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Old Aug 13, 2017, 1:49 pm
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$1300 CAI-FRA-PHL-DFW (stopover) DFW-EZE (also via SCL)
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Old Aug 13, 2017, 1:52 pm
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Some of you guys are real ITA wizards!


Originally Posted by SFO777
Finally got LA to work by using SNA, which is only 10 minutes from home anyway.
At 4.2x, more than 100,000 EQMs for EXPs. Very cool.

Assuming that this is ticketed by AA-

Those EQD's wouldn't even put someone at Gold, though. And once one makes up the remaining EQD's to reach 12k, hitting 100k EQM's generally comes with it. So those EQM's are probably just major overkill...

And with fare-based RDM's these days we can't even get that many award miles out of the deal, granted it's nothing to sneeze at, but it's not fantastic.

Unless I'm missing something, I'm not sure I see great value in putting this under AA..
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Old Aug 13, 2017, 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by axck
Some of you guys are real ITA wizards!




Assuming that this is ticketed by AA-

Those EQD's wouldn't even put someone at Gold, though. And once one makes up the remaining EQD's to reach 12k, hitting 100k EQM's generally comes with it. So those EQM's are probably just major overkill...

And with fare-based RDM's these days we can't even get that many award miles out of the deal, granted it's nothing to sneeze at, but it's not fantastic.

Unless I'm missing something, I'm not sure I see great value in putting this under AA..
Would be nice if it might ticket under BA stock, since the first segment is often BA operated/marketed. Then it would earn 40% EQD for AA J. Or is this not the case since it is an AA fare (will AA award RDM based on $$ if ticketed on non-001 stock, but an AA fare)?

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Old Aug 13, 2017, 2:39 pm
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you can route also

cai-lhr-jfk-mia-lim-gru-eze


lim-gru is over 2000 miles so good for BA tier run

but I coudn't get I (its 2 flights with bigness class)

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Old Aug 13, 2017, 2:43 pm
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600 TP with this !!!!

how can add to it step overs
if I put 1 at LIM prize jump x2

this could be good to see
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Old Aug 13, 2017, 2:52 pm
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Originally Posted by axck
Unless I'm missing something, I'm not sure I see great value in putting this under AA..
At first pass, I'd agree. But fortunately, AA hasn't demonstrated much ability at accurately applying EDQs on multi-airline tickets. Even some of my AA coded and operating metal tickets received distance based EQDs on tickets which include other airlines. IMO, the best strategy for EXPs would be to book only AA coded/operated when you can use SWUs to upgrade to F. Then book as many partners as possible, either their own metal or partner codeshares on AA metal.
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Old Aug 13, 2017, 2:52 pm
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This fare also works as CAI-USH. Aside from the TATL and US domestic segments, it's possible to have every other flight coded on an OW partner (BA/IB/AY/LA/4M etc).
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Old Aug 13, 2017, 3:04 pm
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Originally Posted by flytastic
Originally Posted by rustykettel
~50576EQM/~54968RDM (~67783MVP/~80598MVPG/~86995 75K) at ~5.4cpm for EQM when crediting to AS. Not bad at all. ^
What are the EQDs? If anyone posts EQMs, would you be so kind as to post the EQD's as well and list all the formulas you use to compute EQMs and EQDs ? Please ? Thank you.
Calculations are crediting to AS, so EQD is N/A. Good point about showing work. Noticed I had an error in my calculations for RDM

CAI-LHR-CAI - BA J - ~4394mi x 150% CoS bonus = ~10986EQM + 100% RDM class bonus (~5493)
LHR-JFK-EZE-DFW-LHR - AA J - ~ 18769mi x 100% CoS bonus = ~37538EQM
DFW-PHX-SNA - AA I - 1368mi x 50% CoS bonus = ~2052EQM

Total miles ~24531
Total EQM ~50576
Total base RDM ~56069
MVP (+24531 x 50%, ~12266), total RDM ~68335
MVPG (+24531 x 100%, ~24531 ), total RDM ~80600
75K (24531 x 125%, ~30664), total RDM ~86733

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Old Aug 13, 2017, 3:21 pm
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See .com and do the math!!!

Originally Posted by flytastic
What are the EQDs? If anyone posts EQMs, would you be so kind as to post the EQD's as well and list all the formulas you use to compute EQMs and EQDs ? Please ? Thank you.
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Old Aug 13, 2017, 4:01 pm
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Anyone has any bookable google flights links?
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Old Aug 13, 2017, 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by axck
Some of you guys are real ITA wizards!




Assuming that this is ticketed by AA-

Those EQD's wouldn't even put someone at Gold, though. And once one makes up the remaining EQD's to reach 12k, hitting 100k EQM's generally comes with it. So those EQM's are probably just major overkill...

And with fare-based RDM's these days we can't even get that many award miles out of the deal, granted it's nothing to sneeze at, but it's not fantastic.

Unless I'm missing something, I'm not sure I see great value in putting this under AA..
Originally Posted by tlott
Would be nice if it might ticket under BA stock, since the first segment is often BA operated/marketed. Then it would earn 40% EQD for AA J. Or is this not the case since it is an AA fare (will AA award RDM based on $$ if ticketed on non-001 stock, but an AA fare)?
"Ticketed by" isn't what matters; "marketed" does, for all the earning. So if you're buying "AA" or "BA" flights, you earn according to the respective tables.

For AA earning, here's what I wound up with, assuming all segments were marketed as shown. If we assume that the fare is distributed at the same ratio as the miles, AA EQD might be somewhere around 80% of 2500 = 2000, for total of 3100 very roughly.

Code:
                          MILES    EQM   EQD
CAI-LHR-CAI     BA J 1.5   4395   6593  1099
LHR-JFK-EZE-DFW AA J 3.0  14019  42057
DFW-PHX-SNA     AA I 2.0   1207   2414
DFW-LHR         AA J 3.0   4751  14253

TOTALS                    24372  65317
If all segments were AA-marketed, EQM would still only be 71,910 (and EQD maybe 2500); not sure where the discrepancy between that and "100k" is coming from.

If all segments were BA-marketed, EQM would be 1.5 * 24372 = 36,558 and EQD would be .25 * 24372 = 6,093. No, you don't get to "earn 40% EQD for AA J" from the Special Fares table, which presumably is what you had in mind.
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Old Aug 13, 2017, 4:27 pm
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Old Aug 13, 2017, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by SFO777
Finally got LA to work by using SNA, which is only 10 minutes from home anyway.
At 4.2x, more than 100,000 EQMs for EXPs. Very cool.

I am able to get LAX to work and on the 777 from DFW.

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Old Aug 13, 2017, 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by zoqfotpik
I tried LAX and the closest I can get is through LAS on one-way.
Could you provide an example how you got LAS (with a stop) into the routing?

Thanks
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Old Aug 13, 2017, 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by SpammersAreScum
"Ticketed by" isn't what matters; "marketed" does, for all the earning. So if you're buying "AA" or "BA" flights, you earn according to the respective tables.
Yeah, but if AA cannot determine fare data, it reverts to a distance based chart. I was curious if non-001 stock always = the distance based chart. That is how it is for UA.
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