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irishguy28 Dec 19, 2017 10:11 am


Originally Posted by AviationFreak (Post 29192926)
Same here. It's because on some forms the AF site asks for first name first and others last name first...

When you're travelling in First, apparently you have to give both your first and last name first...

(Was there ever a sentence in the English language that used the word "first" so many times???) :D :D :D

:D :D :D

irishguy28 Dec 19, 2017 10:12 am


Originally Posted by coffee18 (Post 29192908)
I found out about this deal on my phone on the 1st floor of my work. I work on the 4th floor. I sprinted up the steps, literally tripped on the last set of stairs to book this deal.

I hope no teeth or bones were broken!!! ^^

Madone59 Dec 19, 2017 10:14 am


Originally Posted by ErnstH (Post 29192887)
Managed to book one-way SFO-CDG-LHR for June 2018. Two questions (I generally don't fly SkyTeam): 1) do I get access to La Premiere lounge upon arrival in Paris? 2) what is the best SkyTeam partner to credit towards? KLM gives only a pitiful amount since it falls under the new rules. Would Delta be better? I would just use them for an award booking.

re: Crediting Where to Credit | How Many Miles | Every Frequent Flyer Program

bhamsan01 Dec 19, 2017 10:15 am

I booked 2 SFO-CDG-LHR on the 777 both ways right when the deal broke. Selected seats during booking and can pull up my reservation on AF website, but now I cannot change my seats on the La Premiere legs, even though there's one seat available both ways. Could this be step 1 to cancellation?

palmanfr Dec 19, 2017 10:17 am

I have a few reservations pending payment, which will expire in 45 minutes. I just booked one and it went fine. E-ticket was issued immediately. Tried to go online to see if I could change the dates of the booking. Any changes of date costs 8000$+... 😮

jona970318 Dec 19, 2017 10:19 am


Originally Posted by irishguy28 (Post 29192785)
Indeed, there surely is someone already holding a boarding pass for the morrow... :D :D :D

OMG!!:D:D:D Let us know how it goes!!

355F1 Dec 19, 2017 10:19 am


Originally Posted by coffee18 (Post 29192908)
I found out about this deal on my phone on the 1st floor of my work. I work on the 4th floor. I sprinted up the steps, literally tripped on the last set of stairs to book this deal.

I think we need some serious mental help from a professional!!!! :D

irishguy28 Dec 19, 2017 10:20 am


Originally Posted by jona970318 (Post 29192967)


OMG!!:D:D:D Let us know how it goes!!

I didn't mean that I am the person holding such a boarding pass! Much and all as I would love to be that person!!

Splendiz Dec 19, 2017 10:23 am

Aaaand another missed deal because my girlfriend is too slow replying with her available vacation time slots. New girlfriend anyone?

margarita girl Dec 19, 2017 10:23 am


Originally Posted by invalyd (Post 29192889)
Err, it pulls up using my first name. I think in my haste to book I may have entered my first name and last name backwards.
Am I out of luck, as I assume this can't be updated?

Not one of my finest moments :(

I did this a few years ago when booking a LAN ticket on a Spanish website. I had to send in a copy of my passport and they were able to change it for me.

palmanfr Dec 19, 2017 10:23 am

One of the booking on hold is for my two parents it's a one way ticket and I will pay for it now. But looks like the dates I selected are not ok for them. Obviously it's too late to change the dates so I was thinking about paying now and try to change the dates online. In case this is unsuccessful, I guess I can still get a full refund of those tickets right ?
Considering the fare conditions say so and that I am using the US website...

sgan317 Dec 19, 2017 10:24 am

If my ticket is on Delta stock, I will earn 400% RDM via Virgin Atlantic? Someone tell me why this wont work/is a bad idea

paranoiatx Dec 19, 2017 10:24 am

Well, grabbed 1.5 of these. DL stock and flight numbers -- not sure if that will make much difference (vs AF flight numbers) in honoring these.

Someone at AF (or DL?) is gonna have quite a headache sorting this one out...

manacit Dec 19, 2017 10:24 am


Originally Posted by Splendiz (Post 29192984)
Aaaand another missed deal because my girlfriend is too slow replying with her available vacation time slots. New girlfriend anyone?

I've learned my lesson - there are times when the deal is so good that you just have to book it first and ask later :D. I just realized that I booked my week overlapping a family reunion I am supposed to go to. We'll see how it plays out..


Originally Posted by palmanfr (Post 29192988)
One of the booking on hold is for my two parents it's a one way ticket and I will pay for it now. But looks like the dates I selected are not ok for them. Obviously it's too late to change the dates so I was thinking about paying now and try to change the dates online. In case this is unsuccessful, I guess I can still get a full refund of those tickets right ?
Considering the fare conditions say so and that I am using the US website...

