Dec 31, 2018, 9:41 pm
Last edit by: alexj7
CAUTION - TURNAROUND
"One customer did have issues. Wang Guanran, who documents his travels on hktravelblog.com, had his plans to travel to New York on Wednesday cut short when he was prevented from flying by immigration officials in Vietnam... he was detained by Vietnamese immigration officials, who said it was illegal to return to his city of origin while in transit." - Source:SCMP, 2 January 2019
Also https://rapidtravelchai.boardingarea...-direct-turns/
Visa Information: check out the Vietnam visa/VOA thread in the Asia forum. You can get either a visa on arrival where you get the stamp on arrival) or a "looseleaf" visa in advance from a VN Consulate in the US (which allows you to go straight to the immigration queue). There are sometimes lines for the VOA stamp and so the loosleaf approach can save you some time.
Seat Assignments
per NWPlatinum below - Cathay blocks out all seats except for 2D for some reason. I never understood the reasoning behind this but in any event just contact them for a seat assignment and they’ll let you have your choice. They like to block out seats for people with bassinets and babies. But you can usually get 2A, which is the best see if you’re solo traveler. Just say I want seat 2A and I’ll move if requested at the airport (never was asked to move)
Basic Visa Options for US Citizens
1. One month, one entry
2. One month, multiple entries
3. Three months, one entry
4. Three months, multiple entries
5. One year, multiple entries
Everyone needs an e-visa approval before boarding if they will enter the country. (e.g. clear customs). Connecting flights - even on separate tickets - do not require a visa IF IF IF the connecting airline has a counter in the transit area. (The airline may have their own rules.) Going back to the same country is not allowed without clearing customs first.
Expect the visa check at your point of departure. (Computer will flag your ticket.) The actual stamp is received on arrival (in most cases). (There is also the possibility of a visa insert with no need to go to 'visa on arrival'.)
Official Site: Embassy of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam in the United States
Lounge Access (Access Requirements)
JFK - AA Flagship First (F Departure)
ORD - British Airways Club / First Lounge T5 (J / F departures). AA Flagship lounge T3 (logistics in this post)
BOS
SFO - CX Lounge Terminal A (F or J Departure)
YVR - CX Lounge Gate 67
HKG
HAN - Song Hong Lounge (KA) or ACV/NIA Business Lounge (KA)
DAD
Current status:
- Deal is no longer active (can't book this anymore)
Mainstream media coverage:
- Cathay Pacific says it will honour first and business-class tickets sold in error in move that could cost it millions [SCMP, 2 January 2019]
- Cathay Pacific error sees $16,000 flights sold for $675 [The Guardian, 2 January 2019]
- Bloomberg article by Kyunghee Park
- South China Morning Post article by Danny Lee
- Follow up article from Danny Lee SCMP with individual anecdotes and analyst comments.
