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Freddorick Apr 4, 17 11:32 am

[PREM FARE GONE] TP: LGW - MPM in C - 3cpm
 
Good price with TAP to Africa.

For example:

LGW-MPM 28.12
MPM-LGW 06.01

for 750EUR which yields 24880 miles with Miles and More (3cpm). TSM is also possible, but served by an A320.

Fare is CUKEXI0G.

KarlPedal Apr 4, 17 12:27 pm

Assuming that TSM was a typo; TMS is available for ~€650

MightyTravels Apr 4, 17 2:05 pm


Originally Posted by Freddorick (Post 28128544)
Good price with TAP to Africa.

For example:

LGW-MPM 28.12
MPM-LGW 06.01

for 750EUR which yields 24880 miles with Miles and More (3cpm). TSM is also possible, but served by an A320.

Fare is CUKEXI0G.

Thanks for posting. I saw that on another forum too.

I saw similar fares to ACC, DKR but not to LAD (which is another major long haul TAP destination).

groovyfly Apr 4, 17 3:24 pm

Thanks
 
Thanks to OP for this.

In my books this is a spectacular deal, especially over New Years and with the *A-miles earned.

Will be celebrating in Maputo with the missus, save if we don't fly down to Cape Town.

Is this not an error fare?

Also GF says that the long haul LIS-MPM is angled flat, but from what I gather A340 is 180-lie down. Anybody with insights?

Airprox Apr 4, 17 3:59 pm

Doesn't look like it has to be LGW, appears to work on TP's LHR flights too, of which there are more so better connections.

dfs24 Apr 4, 17 8:47 pm

Fare pulled. Oh well. It's 1200+ GBP now. Good find though. Thanks OP

dfs24 Apr 4, 17 9:26 pm

My bad. Still live

vyap2000 Apr 4, 17 10:07 pm

It is econ fare. Isn't this forum for premium seats?

danger Apr 4, 17 10:21 pm


Originally Posted by groovyfly (Post 28129594)
Is this not an error fare?

No need to call it that.

Originally Posted by vyap2000 (Post 28131010)
It is econ fare. Isn't this forum for premium seats?

Matrix shows it as Business.

flyphilrun Apr 5, 17 12:19 am

Mozambique visas can be a bit of a hassle....

MightyTravels Apr 5, 17 12:32 am


Originally Posted by flyphilrun (Post 28131244)
Mozambique visas can be a bit of a hassle....

They just switched to VOA this week.

heb999 Apr 5, 17 1:57 am

I think that these fares have now gone. I can only seem to find prices in the £1250 range to MPM. TMS is on the A320 with the short haul business product.

flyphilrun Apr 5, 17 3:07 am


Originally Posted by MightyTravels (Post 28131281)
They just switched to VOA this week.


Really?? That would be amazing...

Stewie Mac Apr 5, 17 3:26 am


Originally Posted by MightyTravels (Post 28131281)
They just switched to VOA this week.

Has been VOA for years...

danger Apr 5, 17 3:26 am

Matrix to Priceline seems to bring is up for about USD760. I can go through to the payment page. And also Matrix to Cheapoair for a little under USD1000.

IAN-UK Apr 5, 17 3:31 am


Originally Posted by Stewie Mac (Post 28131605)
Has been VOA for years...


Then please tell the FCO and Mozambique High Commission.

foreign-travel-advice/mozambique/entry-requirements

flyphilrun Apr 5, 17 3:40 am


Originally Posted by Stewie Mac (Post 28131605)
Has been VOA for years...

Errrr, No it hasn't.

Stewie Mac Apr 5, 17 4:07 am


Originally Posted by IAN-UK (Post 28131620)
Then please tell the FCO and Mozambique High Commission.

foreign-travel-advice/mozambique/entry-requirements


Originally Posted by flyphilrun (Post 28131630)
Errrr, No it hasn't.

I know that the FCO says you need a visa, but from multiple personal experiences, VoA has absolutely been available for years.

See various posts on this in the Africa, African Airlines and Oneworld fora (on account of MPM being a very cheap starting place for AONE/DONE tickets for a while).

danger Apr 5, 17 4:35 am

I believe VOA depends on your nationality and, moreso, whether or not your country has a Tanzanian Embassy. Australia does not, so I know Australians are eligible for VOA, although the Embassy in Japan (which covers Australia) strongly recommends sending your passport to them in advance.

IAN-UK Apr 5, 17 4:53 am

Pretty sure you mean Mozambique embassy (or high commission). Their website indicates SADC states have visa-free access, others get VOA, while the rest need visas.

