 SFO-HKG - princesakura
8/17 CX 841 JFK-HKG - pochi (+1)
8/17 KA 297 HKG-HAN - thefilipinotraveler (+1)
8/18 CX 845 JFK-YVR-HKG - swgsword
8/19 KA 299 HKG-HAN - swgsword (+1)
8/19 CX 841 JFK-HKG - Dancrane (+1)
8/20 KA 224 HKG-DAD - Dancrane (+1)
8/23 CX 845 JFK-HKG - sriegert
8/23 CX812 HKG-BOS - paul4471 (+2)
8/24 - KA 220 HKG-DAD - sriegert
8/24 CX1790/VN592 HAN-HKG ritesa (+1)
8/25 CX888 HKG-YVR ritesa (+1)
8/26 CX 872 HKG-SFO - princesakura
8/27 CX865 YVR-HKG ritesa (+1)
8/30: CX835 JFK-HKG - terryversay (+1)
8/30: CX830 HKG-JFK - JALOO5-Flyer (+1)
8/31: KA297 HKG-HAN - terryversay (+1)
8/30 KA299 HKG-HAN ritesa (+1)
8/30: CX865CX5/220 JFK-YVR-HKG-DAD Brituchenite
8/30: KA/CX ### HAN-HKG-JFK-DCA - GlobalNelson
September:
9/1: CX 766 SGN-HKG - quinzinho (+1)
9/1: AA 192 / CX 7686 HKG-LAX - quinzinho (+1)
9/1: AA 303 LAX-IAD - quinzinho (+1)
9/1: CX 873 SFO-HKG - Majuki
9/1: CX 1791 HKG-HAN - paul4471 (+2)
9/2: KA 297 HKG-HAN - Majuki
9/6: AA 1139 IAD-LAX - quinzinho (+1)
9/7: AA 193 / CX 7685 LAX-HKG - quinzinho (+1)
9/8: CX 767 HKG-SGN - quinzinho (+1)
9/7: KA 221 DAD-HKG - ChiefNWA
9/7: CX 840 HKG-JFK - ChiefNWA
9/9: VN592-CX840 HAN-HKG-JFK - Zebranz
9/14: KA296-CX810 HAN-HKG pschafer+1 in J
9/14: CX 851 SFO-HKG - princesakura
9/26: CX 764 SGN-HKG - Phrantic
9/27: CX 806 HKG-ORD - Phrantic
9/28: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Pochama
9/29: KA 220 HKG-DAD - Pochama
9/30: CX ### JFK-HKG - Mauibaby2008
October:
10/01: KA ### HKG-HAN - Mauibaby2008
10/05: CX855-KA299 YVR-HKG-HAN - pschafer+1 in J
10/08 CX5221 - CX890 DAD-HKG-EWR MCI777
10/10 CX841 - CX5224 JFK-HKG-DAD MCI777
10/10: CX865-KA297 JFK-HKG-HAN - Zebranz
10/11: CX 865 JFK-HKG - ChiefNWA
10/12: KA 220 HKG-DAD - ChiefNWA
10/12: CX 873 SFO-HKG - dordal
10/13: CX5299 HKG-HAN
10/15: VN594-CX840 SGN-HKG-JFK - Zebranz
10/16-17: KA221J/CX888A DAD-HKG-YVR-JFK - Shareholder
10/19 CX865 YVR-HKG maverikbc (+1)
10/20 CX1791 (VN) HKG-HAN maverikbc (+1)
10/25: CX/KA ### DCA-JFK-HKG-HAN - GlobalNelson
10/30: CX 831 JFK-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
10/31: CX 721 HKG-SGN - SiempreBCNJFK
November:
11/1: CX 831 JFK-HKG - sgan317 (+2)
11/1: KA/CX ### HAN-HKG-YVR - GlobalNelson
11/2: KA 220 HKG-DAD - sgan317 (+2)
11/4-6: CX865A/KA220J (CX5220J) JFK-HKG-DAD - Shareholder
11/7: CX 807 ORD-HKG - chitink (+1)
11/7: CX841-CX799 JFK-HKG-SGN - Zebranz (changed due to CX Cxl CX845)
11/8: CX 721 HKG-SGN - chitink (+1)
11/8: CX 845 JFK-HKG - nutty92 (+2)
11/9: KA 228 HKG-DAD - nutty92 (+2)
11/11: KA296-CX872 HAN-HKG-SFO - Zebranz
11/12: CX 1764 SGN-HKG - chitink (+1)
11/13: CX 806 HKG-ORD - chitink (+1)
11/17: KA 227 DAD-HKG - Paul5795 (+1)
11/18: CX 872 HKG-SFO - Paul5795 (+1)
11/26: CX 807 ORD-HKG - chitink (+1)
11/26: CX873-KA295 SFO-HKG-HAN - Zebranz (might abandon KA295)
11/27: CX 721 HKG-SGN - chitink (+1)
11/29: KA296 HAN-HKG - JAeX
11/30: CX872 HKG-SFO - JAeX
11/30: KA 227 DAD-HKG-Tennislover9
11/30: CX 846 HKG-JFK-Tennislover9
11/30: CX726 SGN-HKG- stephem (+4)
11/30: CX858 HKG-SEA- stephem (+4)
December:
12/02: HKG-SFO CX872- uclabruin82
12/14: KA 294 HAN-HKG - calcjr23 (+1)
12/15: CX 830 HKG-JFK - calcjr23 (+1)
12/15: CX873 SFO-HKG - Paul5795
12/17: KA226 HKG-DAD - Paul5795
12/18: CX 807 ORD-HKG - Phrantic
12/19: CX 865 YVR-HKG - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
12/19: CX 841 JFK-HKG - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