- Oriental Daily Hong Kong & Macao news article discussing the fare via lens of airline "mismanagement" (Chinese)
Post your trip dates and itinerary here:
Please use (+1) to denote you are in F and can guest someone (or more than 1 person) into the F lounges in HKG.
January:
1/9: KA 294 HAN-HKG - tonykline1947 (+1)
1/10: CX 888 HKG-YVR - tonykline1947 (+1)
1/18: KA 296 HAN-HKG - SOWK
1/19: CX 888 HKG-YVR - SOWK
1/21: KA 227 DAD-HKG - Governator
1/21: KA 227 DAD-HKG - usairchairman (+1)
1/21: CX 840 HKG-JFK - usairchairman (+1)
1/21: CX 846 HKG-JFK - Governator
1/22: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Governator
1/23: KA 220 HKG-DAD - Governator (won't fly this one)
1/23: CX5227 DAD-HKG rbAA
1/23: CX840 HKG-JFK rbAA (can guest at Wing FC or Pier FC as I have 5hrs+)
1/26: CX 227 DAD-HKG - Synd(+1)
1/26: CX 846 HKG-JFK - Synd(+1)
1/29 KA 227 DAD-HKG - miffSC
1/29 CX 846 HKG-JFK - miffSC
1/30: CX 831 JFK-HKG - Synd (+1)
1/30: CX 865 JFK - YVR - HKG - ss2k(+1) can guest someone at JFK Flagship dining (i think)
February:
2/1: CX 220 - HKG - DAD - Synd (+1) - will try not to fly this one
2/1: CX 220 - HKG - DAD - ss2k (+1) - will probably stay in DAD for couple of days if anyone wants to join
2/2: CX865 JFK-YVR-HKG rbAA (can guest at JFK AA FL FC)
2/3 - KA 227 - DAD-HKG - swgsword, Pochama
2/3 - CX 840 - HKG-JFK - Pochama
2/4 - CX 888 - HKG-YVR-JFK - swgsword (+1, also FL at JFK)
2/4: CX5220 HKG-DAD rbAA (tight connection :50 so no lounge time unless I misconnect)
2/10: CX 764 SGN-HKG - zebes
2/11: CX 806 HKG-ORD - zebes
2/15: CX 831 JFK-HKG - usairchairman (+1)
2/15: CX 812 HKG-BOS - AnttiV
2/16: KA 220 HKG-DAD - usairchairman (+1)
2/18 CX 872 HKG-SFO - princesakura (+1)
2/19: KA 296 HAN-HKG - IncaTrails
2/19: CX 812 HKG-BOS - IncaTrails
2/22: CX 811 BOS-HKG - AnttiV
March:
3/01: CX 807 ORD-HKG - zebes
3/01 CX ### HAN-HKG - billbligh (+3)
3/02 CX888 HKG-YVR (0100) billybligh(+3)
3/03: CX 767 HKG-SGN - zebes
3/03: CX 764 SGN-HKG - zebes
3/04: CX 806 HKG-ORD - zebes
3/05: CX1790 HAN-HKG - dordal
3/06: CX872 HKG-SFO - dordal
3/08: CX 873 SFO-HKG - princesakura
3/11: KA 223 DAD-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/12: CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK - SiempreBCNJFK
3/12: CX 865 YVR-HKG - SOWK
3/13: CX 1791 HKG-HAN - SOWK
3/14: CX 5227 DAD-HKG - Hudute
3/14: CX 840 HKG-JFK - Hudute
3/15: CX 5527 DAD-HKG - Frebay (+1)
3/15: CX 840 HKG-JFK - Frebay (+1)
3/15: CX 845 JFK-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/16: KA 228 HKG-DAD - SiempreBCNJFK
3/17: KA 227 DAD-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/17: CX 890 HKG-EWR - SiempreBCNJFK
3/18: CX 872 HKG-SFO - princesakura (+1)
3/20: CX ### HKG-JFK - tcormier (+2)
3/20: CX 888 HKG-(YVR)-JFK - captainstubing (+1)
3/22: CX 831 JFK-HKG - captainstubing
3/22: CX 840 HKG-JFK - jongesander (+1)
3/25: CX 899 EWR-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/26: KA 226 HKG-DAD - SiempreBCNJFK
3/26: CX 845 JFK-HKG - swgsword
3/27: KA 220 HKG-DAD - swgsword (+1)
3/27: KA ### HAN-HKG - Mauibaby2008
3/27: CX ### HKG-JFK - Mauibaby2008
