Jul 31, 2017, 8:56 am
Last edit by: platbrownguy
Original premium fare deal was for QR J class travel, originating in Vietnam (SGN and HAN) to several destinations across the Americas, Europe, and Africa. Travel period 8/2017 - 3/2018 inclusive, RT fares in the USD 500 - 700 range (USD $0.05 base fare).
Reports have now been circulating that all held, non-purchased fares have been canceled by the airline. Some held and then purchased fares were also canceled, but several reports indicate at least some of those have been re-instated.
For more information on flying Qatar Airways, visit the FT forum: Qatar Airways | Privilege Club. This thread in that forum is especially useful: Qatar Airways Forum Dashboard.
This wikipost is intended to help us better understand if there are any trends (by route, travel date, and/or held/ticketed status) in these cancellations. In all entries, please include: outbound or inbound departure date, origin-destination, original ticket status (only *if* "Held" or "Ticketed after Hold"), and current ticket status only *if* your ticket was cancelled ("Cancelled" or "Cancelled & Reinstated").
August HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Aug 05 SGN-Africa - Ticketed after Hold.
Aug 08 SGN-EZE
Aug 13 EZE-SGN
Aug 23 HAN-FRA
September HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Sep XX HAN-GRU
Sep 21 SGN-JFK
Sep 30 SGN-ORD - mster
Sep XX HAN-PHL
Sep XX SGN-JFK
Sep XX SGN-JFK - Held. Cancelled & Reinstated.
October HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Oct 03 ORD-SGN - mster
Oct 07 SGN-DFW - mster
Oct 13 DFW-SGN - mster
Oct XX SGN-JNB
November HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Nov 05 SGN-JFK - trapped
Nov 07 JFK-SGN - trapped
Nov 09 SGN-ORD - trapped
Nov 16 ORD-SGN - trapped
Nov XX HAN-PHL - Ticketed after Hold.
December HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Dec 23 SGN-DFW pbg
Dec 28 DFW-SGN pbg
Dec 28 SGN-DFW
Dec XX SGN-DFW
January HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Jan 10 DFW-SGN
Jan 11 HAN-DFW
Jan 13 DFW-HAN
Jan 25 SGN-ORD - Booked via OTA. Davem4 (Happy for SGN meet late Jan)
Jan 31 HAN-ATL - mster
Jan XX SGN-SOF
Jan XX HAN-PHL - Ticketed after Hold.
Jan XX SGN-Africa
Jan XX DFW-SGN
Jan XX SGN-PHL
Jan XX SGN-EZE/GRU - Three RTs.
Jan XX SGN-DFW
Jan XX SGN-DFW
February HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Feb 20 ATL-HAN - mster
Feb XX SGN-JNB
Feb XX PHL-SGN
Feb XX GRU-SGN - Three RTs.
Feb 09 ORD-SGN - Booked via OTA. Davem4
Feb 10 SGN-WAW - Booked via OTA. - Davem4
Feb XX SGN-JFK - Booked via OTA - lcpteck
March HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Mar 01 SGN-ATL - mster
Mar 07 ATL-SGN - mster
Mar 04 SGN-JFK
Mar 19 JFK-SGN
Mar 01 HAN-MIA
Mar 04 MIA-HAN
Mar XX SGN-DFW
Mar XX SGN-DFW
Mar 03 WAW-SGN - Booked via OTA. - Davem4 (Happy for SGN meet early Mar)
Held & Cancelled
Aug XX SGN-FRA - Held. Cancelled.
Oct XX SGN-JFK - Held. Cancelled.
Nov / Feb SGN-PHL - Held. Cancelled. (Held ~7:30pm. No record when I went to ticket Monday @8:30am.)
Jan / Feb SGN-JFK - Held. Cancelled.
Reports have now been circulating that all held, non-purchased fares have been canceled by the airline. Some held and then purchased fares were also canceled, but several reports indicate at least some of those have been re-instated.
For more information on flying Qatar Airways, visit the FT forum: Qatar Airways | Privilege Club. This thread in that forum is especially useful: Qatar Airways Forum Dashboard.