12/19: CX 865 JFK-YVR - calcjr23 (+1)
12/20: CX 865 YVR-HKG - calcjr23 (+1)
12/20: KA 295 HKG-HAN - FormallyKnownAs (+1) may abandon
12/20: CX 767 HKG-SGN - Phrantic
12/20: CX 845 JFK-HKG-Tennislover9
12/20: CX857 SEA-HKG- stephem (+4)
12/21: CX799 HKG-SGN- stephem (+4)
12/21: KA 228 HKG-DAD-Tennislover9 (may abandon)
12/21: KA 297 HKG-HAN - calcjr23 (+1)
12/21: CX873 SFO-HKG - JAeX
12/23: KA297 HKG-HAN - JAeX
12/24: CX 873 SFO-HKG - Frebay (+1)
12/24: KA 295 HKG-HAN - Frebay (+1)
12/24: CX 873 SFO-HKG - UCLABruin82
FARES (YMMV) listed alphabetically - F booked into J/A; J booked into I,D,C.
- DAD-IAD: ~$1,483 (F)
- DAD-JFK: ~$675 (J) ~$845 (F)
- DAD-SFO: ~$931 (J)
- HAN-BOS: ~$1,120 (J) ~$1,200 (F)
- HAN-IAD: ~$1,000 (J) ~$1,400 (F)
- HAN-JFK: ~$1,324 (J) ~$1,444 (F)
- HAN-SFO: ~$1,240 (F)
- HAN-YVR: ~$768 (J) ~$988 (F)
- SGN-JFK: ~$1,849 (F)
- SGN-ORD: ~$1,115 (F)
- SGN-SEA: ~$1,109 (J)
[Premium Fare Gone]: CX: Vietnam to North America from $674 (J) and $1100 (F)
Jan 9, 2019, 12:37 am
#1186
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVP100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Gold
Posts: 3,215
Amen. I don’t want to offend anyone from the UK, but BA has been horrible to me the last year or so. Their F is terrible. J is terrible. The customer service is terrible. They’ve had to water down their products so much because of competition with EasyJet and Ryanair. Every interaction I’ve had with their customer service was terrible, and they don’t listen or seem to care about you if you’re not a Gold. You’re just another number. It’s only I’d say recent that it’s been so bad for me anyway, I’d say the past 1-2 years in my experience. It’s a shame because they once were a great airline to fly. Again just my experience.
Last edited by NWplatinum; Jan 9, 2019 at 1:15 am
Jan 9, 2019, 12:43 am
#1187
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVP100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Gold
Posts: 3,215
I’m totally lost on changing these tickets. How were some people able to do it on orbitz for $99, and for the same kind of ticket I have in F (A,J) but when I go to change they want 16k?
im confused what you need to do? Is it as simple as finding A and J for the appropriate legs on the flights you want on expertflyer, and then if there is enough A and J it’s only $99?
im confused what you need to do? Is it as simple as finding A and J for the appropriate legs on the flights you want on expertflyer, and then if there is enough A and J it’s only $99?
Last edited by NWplatinum; Jan 9, 2019 at 1:11 am
Jan 9, 2019, 1:38 am
#1188
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Seat 2A
Programs: AA EXP LT GLD 1MM, BA GLD, NH/UA*G, Hyatt Dia, Marr Tit LT PLT, IHG Spire,HH Dia, MGM NOIR,Hertz PC
Posts: 10,571
I’m totally lost on changing these tickets. How were some people able to do it on orbitz for $99, and for the same kind of ticket I have in F (A,J) but when I go to change they want 16k?
im confused what you need to do? Is it as simple as finding A and J for the appropriate legs on the flights you want on expertflyer, and then if there is enough A and J it’s only $99?
im confused what you need to do? Is it as simple as finding A and J for the appropriate legs on the flights you want on expertflyer, and then if there is enough A and J it’s only $99?