3/28: CX 766 SGN-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/28: CX 846 HKG-JFK - SiempreBCNJFK
3/29: CX 5296 HAN-HKG - LHG
3/29: CX 872 HKG-SFO - LHG
3/29: CX 807 ORD-HKG - zebes
3/31: CX 767 HKG-SGN - zebes
April:
4/3 CX 845 JFK-HKG - miffSC
4/4 KA 220 HKG-DAD - miffSC
4/6 KA 294 HAN-HKG - frisbfreek
4/7 CX 830 HKG-JFK - frisbfreek (+1)
4/13: KA 294 HAN-HKG - bostonbali (+1)
4/13: KA 294 HAN-HKG - swgsword
4/14: CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK bostonbali (+1)
4/14: CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK swgsword (+1)
4/19: KA 298 HAN-HKG shek3112
4/19: CX 846 HKG-JFK shek3112 (+3)
4/19: CX 806 HKG-ORD Oshkosh105 (+1)
4/20: CX 807 ORD-HKG Oshkosh105
4/29: CX 845 JFK-HKG shek3112 (+3)
4/30: KA 299 HKG-HAN shek3112 (may change)
4/30: KA 221 DAD-HKG - driveswith (+1)
May:
5/1: CX 888 HKG-YVR - driveswith (+1)
5/1: CX 888 YVR-JFK - driveswith (+1)
5/8: CX 845 JFK-HKG - driveswith (+1)
5/8: KA 221 DAD-HKG - zip10001
5/8: CX 840 HKG-JFK - zip10001
5/10: CX 873 SFO-HKG - dordal
5/11: CX5297 HKG-HAN - dordal
5/11: KA 296 HAN-HKG - james_yuen (+1)
5/12: CX 888 HKG-YVR - james_yuen (+1)
5/12: CX 5294 HAN-HKG - dordal
5/13: CX 872 HKG-SFO - dordal
5/13: BA 28 HKG-LHR - driveswith (+1)
5/15 CX865 YVR-HKG - james_yuen (+1)
5/16 KA 299 HKG-HAN - james_yuen (+1)
5/19: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Frebay (+1)
5/20: CX 5224 HKG-DAD - Frebay (+1)
5/21: KA 296 HAN-HKG - AndrewT84
5/22: CX 872 HKG-SFO - AndrewT84
5/24: CX 811 BOS-HKG - IncaTrails
5/25: KA 297 HKG-HAN - IncaTrails
5/28: CX 764 SGN-HKG - JetSetDave
5/28: CX 858 HKG-SEA - JetSetDave
5/30: CX 841 JFK-HKG - zip10001
5/31: KA 224 HKG-DAD - zip10001
5/31: CX 5294 (KA) HAN-HKG maverikbc (+1)
June:
6/1: CX 888 HKG-YVR maverikbc (+1)
6/2: KA 221 DAD-HKG - sgan317 (+2)
6/2: CX 840 HKG-JFK - sgan317 (+2)
6/2: KA 221 DAD-HKG - greendx
6/2: CX 840 HKG-JFK - greendx
6/3: CX 888 HKG-JFK - JALOO5-Flyer
6/8: KA 296 HAN-HKG - Mrow (+1)
6/8: CX 846 HKG-JFK - Mrow (+1)
6/8: CX 766 SGN-HKG - Quanh79 (+3)
6/8: CX 846 HKG-JFK - Quanh79 (+3)
6/8: KA 296 HAN-HKG - UAPremierGuy
6/8: CX 840 HKG-JFK - UAPremierGuy
6/8: KA 221 DAD-HKG - Evianon
6/8: CX 840 HKG-JFK - Evianon (+1)
6/9: KA 294 DAD-HKG - Frebay (+1)
6/10: CX 872 HKG-SFO - Frebay (+1)
6/10: CX 845 JFK-HKG - UAPremierGuy
6/11: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Evianon
6/12: KA 220: HKG-DAD - Evianon
6/12: CX 841 JFK-HKG - Mrow (+1)
6/12: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Hudute
6/13: KA 299 HKG-HAN - Mrow (+1)
6/13: CX 5220 HKG-DAD - Hudute
6/17: KA 225 DAD-HKG - CruisingAlitiude47
6/18: CX 830 HKG-JFK - CruisingAlitiude47
6/22: KA 294 HAN-HKG - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
6/22: CX 830 HKG-YVR - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
6/22: CX 888 HKG-JFK - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
6/22: KA 221 DAD-HKG ZohyeahZ (+2)
6/22: CX 840 HKG-JFK ZohyeahZ (+2)
6/28: CX 865 JFK-HKG - greendx
6/30: KA 220 HKG-DAD - greendx
July:
7/3: CX 857 SEA-HKG - JetSetDave
7/4: CX 767 HKG-SGN - JetSetDave
7/4: KA 294 HAN-HKG - Majuki
7/4 CX 872 SFO-HKG - princesakura