This wikipost is intended to help us better understand if there are any trends (by route, travel date, and/or held/ticketed status) in these cancellations. In all entries, please include: outbound or inbound departure date, origin-destination, original ticket status (only *if* "Held" or "Ticketed after Hold"), and current ticket status only *if* your ticket was cancelled ("Cancelled" or "Cancelled & Reinstated").
August HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Aug 05 SGN-Africa - Ticketed after Hold.
Aug 08 SGN-EZE
Aug 13 EZE-SGN
Aug 23 HAN-FRA
September HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Sep XX HAN-GRU
Sep 21 SGN-JFK
Sep 30 SGN-ORD - mster
Sep XX HAN-PHL
Sep XX SGN-JFK
Sep XX SGN-JFK - Held. Cancelled & Reinstated.
October HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Oct 03 ORD-SGN - mster
Oct 07 SGN-DFW - mster
Oct 13 DFW-SGN - mster
Oct XX SGN-JNB
November HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Nov 05 SGN-JFK - trapped
Nov 07 JFK-SGN - trapped
Nov 09 SGN-ORD - trapped
Nov 16 ORD-SGN - trapped
Nov XX HAN-PHL - Ticketed after Hold.
December HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Dec 23 SGN-DFW pbg
Dec 28 DFW-SGN pbg
Dec 28 SGN-DFW
Dec XX SGN-DFW
January HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Jan 10 DFW-SGN
Jan 11 HAN-DFW
Jan 13 DFW-HAN
Jan 25 SGN-ORD - Booked via OTA. Davem4 (Happy for SGN meet late Jan)
Jan 31 HAN-ATL - mster
Jan XX SGN-SOF
Jan XX HAN-PHL - Ticketed after Hold.
Jan XX SGN-Africa
Jan XX DFW-SGN
Jan XX SGN-PHL
Jan XX SGN-EZE/GRU - Three RTs.
Jan XX SGN-DFW
Jan XX SGN-DFW
February HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Feb 20 ATL-HAN - mster
Feb XX SGN-JNB
Feb XX PHL-SGN
Feb XX GRU-SGN - Three RTs.
Feb 09 ORD-SGN - Booked via OTA. Davem4
Feb 10 SGN-WAW - Booked via OTA. - Davem4
Feb XX SGN-JFK - Booked via OTA - lcpteck
March HAN/SGN-XXX & XXX-HAN/SGN
Mar 01 SGN-ATL - mster
Mar 07 ATL-SGN - mster
Mar 04 SGN-JFK
Mar 19 JFK-SGN
Mar 01 HAN-MIA
Mar 04 MIA-HAN
Mar XX SGN-DFW
Mar XX SGN-DFW
Mar 03 WAW-SGN - Booked via OTA. - Davem4 (Happy for SGN meet early Mar)
Held & Cancelled
Aug XX SGN-FRA - Held. Cancelled.
Oct XX SGN-JFK - Held. Cancelled.
Nov / Feb SGN-PHL - Held. Cancelled. (Held ~7:30pm. No record when I went to ticket Monday @8:30am.)
Jan / Feb SGN-JFK - Held. Cancelled.
[FARE GONE]QR Business (R) SGN-Various USA/EU/South America from $553 USD RT
Sep 4, 2017, 10:17 pm
#706
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 541
for those who have transited through SGN, if you are unable to print boarding passes ahead of time, can you still stay in transit area? I understand one would have to wait for counter to open for boarding pass and lounge access but would like to know if it is possible. It is looking like I would be getting to SGN in morning for my evening QR flight and don't want to hassle with visa to go out of airport for few hours. Traveling on US passport so might do online application just so I have approval if transit doesn't work out properly and am forced to go out.
You may be able to buy a refundable ticket somewhere to transit - but not sure if you'll be able to get a BP at the QR gate once you're on the other side.
But I'll let you know whether a BP prints out for me or not at T-24 or T-48, and I think I'll still land at SGN 30-60m before the transit desk should be staffed for QR.