You'll be able to cancel penalty free with these fares, but you won't be able to change things without paying the difference between this mistake fare and the normal P fare - which means you're on the hook for an easy five figures.

poohfighter Dec 19, 2017 10:25 am


Originally Posted by invalyd (Post 29192939)
Glad I am not alone... What's your course of action? Seems best to wait until the dust settles to do anything.

Damn I did it too lol... oh well. I can't see how it would be an issue. Lots of Tickets print names in various orders. Think I'll just call and add the middle name.

ron187 Dec 19, 2017 10:25 am


Originally Posted by Splendiz (Post 29192984)
Aaaand another missed deal because my girlfriend is too slow replying with her available vacation time slots. New girlfriend anyone?

haha I've stopped even waiting on my wife to reply - I just book 4 different dates, and keep only the one that works with her vacay days.

jumbooze Dec 19, 2017 10:26 am


Originally Posted by irishguy28 (Post 29192882)
I changed my flights online to have a longer layover in Paris; I keep hearing so much about the La Première lounge there that a 2h25 layover didn't seem sufficient :D

how did you manage that, I would love to have more time in the LPL

PV_Premier Dec 19, 2017 10:27 am


Originally Posted by manacit (Post 29192994)
I've learned my lesson - there are times when the deal is so good that you just have to book it first and ask later :D. I just realized that I booked my week overlapping a family reunion I am supposed to go to. We'll see how it plays out..



You'll be able to cancel penalty free with these fares, but you won't be able to change things without paying the difference between this mistake fare and the normal P fare - which means you're on the hook for an easy five figures.

exactly, this was essentially the holy grail of mistake fares. fully refundable, leaving little excuse for not booking several based on hypothetically feasible dates.

says the guy who only booked one :mad: :rolleyes: but at least it's on a date i know i can use it if it's honored.

invalyd Dec 19, 2017 10:27 am


Originally Posted by ron187 (Post 29192999)
haha I've stopped even waiting on my wife to reply - I just book 4 different dates, and keep only the one that works with her vacay days.

agree, book first inquire about availability later!

angra Dec 19, 2017 10:27 am


Originally Posted by ron187 (Post 29192999)
haha I've stopped even waiting on my wife to reply - I just book 4 different dates, and keep only the one that works with her vacay days.

right, for really hot fares you have to up your game.

I missed a couple of good fares a few years ago playing this game and adapted in much the same way.

palmanfr Dec 19, 2017 10:30 am


Originally Posted by manacit (Post 29192994)
I've learned my lesson - there are times when the deal is so good that you just have to book it first and ask later :D. I just realized that I booked my week overlapping a family reunion I am supposed to go to. We'll see how it plays out..



You'll be able to cancel penalty free with these fares, but you won't be able to change things without paying the difference between this mistake fare and the normal P fare - which means you're on the hook for an easy five figures.

Ok. So I guess I will book now and try to convince my dad to change his vacation days ! 😀

SFO777 Dec 19, 2017 10:31 am

Whew. I need a shower after that.

My 6 reservations are showing as active on AF. Indeed, when I went to check 15 minutes ago, it showed one still "awaiting payment".
I had changed my mind on that one two hours earlier and thought it was lost. When I clicked thru, it let my buy at the $1,515. price.
Since these are fully refundable and changeable, there wasn't much risk buying these even when the dates and/or equipment are not perfect.

BizClsDreaming Dec 19, 2017 10:34 am

Can still pull up my reservation on AF.us. One thing it's not doing is accepting my Skymiles #. But I'll worry about forcing that in a few weeks if this all goes through.

Rowyourboat Dec 19, 2017 10:35 am


Originally Posted by flyer05 (Post 29192921)

Also curious about the ground experience arriving in F and connecting to intra Europe J. Is there car transfer both ways?

There is car transfer both ways. At LHR arrival you generally won't have someone escort you through security, though it does happen at other outstations.

Splendiz Dec 19, 2017 10:41 am


Originally Posted by angra (Post 29193009)
right, for really hot fares you have to up your game.

I missed a couple of good fares a few years ago playing this game and adapted in much the same way.

Will do so next time. Also doing research about which first class is better b777 or a380 on AF and thinking too long about SF or LAX and studying the NHL schedule (I'm from Europe..) turned out not to be the perfect approach. lol
Well at least I got the 640€ AMS-TYO-AMS QR deal (Y) this year followed by 3 more QR deals :P Also I try to keep in mind it might be a good idea to book some error fares multiple times spread across the year. Helps to get to a high tier too ... ;)

irishguy28 Dec 19, 2017 10:43 am


Originally Posted by jumbooze (Post 29193000)
how did you manage that, I would love to have more time in the LPL

This was a fully flexible fare, so while the deal was still valid you could change your flights on the Air France website to pick other combinations that weren't offered by the booking tool.