7/5: CX 872 HKG-SFO - Majuki
7/5: KA 227 DAD-HKG - afirm (+1)
7/6: CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK- afirm (+1)
7/7: CX 841 JFK-HKG - afirm (+1)
7/8: KA 224 HKG-DAD - afirm (+1)
7/8: KA 296 HAN-HKG - terryversay (+1)
7/8: CX 840 HKG-JFK - terryversay (+1)
7/8: CX 872 - HKG-SFO - princesakura
7/9: CX 841 JFK-HKG - JALOO5-Flyer
7/11: CX 873 SFO-HKG - AndrewT84
7/12: KA 297 HKG-HAN - AndrewT84
7/12: CX 845 JFK-HKG - CruisingAltitude47
7/13: KA 220 HKG-DAD - CruisingAltitude47
7/14: KA 221 DAD-HKG - nutty92 (+2)
7/14: CX 840 HKG-JFK - nutty92 (+2)
7/14: CX 1764 SGN-HKG - chitink (+2)
7/15: CX 806 HKG-ORD - chitink (+2)
7/17: CX 840 HKG-JFK - danfl44 (+1)
7/20: CX 865 JFK-HKG zOhYeahz (+2)
7/22: KA 224 HKG-DAD zOhYeahz (+2)
7/25: CX 841 JFK-HKG - danfl44 (+1)
7/27: CX ### JFK-HKG - tcormier (+2)
7/30: KA 221 DAD-HKG - driveswith (+1)
7/31: CX 888 HKG-YVR - driveswith (+1)
7/31: CX 888 YVR-JFK - driveswith (+1)
August:
8/5: KA 225 DAD-HKG - sriegert
8/6: CX 888 HKG-JFK - sriegert
8/6 KA 221 DAD-HKG - aradisc (+1)
8/7 CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK - aradisc (+1)
8/7: KA 221/840 DAD-HKG-JFK Brituchenite
8/9: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Quanh79 (+1)
8/9: CX767 HKG-SGN - Quanh79 (+1)
8/10 CX 840 HKG-JFK - thefilipinotraveler (+1)
8/11 CX 841 JFK-HKG - driveswith (+1)
8/11 KA 294 DAD-HKG - pochi
8/12 KA 225 DAD-HKG - Dancrane (+1)
8/12 CX 888 HKG-JFK - pochi (+1)
8/13 CX 830 HKG-JFK - Dancrane (+1)
8/17 CX 851 SFO-HKG - princesakura
8/17 CX 841 JFK-HKG - pochi (+1)
8/17 KA 297 HKG-HAN - thefilipinotraveler (+1)
8/18 CX 845 JFK-YVR-HKG - swgsword
8/19 KA 299 HKG-HAN - swgsword (+1)
8/19 CX 841 JFK-HKG - Dancrane (+1)
8/20 KA 224 HKG-DAD - Dancrane (+1)
8/23 CX 845 JFK-HKG - sriegert
8/23 CX812 HKG-BOS - paul4471 (+2)
8/24 - KA 220 HKG-DAD - sriegert
8/24 CX1790/VN592 HAN-HKG ritesa (+1)
8/25 CX888 HKG-YVR ritesa (+1)
8/26 CX 872 HKG-SFO - princesakura
8/27 CX865 YVR-HKG ritesa (+1)
8/30: CX835 JFK-HKG - terryversay (+1)
8/30: CX830 HKG-JFK - JALOO5-Flyer (+1)
8/31: KA297 HKG-HAN - terryversay (+1)
8/30 KA299 HKG-HAN ritesa (+1)
8/30: CX865CX5/220 JFK-YVR-HKG-DAD Brituchenite
8/30: KA/CX ### HAN-HKG-JFK-DCA - GlobalNelson
September:
9/1: CX 766 SGN-HKG - quinzinho (+1)
9/1: AA 192 / CX 7686 HKG-LAX - quinzinho (+1)
9/1: AA 303 LAX-IAD - quinzinho (+1)
9/1: CX 873 SFO-HKG - Majuki
9/1: CX 1791 HKG-HAN - paul4471 (+2)
9/2: KA 297 HKG-HAN - Majuki
9/6: AA 1139 IAD-LAX - quinzinho (+1)
9/7: AA 193 / CX 7685 LAX-HKG - quinzinho (+1)
9/8: CX 767 HKG-SGN - quinzinho (+1)
9/7: KA 221 DAD-HKG - ChiefNWA
9/7: CX 840 HKG-JFK - ChiefNWA
9/9: VN592-CX840 HAN-HKG-JFK - Zebranz
9/14: KA296-CX810 HAN-HKG pschafer+1 in J
9/14: CX 851 SFO-HKG - princesakura
9/26: CX 764 SGN-HKG - Phrantic
9/27: CX 806 HKG-ORD - Phrantic
9/28: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Pochama
9/29: KA 220 HKG-DAD - Pochama
9/30: CX ### JFK-HKG - Mauibaby2008
October:
10/01: KA ### HKG-HAN - Mauibaby2008
10/05: CX855-KA299 YVR-HKG-HAN - pschafer+1 in J
10/08 CX5221 - CX890 DAD-HKG-EWR MCI777