I'm coming from CMB which isn't optimal flight wise, so opted for a 5.5h layover in SIN figuring that I'd rather sit in Changi/SQ lounge than SGN - though I'll still have plenty of hours to kill at SGN.
Sep 5, 2017, 5:05 am
#707
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: OWE
Posts: 131
at HAN, if you don't have a visa, you'll just hang out in the transit zone until the airport staff checks you in. the check in staff actually work for the airport and not the airline at HAN. (airport uniform, not airline uniform!)
i flew a positioning flight from HKG to HAN with an evisa along with my US passport just in case, the problem is trying to convince the check-in agents/airlines that you do not need a visa if you are transiting, especially on a separate ticket. my evisa was actually going to be valid the day after my positioning flight (i changed myself to an earlier flight but HAN let me in a day earlier anyway and just adjusted how long i can be in the country for). in this case, i was almost denied boarding at the gate (i had checked in online so bypassed check in agents) but i had to inform the agents that there is a 24 hour transit rule in HAN and that no visa was necessary with a US passport, they had to check with a few people before letting me on to the flight.
if you can convince and let the check in agents know about the visa free transit area. then you should be fine. i only applied for one one-way visa. i used the same visa coming back from DOH on the return, DOH agents can't check to see if you've used the evisa already or not, and since my connection back to HKG from HAN at the end of my trip is only 3 hours, i knew i wasn't going to leave the airport so i chanced it and it worked (and this won't work if you are leaving the airport as they will know it has already been used)
i also asked the airport staff at the HAN trasnfer desk to send a Cathay agent to check me in at the trasnfer desk. it was done in a breeze and i was escort by the agent to the transfer area/security rescreen.
i flew a positioning flight from HKG to HAN with an evisa along with my US passport just in case, the problem is trying to convince the check-in agents/airlines that you do not need a visa if you are transiting, especially on a separate ticket. my evisa was actually going to be valid the day after my positioning flight (i changed myself to an earlier flight but HAN let me in a day earlier anyway and just adjusted how long i can be in the country for). in this case, i was almost denied boarding at the gate (i had checked in online so bypassed check in agents) but i had to inform the agents that there is a 24 hour transit rule in HAN and that no visa was necessary with a US passport, they had to check with a few people before letting me on to the flight.
if you can convince and let the check in agents know about the visa free transit area. then you should be fine. i only applied for one one-way visa. i used the same visa coming back from DOH on the return, DOH agents can't check to see if you've used the evisa already or not, and since my connection back to HKG from HAN at the end of my trip is only 3 hours, i knew i wasn't going to leave the airport so i chanced it and it worked (and this won't work if you are leaving the airport as they will know it has already been used)
i also asked the airport staff at the HAN trasnfer desk to send a Cathay agent to check me in at the trasnfer desk. it was done in a breeze and i was escort by the agent to the transfer area/security rescreen.
Sep 5, 2017, 5:11 am
#708
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: OWE
Posts: 131
Hey flyer89 thanks for the response and I'm glad to know your experience! I saw the e-visa thing but I'm just not sure how useful it will be since i'd be re-entering 5 days later so i'd have to reapply in the middle of the trip. I wonder if it would seem strange to them for two entries so close together. But...I also have about 2 full pages left in my passport and about 4 years, so it might be worth the hassle to keep the space.
Sep 5, 2017, 5:15 am
#709
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: OWE
Posts: 131
I emailed customer service in HCMC and was declined of free transit hotel as the fare is lower than USD400, but the transit hotel can be arranged with discounted rate of USD150.
If you are travelling before Oct, and want to discover Qatar, search qatar plus for free stopover hotel.
Ryan
If you are travelling before Oct, and want to discover Qatar, search qatar plus for free stopover hotel.
Ryan
Sep 5, 2017, 5:17 am
#710
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: OWE
Posts: 131
Can anyone confirm it's possible to transit to the Cathay Dragon KA294 departing at 19:45 when arriving on QR834 due at 16:15?