Jan 9, 2019, 1:54 am
#1189
Join Date: Jan 2014
Programs: AA Exec Plat; SPG Gold; Hyatt Diamond; Hilton Diamond; IHG Plat Ambassador
Posts: 79
i tried searching for my booking today in the CX website but it cant be located... cant find it on Finn Air / RJ as well...
It previously showed up...
anyone else experiencing this? i have a copy of the booking and eticket in my email...
It previously showed up...
anyone else experiencing this? i have a copy of the booking and eticket in my email...
Jan 9, 2019, 1:55 am
#1190
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVP100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Gold
Posts: 3,215
Jan 9, 2019, 1:57 am
#1191
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVP100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Gold
Posts: 3,215
So, then, what's the issue? Breach of contract is all about damages (eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breach_of_contract)
I'd love to hear an airline explain how they suffer damages when a seat which has been paid for leaves empty (especially if they are made aware of it before take-off, so, for example, the flight is not delayed while waiting for the passenger)
I'd love to hear an airline explain how they suffer damages when a seat which has been paid for leaves empty (especially if they are made aware of it before take-off, so, for example, the flight is not delayed while waiting for the passenger)
It would be nice if people who already flew these segments could tell us what happened if they dropped the last segment without being too specific to jeopardize anything they say.
Jan 9, 2019, 3:28 am
#1192
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SJC
Programs: UA 1K, AA ExecPlat
Posts: 820
Just wanted to add my experience in case it helps anyone.
I didn't think the fare would be honored, so I booked a departure as soon as I could, and ended up booking HAN-HKG-JFK in J/F departing on 1/2.
I then had to get to HAN (I was in China at the time), and from what I could tell, US passport holders did NOT need a visa for an international-international transit at HAN. I managed to find a cheap ticket that departed within a few hours that would get me into HAN at 2am on ZH (from SZX). That would give me plenty of time to figure things out since my flight on KA didn't depart for 8 hours.
Interestingly enough, I was never once asked to show a Vietnam visa, neither at my original checkin with CA, nor when I checked in with ZH at SZX. Once I arrived in HAN, I found the transit/immigration area, and noticed that there were doors leading up to the departures area labeled "Transit", however they were both locked. There was a transit desk, but at 2am, it was empty. I inquired at the visa desk, and they told me to wait at the transit desk and they would call someone. I technically did not need the transit desk since I was able to checkin for my CX flights online and was able to print the boarding passes out before I left SZX. Mobile boarding passes were not allowed for HAN. So when I arrived in HAN,I already had my onward boarding passes in hand. After a few minutes, someone came over to look at my boarding passes, but tried to tell me that I needed to checkin and needed a visa. When I pointed to the words "Boarding pass" on my printed out boarding pass, they still said I would need a visa until I mentioned that I did not have any checked bags. They then asked me to wait a few minutes while they radioed someone, and after a few minutes someone came down through the "Transit" door and let me go through which brought me up to the security check just beyond the immigration counters. After that it was a simple check and then I was in the terminal for the rest of the night until my flight.
A tip if you are stuck overnight in HAN like I was, at the far left end of the terminal are a few chairs that are for napping and it is relatively quiet there. Most benches in the airport also do not have arm rests, so it is easy to lie down on the benches to get some rest as well. Thankfully, most of the tvs in the terminal were also on silent (except one showing a sporting match near the security checkpoint). Once it became 6 (or maybe 7) some of the lounges started to open, and CX J allows you to use either the VN lounge, or a specific 3rd party lounge (I can't remember which one).
I had no problems boarding either of my flights for HKG or JFK and ended up enjoying them.
In case anyone is curious, both flights credited to my AA account within a few days and I earned the following (as ExecPlat):
HAN-HKG (J)
EQM: 785
EQD: 131
RDM: 1,282
HKG-JFK (A)
EQM: 12,105
EQD: 2,421
RDM: 21,789
I didn't think the fare would be honored, so I booked a departure as soon as I could, and ended up booking HAN-HKG-JFK in J/F departing on 1/2.
I then had to get to HAN (I was in China at the time), and from what I could tell, US passport holders did NOT need a visa for an international-international transit at HAN. I managed to find a cheap ticket that departed within a few hours that would get me into HAN at 2am on ZH (from SZX). That would give me plenty of time to figure things out since my flight on KA didn't depart for 8 hours.