10/10 CX841 - CX5224 JFK-HKG-DAD MCI777
10/10: CX865-KA297 JFK-HKG-HAN - Zebranz
10/11: CX 865 JFK-HKG - ChiefNWA
10/12: KA 220 HKG-DAD - ChiefNWA
10/12: CX 873 SFO-HKG - dordal
10/13: CX5299 HKG-HAN
10/15: VN594-CX840 SGN-HKG-JFK - Zebranz
10/16-17: KA221J/CX888A DAD-HKG-YVR-JFK - Shareholder
10/19 CX865 YVR-HKG maverikbc (+1)
10/20 CX1791 (VN) HKG-HAN maverikbc (+1)
10/25: CX/KA ### DCA-JFK-HKG-HAN - GlobalNelson
10/30: CX 831 JFK-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
10/31: CX 721 HKG-SGN - SiempreBCNJFK
November:
11/1: CX 831 JFK-HKG - sgan317 (+2)
11/1: KA/CX ### HAN-HKG-YVR - GlobalNelson
11/2: KA 220 HKG-DAD - sgan317 (+2)
11/4-6: CX865A/KA220J (CX5220J) JFK-HKG-DAD - Shareholder
11/7: CX 807 ORD-HKG - chitink (+1)
11/7: CX841-CX799 JFK-HKG-SGN - Zebranz (changed due to CX Cxl CX845)
11/8: CX 721 HKG-SGN - chitink (+1)
11/8: CX 845 JFK-HKG - nutty92 (+2)
11/9: KA 228 HKG-DAD - nutty92 (+2)
11/11: KA296-CX872 HAN-HKG-SFO - Zebranz
11/12: CX 1764 SGN-HKG - chitink (+1)
11/13: CX 806 HKG-ORD - chitink (+1)
11/17: KA 227 DAD-HKG - Paul5795 (+1)
11/18: CX 872 HKG-SFO - Paul5795 (+1)
11/26: CX 807 ORD-HKG - chitink (+1)
11/26: CX873-KA295 SFO-HKG-HAN - Zebranz (might abandon KA295)
11/27: CX 721 HKG-SGN - chitink (+1)
11/29: KA296 HAN-HKG - JAeX
11/30: CX872 HKG-SFO - JAeX
11/30: KA 227 DAD-HKG-Tennislover9
11/30: CX 846 HKG-JFK-Tennislover9
11/30: CX726 SGN-HKG- stephem (+4)
11/30: CX858 HKG-SEA- stephem (+4)
December:
12/02: HKG-SFO CX872- uclabruin82
12/14: KA 294 HAN-HKG - calcjr23 (+1)
12/15: CX 830 HKG-JFK - calcjr23 (+1)
12/15: CX873 SFO-HKG - Paul5795
12/17: KA226 HKG-DAD - Paul5795
12/18: CX 807 ORD-HKG - Phrantic
12/19: CX 865 YVR-HKG - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
12/19: CX 841 JFK-HKG - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
12/19: CX 865 JFK-YVR - calcjr23 (+1)
12/20: CX 865 YVR-HKG - calcjr23 (+1)
12/20: KA 295 HKG-HAN - FormallyKnownAs (+1) may abandon
12/20: CX 767 HKG-SGN - Phrantic
12/20: CX 845 JFK-HKG-Tennislover9
12/20: CX857 SEA-HKG- stephem (+4)
12/21: CX799 HKG-SGN- stephem (+4)
12/21: KA 228 HKG-DAD-Tennislover9 (may abandon)
12/21: KA 297 HKG-HAN - calcjr23 (+1)
12/21: CX873 SFO-HKG - JAeX
12/23: KA297 HKG-HAN - JAeX
12/24: CX 873 SFO-HKG - Frebay (+1)
12/24: KA 295 HKG-HAN - Frebay (+1)
12/24: CX 873 SFO-HKG - UCLABruin82
FARES (YMMV) listed alphabetically - F booked into J/A; J booked into I,D,C.
- DAD-IAD: ~$1,483 (F)
- DAD-JFK: ~$675 (J) ~$845 (F)
- DAD-SFO: ~$931 (J)
- HAN-BOS: ~$1,120 (J) ~$1,200 (F)
- HAN-IAD: ~$1,000 (J) ~$1,400 (F)
- HAN-JFK: ~$1,324 (J) ~$1,444 (F)
- HAN-SFO: ~$1,240 (F)
- HAN-YVR: ~$768 (J) ~$988 (F)
- SGN-JFK: ~$1,849 (F)
- SGN-ORD: ~$1,115 (F)
- SGN-SEA: ~$1,109 (J)
[Premium Fare Gone]: CX: Vietnam to North America from $674 (J) and $1100 (F)
Sep 16, 2019, 8:05 pm
#2611
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: Alaska
Posts: 2,188
Apologies if this has been covered for SGN. Has anyone done a same-flight turn at SGN? It's been a few years since I've been there, but I have to imagine they're fairly accustomed to seeing transit passengers.