Given that the fares have been repriced, there is no scope now to change flights without being hit with a reprice.

CDKing Dec 19, 2017 10:44 am

Only $8,000 to change dates for me.

paranoiatx Dec 19, 2017 10:45 am


Originally Posted by irishguy28 (Post 29192864)
Are you sure you are using the correct confirmation number?

(For the avoidance of all doubt: You need to look this up on the Air France or KLM websites; if booked directly from Air France, the Amadeus PNR won't work on any other website)

If you are using a Delta-issued PNR, then that won't work on the Air France website (the airlines, though partners, use different GDSes)

DL PNR works fine on AF site. Just did all my seats.

irishguy28 Dec 19, 2017 10:46 am


Originally Posted by SFO777 (Post 29193024)
there wasn't much risk buying these even when the dates and/or equipment are not perfect.

Hah! So you admit that there is something less than perfect about some forms of AF P!

manacit Dec 19, 2017 10:47 am


Originally Posted by BizClsDreaming (Post 29193043)
Can still pull up my reservation on AF.us. One thing it's not doing is accepting my Skymiles #. But I'll worry about forcing that in a few weeks if this all goes through.

I had the same issue - was stuck with my FB number (because I booked it while I was logged in on my FB account). 10 minutes with the Diamond line and they were able to swap out my DL SM # no problem. I wouldn't worry about it right now (unless you're flying tomorrow or something), but it should be no problem to swap the number out at any point.

swingaling Dec 19, 2017 10:48 am

I wouldn't expect AF to honor this fare. It's an order of magnitude less expensive than it should be, so it's obviously a pricing error where someone messed up a decimal place.

irishguy28 Dec 19, 2017 10:49 am


Originally Posted by swingaling (Post 29193091)
I wouldn't expect AF to honor this fare. It's an order of magnitude less expensive than it should be, so it's obviously a pricing error where someone messed up a decimal place.

I think someone may have confused "Premium Economy" with "La Première".

(Don't Americans speak French? :D :D :D)

bhamsan01 Dec 19, 2017 10:52 am


Originally Posted by SFO777 (Post 29193024)
Whew. I need a shower after that.

My 6 reservations are showing as active on AF. Indeed, when I went to check 15 minutes ago, it showed one still "awaiting payment".
I had changed my mind on that one two hours earlier and thought it was lost. When I clicked thru, it let my buy at the $1,515. price.
Since these are fully refundable and changeable, there wasn't much risk buying these even when the dates and/or equipment are not perfect.

Does this mean we'll potentially be seeing 6 more trip reports through 2018?

PV_Premier Dec 19, 2017 10:52 am


Originally Posted by swingaling (Post 29193091)
I wouldn't expect AF to honor this fare. It's an order of magnitude less expensive than it should be, so it's obviously a pricing error where someone messed up a decimal place.

you're quite likely right, but if you're not, it sure would hurt to not have a horse in the race.

angra Dec 19, 2017 10:57 am


Originally Posted by swingaling (Post 29193091)
I wouldn't expect AF to honor this fare. It's an order of magnitude less expensive than it should be, so it's obviously a pricing error where someone messed up a decimal place.

I actually suspect it's two orders of magnitude off, just going by the base fare. lots of fees and taxes on this one.

josephstern Dec 19, 2017 11:01 am

For everyone who's changing seats on the AF website but booked with Delta: I wasn't able to choose seats during booking, but now that the tickets are issued, I can choose seats just fine on the DL website.

irishguy28 Dec 19, 2017 11:02 am


Originally Posted by angra (Post 29193131)
I actually suspect it's two orders of magnitude off, just going by the base fare. lots of fees and taxes on this one.

Two orders of magnitude means a factor of 100.

You surely don't mean to suggest that the going rate shoud have been $151,500????

(Or maybe you intended to give the fare in cents - in which case, it's correct and all's well :D :D :D)

invalyd Dec 19, 2017 11:03 am


Originally Posted by paranoiatx (Post 29193078)
DL PNR works fine on AF site. Just did all my seats.

Does your DL fare show as Premium Economy when pulling up on AF?

cmd320 Dec 19, 2017 11:04 am

Ughhh!! Seem to have missed it. :(

2manyredeyes Dec 19, 2017 11:04 am

I was lucky enough to snag 4 of these round trips but sadly doubt this fare will live. Far too many tickets were issued for AF's liking. 3/4 of my trips are on AF's 777 and are fully booked in the F cabin....and I have a feeling none of them paid full fare prices. Lets just hope they don't tie up our money for too long.


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