Interestingly enough, I was never once asked to show a Vietnam visa, neither at my original checkin with CA, nor when I checked in with ZH at SZX. Once I arrived in HAN, I found the transit/immigration area, and noticed that there were doors leading up to the departures area labeled "Transit", however they were both locked. There was a transit desk, but at 2am, it was empty. I inquired at the visa desk, and they told me to wait at the transit desk and they would call someone. I technically did not need the transit desk since I was able to checkin for my CX flights online and was able to print the boarding passes out before I left SZX. Mobile boarding passes were not allowed for HAN. So when I arrived in HAN,I already had my onward boarding passes in hand. After a few minutes, someone came over to look at my boarding passes, but tried to tell me that I needed to checkin and needed a visa. When I pointed to the words "Boarding pass" on my printed out boarding pass, they still said I would need a visa until I mentioned that I did not have any checked bags. They then asked me to wait a few minutes while they radioed someone, and after a few minutes someone came down through the "Transit" door and let me go through which brought me up to the security check just beyond the immigration counters. After that it was a simple check and then I was in the terminal for the rest of the night until my flight.
A tip if you are stuck overnight in HAN like I was, at the far left end of the terminal are a few chairs that are for napping and it is relatively quiet there. Most benches in the airport also do not have arm rests, so it is easy to lie down on the benches to get some rest as well. Thankfully, most of the tvs in the terminal were also on silent (except one showing a sporting match near the security checkpoint). Once it became 6 (or maybe 7) some of the lounges started to open, and CX J allows you to use either the VN lounge, or a specific 3rd party lounge (I can't remember which one).
I had no problems boarding either of my flights for HKG or JFK and ended up enjoying them.
In case anyone is curious, both flights credited to my AA account within a few days and I earned the following (as ExecPlat):
HAN-HKG (J)
EQM: 785
EQD: 131
RDM: 1,282
HKG-JFK (A)
EQM: 12,105
EQD: 2,421
RDM: 21,789
Jan 9, 2019, 3:45 am
#1193
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Munich
Programs: QR Platinum, TK Elite Plus, SQ Gold, BA Gold, VS Gold, Globalist, HH Diamond
Posts: 101
Would be someone be so kind and add my itinerary to the Wiki? Thank you
- CX5294 Fr 15 Nov 2019 HAN to HKG (J)
- CX888 Sat 16 Nov 2019 HKG to JFK via YVR (A)
- CX831 Sun 17 Nov 2019 JFK to HKG (A)
- CX5297 Di 19 Nov 2019 HKG to HAN (J)
- CX5294 Fr 15 Nov 2019 HAN to HKG (J)
- CX888 Sat 16 Nov 2019 HKG to JFK via YVR (A)
- CX831 Sun 17 Nov 2019 JFK to HKG (A)
- CX5297 Di 19 Nov 2019 HKG to HAN (J)
Last edited by andigoeskiwi; Jan 9, 2019 at 3:49 am Reason: Mistake in last line (Destination)
Jan 9, 2019, 3:47 am
#1194
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVP100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Gold
Posts: 3,215
Just wanted to add my experience in case it helps anyone.
I didn't think the fare would be honored, so I booked a departure as soon as I could, and ended up booking HAN-HKG-JFK in J/F departing on 1/2.
I then had to get to HAN (I was in China at the time), and from what I could tell, US passport holders did NOT need a visa for an international-international transit at HAN. I managed to find a cheap ticket that departed within a few hours that would get me into HAN at 2am on ZH (from SZX). That would give me plenty of time to figure things out since my flight on KA didn't depart for 8 hours.
Interestingly enough, I was never once asked to show a Vietnam visa, neither at my original checkin with CA, nor when I checked in with ZH at SZX. Once I arrived in HAN, I found the transit/immigration area, and noticed that there were doors leading up to the departures area labeled "Transit", however they were both locked. There was a transit desk, but at 2am, it was empty. I inquired at the visa desk, and they told me to wait at the transit desk and they would call someone. I technically did not need the transit desk since I was able to checkin for my CX flights online and was able to print the boarding passes out before I left SZX. Mobile boarding passes were not allowed for HAN. So when I arrived in HAN,I already had my onward boarding passes in hand. After a few minutes, someone came over to look at my boarding passes, but tried to tell me that I needed to checkin and needed a visa. When I pointed to the words "Boarding pass" on my printed out boarding pass, they still said I would need a visa until I mentioned that I did not have any checked bags. They then asked me to wait a few minutes while they radioed someone, and after a few minutes someone came down through the "Transit" door and let me go through which brought me up to the security check just beyond the immigration counters. After that it was a simple check and then I was in the terminal for the rest of the night until my flight.