- The HKG-SGN flight arrives 10:15AM and departs 11:15AM.
- The MCT for **-CX and CX-** international/international connections is 1 hr. Same is true for the Standard I/I MCT: 1 hr. So technically it would be a legal connection.
I've seen reports of HAN and DAD same-flight turns, but wondering if anyone's tried in SGN.
Thanks in advance for any help!
- The HKG-SGN flight arrives 10:15AM and departs 11:15AM.
- The MCT for **-CX and CX-** international/international connections is 1 hr. Same is true for the Standard I/I MCT: 1 hr. So technically it would be a legal connection.
I've seen reports of HAN and DAD same-flight turns, but wondering if anyone's tried in SGN.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Sep 16, 2019, 8:24 pm
#2612
Join Date: May 2005
Programs: AA EXP, DL Plat, US Chairman, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, IC RA
Posts: 1,436
Again, I'm asking if anyone has actual experience doing this at SGN. FWIW, one of us is APEC, and the other carries a Danish passport, so neither of us need a visa.
Sep 16, 2019, 10:00 pm
#2613
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 508
Mine is fine as well, I'm assuming they cut cx 845 JFK-HKG 3 times a week as it only operates now on M,W,F,Sa, according to ExpertFlyer, unless I'm missing something?
Glad it worked out for you.
Found the story... As of October 27, 2019, Cathay Pacific is cutting 3x weekly flights between Hong Kong and New York
Given that YVR is being cut by 3x a week as well, it would seem the JFK-YVR-HKG route is what is being cut 3x a week. (I am guessing you were on that flight.)
I have that flight in November as well. I just checked and it looks fine right now. In fact first is full.
Found the story... As of October 27, 2019, Cathay Pacific is cutting 3x weekly flights between Hong Kong and New York
Given that YVR is being cut by 3x a week as well, it would seem the JFK-YVR-HKG route is what is being cut 3x a week. (I am guessing you were on that flight.)
I have that flight in November as well. I just checked and it looks fine right now. In fact first is full.
Sep 17, 2019, 3:51 am
#2614
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Stockholm, Sweden.
Programs: BA, JAL
Posts: 689
This is a stupid question so I'm apologetic in advance. It's about whether I can avoid visas in Vietnam and China.
Looking online China looks fine. But not sure about 2x twov (transit without visa) in a short space of time.
Seems a little unclear with Vietnam. Seen people say that they bought to single entry visas and stacked. If my arrival and departure is within 24 hours will that be ok?
I plan to fly as follows:
cdg-ams-PEK (xiamen/klm operated)
Then.. PEK-HAN (ticket not bought but departure within 48 hours of arrival at PEK)
HAN (departure within 48 hours)- Hkg-yvr (four day stay).
Yvr-hkg-HAN
Then HAN (departure within 12 hours)-nrt-PEK (JAL) with four day stay.
Then PEK (departure within 12 hours)-ams-cdg
Looking online China looks fine. But not sure about 2x twov (transit without visa) in a short space of time.
Seems a little unclear with Vietnam. Seen people say that they bought to single entry visas and stacked. If my arrival and departure is within 24 hours will that be ok?
I plan to fly as follows:
cdg-ams-PEK (xiamen/klm operated)
Then.. PEK-HAN (ticket not bought but departure within 48 hours of arrival at PEK)
HAN (departure within 48 hours)- Hkg-yvr (four day stay).
Yvr-hkg-HAN
Then HAN (departure within 12 hours)-nrt-PEK (JAL) with four day stay.
Then PEK (departure within 12 hours)-ams-cdg
Sep 17, 2019, 3:57 am
#2615
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: Alaska
Posts: 2,188
This is a stupid question so I'm apologetic in advance. It's about whether I can avoid visas in Vietnam and China.
Looking online China looks fine. But not sure about 2x twov (transit without visa) in a short space of time.
Seems a little unclear with Vietnam. Seen people say that they bought to single entry visas and stacked. If my arrival and departure is within 24 hours will that be ok?