I have read online that Cathay Dragon is not part of the transfer desk so it may require a visa to exit & re-enter airside. I know QR will interline baggage onto a OneWorld partner, so that shouldn't be an issue.
I have read online that Cathay Dragon is not part of the transfer desk so it may require a visa to exit & re-enter airside. I know QR will interline baggage onto a OneWorld partner, so that shouldn't be an issue.
Sep 8, 2017, 7:14 pm
#711
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 541
No online boarding passes unfortunately, requires doc check.
Sep 10, 2017, 12:16 am
#712
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: PHX
Posts: 41
Thanks for the update. Did you just have the letter for visa on arrival that was good to transit or did you actually have to get the visa stamped? I have to do this twice about 3 months apart so wondering if letter is all you need, that way I don't have to apply for evisa twice or get visa on arrival app twice.
Sep 10, 2017, 6:49 am
#713
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AA EXP, Alaska MVP Gold 75k, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 24
Thanks for the update. Did you just have the letter for visa on arrival that was good to transit or did you actually have to get the visa stamped? I have to do this twice about 3 months apart so wondering if letter is all you need, that way I don't have to apply for evisa twice or get visa on arrival app twice.
For what it's worth, I did two trips (10 days apart) and simply used the eVisa twice ($25 each). The line for VOA typically pretty long, while I was able to walk right through immigration in around 5 minutes. The eVisa took around 2 days to get approved each time that I applied.
Sep 10, 2017, 9:49 am
#714
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 541
Thanks for the update. Did you just have the letter for visa on arrival that was good to transit or did you actually have to get the visa stamped? I have to do this twice about 3 months apart so wondering if letter is all you need, that way I don't have to apply for evisa twice or get visa on arrival app twice.
If you're not entering Vietnam, the VOA is the cheapest way to go to avoid airline hassles - there were less good looking sites that were cheaper if you're on a budget.
The VOA wasn't stamped or used - but does come with dates filled out. The 90 day ones are more expensive. I don't know what the airline would think about you entering towards the end of the validity period. I'd probably just buy two VOAs from someone cheaper - I saw some in the $9-14 range per person. You're looking at $20-25 per person for two separate VOAs, not worth the risk IMHO.
Alternatively you can budget an hour or so to argue with whatever airline is flying you to Vietnam and show them your SGN outbound tix and hope they give you the "if you don't make it into the country you're solely responsible for costs of transportation home" agreements. But $10-20pp is worth not dealing with the stress and uncertainty of that for me.
The transit check-in for QR opens promptly at 4:30PM.
Last edited by smachiz; Sep 10, 2017 at 10:40 am
Sep 14, 2017, 2:30 am
#716
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 254
I flew last week. When I got to check on counter agent informed me "sorry your outbound ticket is refunded but return is Ok "
It took multiple calls to Doha to fix. My advice validate if your ticket is open for use before going to airport or go airport four hours before flight
It took multiple calls to Doha to fix. My advice validate if your ticket is open for use before going to airport or go airport four hours before flight
Sep 14, 2017, 9:28 am
#717
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 20
I flew last week. When I got to check on counter agent informed me "sorry your outbound ticket is refunded but return is Ok "
It took multiple calls to Doha to fix. My advice validate if your ticket is open for use before going to airport or go airport four hours before flight
It took multiple calls to Doha to fix. My advice validate if your ticket is open for use before going to airport or go airport four hours before flight
Sep 15, 2017, 12:42 am
#719
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Here today gone tomorrow
Programs: *G, ow Saph
Posts: 2,865
Sep 15, 2017, 1:20 am
#720
Join Date: Aug 2016
Programs: BAEC GOLD
Posts: 283
Anyone know if I can get my BP from HKG? Will be routing through SGN. Understand luggage will not be an issue. I can check it all the way till the end.
Would like to do a 1:30 transit in SGN from HKG. CX to QR. I don't need a visa so am wondering if there is a transit facility where I don't need to leave airside
Would like to do a 1:30 transit in SGN from HKG. CX to QR. I don't need a visa so am wondering if there is a transit facility where I don't need to leave airside