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Jan 6, 18, 11:11 am

#31

poohfighter

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So would earnings on UA flights which are ticketed by NH and have NH ticket and flight numbers credit to UA with the usual 5pts per dollar?

Jan 6, 18, 11:12 am

#32

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Can someone confirm the cancellation penalty if cancelled prior to departure? Seems like it's CAD 450?

Jan 6, 18, 11:32 am

#33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kaushik123

Can someone confirm the cancellation penalty if cancelled prior to departure? Seems like it's CAD 450?

CANCELLATIONS

ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
--
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE FOR REFUND/
CANCEL/NO SHOW
NON-REFUNDABLE APPLIES TO ADULT/CHILD/INFANT

It looks like you can only make changes for CAD 450.00 plus difference in fare

Jan 6, 18, 2:09 pm

#34

alpenrock

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YYZ -SFO-SIN Business Class with United for $2000

https://www.google.com/flights#flt=Y...85*.USD.199985

Jan 6, 18, 2:14 pm

#35

frebay

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Does this flight have the new polaris seats?

Jan 6, 18, 2:22 pm

#36

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Originally Posted by frebay

Does this flight have the new polaris seats?

No.

Jan 6, 18, 2:39 pm

#37

shuttlerider

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jsloan

It's not that simple. This is a published fare, so therefore it is (by definition) not a bulk fare. Bulk fares are those sold by consolidators -- they purchase seats from UA in "bulk" (hence the term) and resell them at whatever price they see fit. Bulk fares may have any number of additional restrictions; for example, they may not be changeable (at all), or you may have to involve the original purchasing agent to get changes made, etc.

So, while gokeeper is correct, that Citi and Chase both sometimes sell bulk fares, they'll typically sell you whatever is cheapest for them. In this case, it's entirely possible -- even likely -- that this sale price is better than whatever bulk fares may have been made available, and they'd just ticket this as a normal fare. In general, if you see the same price in the rewards portal / via a consolidator as you do on United.com, you're buying a normal (non-bulk) fare. If the portal offers a discount, it's likely to be bulk.

Hope this helps.

It does help. Thanks for the insight.

Jan 6, 18, 2:40 pm

#38

shuttlerider

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gokeeper

CITI Thank You Point / CHASE UR booking, or your local travel agent

Guess I'll have to find a TA since those cards aren't available in Canada as far as I know.

Jan 6, 18, 2:45 pm

#39

shuttlerider

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rill2503456

Also, last time the aircraft change happened, a number of people who booked on NH ticket stock were successfully able to ask for alternate routings to get lieflats, including changing the departure city to SEA/other west coast cities.

I think it was the opposite actually? People who booked the NH YVR-SYD mistake fare on UA 016 stock were able to request alternate routings when the cradle seat appeared on the YVR-HND-YVR route, and those who booked on NH 205 stock were, um, declined routing changes by ANA.

Jan 6, 18, 3:13 pm

#40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shuttlerider

That's correct, the majority of people who booked on NH stock were denied. According to a call center supervisor, NH has issued a memo from Tokyo to no longer accommodate re-routing requests due to aircraft swap and being a Japanese airline there is little room for flexibility. So I wouldn't book a cradle seat with the expectation that you may be able to change it later.

Jan 6, 18, 4:20 pm

#41

venomtrilogy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shuttlerider

Correct. There was also a sub-$1,900 non-mistake YVR-SIN/KUL fare last year and, based on the equipment change thread in ANA's forum, 016 stocks were generally accommodated on AC.

Jan 6, 18, 5:58 pm

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PERMITTED 01MAY 18 THROUGH 14JUL 19 ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.

How does one book for January 2019?

Jan 6, 18, 7:45 pm

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Originally Posted by margarita girl

How does one book for January 2019?

One waits.

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Jan 6, 18, 9:25 pm

#44

nanz236

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Originally Posted by mahasamatman

One waits.

Jan 6, 18, 11:52 pm

#45

jsloan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JetAway

Will the ticketed carrier change the fare post-flight if the transborder return segment is dropped?

Likely not. The UA forum has a couple of examples of people getting payment demands from UA for hidden-city ticketing (which is what that would be). However, the general rule is that they won't do anything as long as you don't make a habit of it. My bigger concern with HCT is that the ticketing carrier (or, on day of travel, the operating carrier) is only responsible to get you to to your destination; they're free to change your routing at will. So, if you're trying to fly SIN-NRT-EWR(-YYZ), and there is a schedule change or day-of-flight IRROPS, you could end up on SIN-LAX-YYZ or SIN-SFO-ORD-YYZ or... etc. Also, note that you would only be able to check luggage if EWR were your US entry point -- you'd need SIN-NRT-EWR-YYZ, basically. If you flew via LAX or SFO, you wouldn't have access to your luggage at EWR.

However, what they may do is recalculate the cost of the fare for PQD-earning purposes, and likely not in your favor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by poohfighter

So would earnings on UA flights which are ticketed by NH and have NH ticket and flight numbers credit to UA with the usual 5pts per dollar?

Yes. UA-operated flights will accrue to MileagePlus at 5 points per dollar (plus any elite bonus) regardless of booking code or ticket stock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shuttlerider

Guess I'll have to find a TA since those cards aren't available in Canada as far as I know.

It may be worth asking, but, again, there's a decent chance that a local travel agent / consolidator won't be able to offer a cheaper bulk fare than this current sale fare. And if they're selling you this fare, it won't be bulk and you won't be able to get distance-based credit on MileagePlus. It may be worth trying to credit to another carrier: Where to Credit | Where to Credit United Airlines Flights in P Booking Class Where to Credit | Where to Credit All Nippon Airways Flights in P Booking Class

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