I plan to fly as follows:
cdg-ams-PEK (xiamen/klm operated)
Then.. PEK-HAN (ticket not bought but departure within 48 hours of arrival at PEK)
HAN (departure within 48 hours)- Hkg-yvr (four day stay).
Yvr-hkg-HAN
Then HAN (departure within 12 hours)-nrt-PEK (JAL) with four day stay.
Then PEK (departure within 12 hours)-ams-cdg
Looking online China looks fine. But not sure about 2x twov (transit without visa) in a short space of time.
Seems a little unclear with Vietnam. Seen people say that they bought to single entry visas and stacked. If my arrival and departure is within 24 hours will that be ok?
I plan to fly as follows:
cdg-ams-PEK (xiamen/klm operated)
Then.. PEK-HAN (ticket not bought but departure within 48 hours of arrival at PEK)
HAN (departure within 48 hours)- Hkg-yvr (four day stay).
Yvr-hkg-HAN
Then HAN (departure within 12 hours)-nrt-PEK (JAL) with four day stay.
Then PEK (departure within 12 hours)-ams-cdg
How do you intend to get your boarding pass for HAN-NRT-PEK? If you go through immigration, Vietnam visa is very likely required for you to check-in HAN-NRT-PEK.
Sep 17, 2019, 4:35 am
#2616
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Stockholm, Sweden.
Programs: BA, JAL
Posts: 689
Thank you for writing back. I hoped I could check-in online and then pick up a ticket in the transit area. This idea was probably a bit daft so thank you for pointing this out. Double entry visa is expensive so I guess I am trying to be cheap.
Sep 17, 2019, 6:23 am
#2617
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 53
CX is cutting 3x weekly CX845 JFK-HKG, and I got rerouted to BR JFK-TPE and CX TPE-HKG. I'm worried that I won't get the original routing credit (ORC) to AS, because I will be flying on a completely different airline. Anyone has experience with this?
Last edited by kchanbeki; Sep 17, 2019 at 9:02 am
Sep 17, 2019, 6:41 am
#2618
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,998
Thank you for your reply, but I'm asking if anyone has actual experience in SGN, not what the "official line" is. There are several reports up-thread of people doing this same-plane turnaround easily at HAN and DAD and that CX staff are even helping them.
Again, I'm asking if anyone has actual experience doing this at SGN. FWIW, one of us is APEC, and the other carries a Danish passport, so neither of us need a visa.
Again, I'm asking if anyone has actual experience doing this at SGN. FWIW, one of us is APEC, and the other carries a Danish passport, so neither of us need a visa.
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Sep 17, 2019, 8:24 am
#2619
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: DEN
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Titanium, CX DM, SQ Gold
Posts: 1,607
Just spent the morning doing HUCAs on the Marco Polo Club line trying to date change. Trip not yet commenced.
HAN-HKG-LAX-IAD-LAX-HKG-HAN
The HAN-HKG is CX codeshare on VN metal and I am in J. Expertflyer shows J0 all of January 2020.
First call CX told me to call my travel agent. He says ticket is not from CX. Interesting. This one was booked directly from CX website.
I was able to make changes online a few weeks back. It did offer me some dates for a 100 dollar fee but did not go through with is as dates were unclear.
Now that I ready to pull the trigger, website shows Your ticket is not eligible to change because of restrictive fare terms and conditions. Please contact our Global Contact Centres for alternative. [IBE_EXT0051_S007].
Second call agent was looking around for me +/- 7 days around my preferred dates and found nothing.
My next strategy will be to first call and change the HAN-HKG on VN metal to KA metal. There's a KA flight departing 10 mins later. I think taking the VN out of the picture might make it easier to call back and date change?!
Edit: Third call the agent says AA have no CX codeshare in A bucket. FWIW Experflyer shows A2 with POS set to HK or US. I have no way of checking vietnam POS.
HAN-HKG-LAX-IAD-LAX-HKG-HAN
The HAN-HKG is CX codeshare on VN metal and I am in J. Expertflyer shows J0 all of January 2020.
First call CX told me to call my travel agent. He says ticket is not from CX. Interesting. This one was booked directly from CX website.
I was able to make changes online a few weeks back. It did offer me some dates for a 100 dollar fee but did not go through with is as dates were unclear.
Now that I ready to pull the trigger, website shows Your ticket is not eligible to change because of restrictive fare terms and conditions. Please contact our Global Contact Centres for alternative. [IBE_EXT0051_S007].