A tip if you are stuck overnight in HAN like I was, at the far left end of the terminal are a few chairs that are for napping and it is relatively quiet there. Most benches in the airport also do not have arm rests, so it is easy to lie down on the benches to get some rest as well. Thankfully, most of the tvs in the terminal were also on silent (except one showing a sporting match near the security checkpoint). Once it became 6 (or maybe 7) some of the lounges started to open, and CX J allows you to use either the VN lounge, or a specific 3rd party lounge (I can't remember which one).
I had no problems boarding either of my flights for HKG or JFK and ended up enjoying them.
In case anyone is curious, both flights credited to my AA account within a few days and I earned the following (as ExecPlat):
HAN-HKG (J)
EQM: 785
EQD: 131
RDM: 1,282
HKG-JFK (A)
EQM: 12,105
EQD: 2,421
RDM: 21,789
I didn't think the fare would be honored, so I booked a departure as soon as I could, and ended up booking HAN-HKG-JFK in J/F departing on 1/2.
I then had to get to HAN (I was in China at the time), and from what I could tell, US passport holders did NOT need a visa for an international-international transit at HAN. I managed to find a cheap ticket that departed within a few hours that would get me into HAN at 2am on ZH (from SZX). That would give me plenty of time to figure things out since my flight on KA didn't depart for 8 hours.
Interestingly enough, I was never once asked to show a Vietnam visa, neither at my original checkin with CA, nor when I checked in with ZH at SZX. Once I arrived in HAN, I found the transit/immigration area, and noticed that there were doors leading up to the departures area labeled "Transit", however they were both locked. There was a transit desk, but at 2am, it was empty. I inquired at the visa desk, and they told me to wait at the transit desk and they would call someone. I technically did not need the transit desk since I was able to checkin for my CX flights online and was able to print the boarding passes out before I left SZX. Mobile boarding passes were not allowed for HAN. So when I arrived in HAN,I already had my onward boarding passes in hand. After a few minutes, someone came over to look at my boarding passes, but tried to tell me that I needed to checkin and needed a visa. When I pointed to the words "Boarding pass" on my printed out boarding pass, they still said I would need a visa until I mentioned that I did not have any checked bags. They then asked me to wait a few minutes while they radioed someone, and after a few minutes someone came down through the "Transit" door and let me go through which brought me up to the security check just beyond the immigration counters. After that it was a simple check and then I was in the terminal for the rest of the night until my flight.
A tip if you are stuck overnight in HAN like I was, at the far left end of the terminal are a few chairs that are for napping and it is relatively quiet there. Most benches in the airport also do not have arm rests, so it is easy to lie down on the benches to get some rest as well. Thankfully, most of the tvs in the terminal were also on silent (except one showing a sporting match near the security checkpoint). Once it became 6 (or maybe 7) some of the lounges started to open, and CX J allows you to use either the VN lounge, or a specific 3rd party lounge (I can't remember which one).
I had no problems boarding either of my flights for HKG or JFK and ended up enjoying them.
In case anyone is curious, both flights credited to my AA account within a few days and I earned the following (as ExecPlat):
HAN-HKG (J)
EQM: 785
EQD: 131
RDM: 1,282
HKG-JFK (A)
EQM: 12,105
EQD: 2,421
RDM: 21,789
Jan 9, 2019, 5:40 am
#1197
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: DEN
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Titanium, CX DM, SQ Gold
Posts: 1,607
I have a workaround for that. If you go edit passenger details in the CX PNR and attach an AA FQTV, wait a few minutes then log into the Aadvantage account. You will now see the AA segments in your AA Profile complete with the (different) PNR for AA. You can change seats there, go log back in via CX and out back whichever FQTV you want.
Jan 9, 2019, 5:54 am
#1198
Join Date: Feb 2014
Programs: Star Alliance Gold, AS MVP
Posts: 990
I have a workaround for that. If you go edit passenger details in the CX PNR and attach an AA FQTV, wait a few minutes then log into the Aadvantage account. You will now see the AA segments in your AA Profile complete with the (different) PNR for AA. You can change seats there, go log back in via CX and out back whichever FQTV you want.
Jan 9, 2019, 6:17 am
#1199
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVP100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Gold
Posts: 3,215
Jan 9, 2019, 6:20 am
#1200
Join Date: Feb 2014
Programs: Star Alliance Gold, AS MVP
Posts: 990