Second call agent was looking around for me +/- 7 days around my preferred dates and found nothing.
My next strategy will be to first call and change the HAN-HKG on VN metal to KA metal. There's a KA flight departing 10 mins later. I think taking the VN out of the picture might make it easier to call back and date change?!
Edit: Third call the agent says AA have no CX codeshare in A bucket. FWIW Experflyer shows A2 with POS set to HK or US. I have no way of checking vietnam POS.
Sep 17, 2019, 9:32 am
#2620
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: LAS, ZQN
Programs: UA PP (2MM), BA gold
Posts: 2,198
Received notification on the weekend I was moved to the 8:35p flight rather than the 00:45a I was confirmed in First on. The notice I got Saturday showed still in First, but today received a new notice and have been downgraded to Business. Trying to get through by phone. Full F is available but on a sled change doesn't the airline have to accommodate you in the original class even if the actual fare bucket is not available?
Sep 17, 2019, 10:07 am
#2621
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NY
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 121
using BA Avios award system to find CX first class changeable availability? That sounds interesting...Is it because first class award and the new year fare have the same fare class? So if you can find New York- HK in first award you should be able to change your return to that date?
Sep 17, 2019, 11:56 am
#2622
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,998
using BA Avios award system to find CX first class changeable availability? That sounds interesting...Is it because first class award and the new year fare have the same fare class? So if you can find New York- HK in first award you should be able to change your return to that date?
Sep 17, 2019, 2:23 pm
#2623
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Programs: OWEmerald; STARGold; BonvoyPlat; IHGPlat/Amb; HiltonGold; A|ClubPat; AirMilesPlat
Posts: 38,186
A multiple entry visa on arrival is U$50 at the airport and depending upon the agency in the US you use, between $5 and $45. Takes two to three days.
Sep 17, 2019, 3:30 pm
#2624
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NY
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 121
Thank you buddy! Had a quick search, the NYC HKG first award inventory for this year is indeed depleted. Next year would probably be a better bet..
Sep 18, 2019, 3:42 am
#2625
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west coast best coast
Programs: TINDER GOLD, STARBUCKS GOLD, COSTCO EXECUTIVE!!
Posts: 3,989
Just spent the morning doing HUCAs on the Marco Polo Club line trying to date change. Trip not yet commenced.
HAN-HKG-LAX-IAD-LAX-HKG-HAN
The HAN-HKG is CX codeshare on VN metal and I am in J. Expertflyer shows J0 all of January 2020.
First call CX told me to call my travel agent. He says ticket is not from CX. Interesting. This one was booked directly from CX website.
I was able to make changes online a few weeks back. It did offer me some dates for a 100 dollar fee but did not go through with is as dates were unclear.
Now that I ready to pull the trigger, website shows Your ticket is not eligible to change because of restrictive fare terms and conditions. Please contact our Global Contact Centres for alternative. [IBE_EXT0051_S007].
Second call agent was looking around for me +/- 7 days around my preferred dates and found nothing.
My next strategy will be to first call and change the HAN-HKG on VN metal to KA metal. There's a KA flight departing 10 mins later. I think taking the VN out of the picture might make it easier to call back and date change?!
Edit: Third call the agent says AA have no CX codeshare in A bucket. FWIW Experflyer shows A2 with POS set to HK or US. I have no way of checking vietnam POS.
HAN-HKG-LAX-IAD-LAX-HKG-HAN
The HAN-HKG is CX codeshare on VN metal and I am in J. Expertflyer shows J0 all of January 2020.
First call CX told me to call my travel agent. He says ticket is not from CX. Interesting. This one was booked directly from CX website.
I was able to make changes online a few weeks back. It did offer me some dates for a 100 dollar fee but did not go through with is as dates were unclear.
Now that I ready to pull the trigger, website shows Your ticket is not eligible to change because of restrictive fare terms and conditions. Please contact our Global Contact Centres for alternative. [IBE_EXT0051_S007].
Second call agent was looking around for me +/- 7 days around my preferred dates and found nothing.
My next strategy will be to first call and change the HAN-HKG on VN metal to KA metal. There's a KA flight departing 10 mins later. I think taking the VN out of the picture might make it easier to call back and date change?!
Edit: Third call the agent says AA have no CX codeshare in A bucket. FWIW Experflyer shows A2 with POS set to HK or US. I have no way of checking vietnam POS.