I guess the crunch is what TIMATIC says, the airline will rely on that to accept you for the flight.

Stewie Mac Apr 5, 17 5:09 am


Originally Posted by IAN-UK (Post 28131744)
Pretty sure you mean Mozambique embassy (or high commission). Their website indicates SADC states have visa-free access, others get VOA, while the rest need visas.

I guess the crunch is what TIMATIC says, the airline will rely on that to accept you for the flight.

and this is what TIMATIC says (for a UK passport holder)


Originally Posted by Timatic
Passengers with a British passport can obtain a visa on arrival at Beira (BEW), Nampula (APL), Maputo (MPM), Pemba (POL), Tete (TET) and Vilankulo (VNX) for a maximum stay of 30 days if they have a return/onward ticket, sufficient funds to support their stay and proof of purpose of visit. They can apply to extend their stay for an additional 30 days.


IAN-UK Apr 5, 17 5:33 am


Originally Posted by Stewie Mac (Post 28131782)
and this is what TIMATIC says (for a UK passport holder)

^^^

I'm on my mobile, so couldn't look it up. well, I could: but what a faff :D

johnnywho Apr 5, 17 7:47 am


Originally Posted by IAN-UK (Post 28131744)
Pretty sure you mean Mozambique embassy (or high commission). Their website indicates SADC states have visa-free access, others get VOA, while the rest need visas.

SADC stands for Southern African Development Community (SADC)

I just wanted to share this with the the rest of the ignorant guys around here, I had never ever heard of it myself and I guess it does not affect very many flyertalkers flying in from Europe.

nldogbert Apr 5, 17 9:23 am

Hi,

Tried to book this yesterday via Worldairfares.co.uk (travelcenter.co.uk) OTA, it went through ok, but since they don't have an automated ticketing system, they send these request to be ticketed manually.

Got a call today that the airline wanted to collect an additional 200 GBP, which I said now (jacks the price up to around 900 Euro).

Will try if I can still find the ~750Euro fare and book on another OTA.

Cheers!

MightyTravels Apr 5, 17 9:39 am

Mozambique visa policy is a bit of a basket case. Apparently VOA was always available but was meant as 'last resort' if your country had a Mozambique embassy. The last couple of years it had been really enforced that you needed to apply in advance at an embassy, especially for Americans. This has now changed for most nationalities and VOA is the 'official policy'.

http://www.iol.co.za/travel/travel-n...urists-8473344

So far I have never been turned down for a visa/VOA in Africa. Nobody has ever checked my passport for a valid visa before a flight to/inside Africa either. The VOA seems to be always an option if you are patient and bring enough $$$.

johnnywho Apr 5, 17 9:59 am


Originally Posted by nldogbert (Post 28132804)
Hi,

Tried to book this yesterday via Worldairfares.co.uk (travelcenter.co.uk) OTA, it went through ok, but since they don't have an automated ticketing system, they send these request to be ticketed manually.

Got a call today that the airline wanted to collect an additional 200 GBP, which I said now (jacks the price up to around 900 Euro).

Will try if I can still find the ~750Euro fare and book on another OTA.

Cheers!

I read some reviews about this particular OTA. This seems to be their standard procedure. Quite a few people wrote that the OTA called them and asked them for additional money. Expect to pay around 860€ if you go with a decent OTA like Expedia.

johnnywho Apr 5, 17 10:03 am


Originally Posted by MightyTravels (Post 28132878)
Mozambique visa policy is a bit of a basket case. Apparently VOA was always available but was meant as 'last resort' if your country had a Mozambique embassy. The last couple of years it had been really enforced that you needed to apply in advance at an embassy, especially for Americans. This has now changed for 44 nationalities and VOA is the 'official policy'.

http://www.iol.co.za/travel/travel-n...urists-8473344

So far I have never been turned down for a visa/VOA in Africa. Nobody has ever checked my passport for a valid visa before a flight to/inside Africa either. The VOA seems to be always an option if you are patient and bring enough $$$.

Thanks for the info, it really is confusing. I just wanted to point out that your article is referring to 44 border posts, not 44 nationalities.

MightyTravels Apr 5, 17 10:21 am


Originally Posted by johnnywho (Post 28133019)
Thanks for the info, it really is confusing. I just wanted to point out that your article is referring to 44 border posts, not 44 nationalities.

Changed that.

Stewie Mac Apr 5, 17 10:40 am


Originally Posted by MightyTravels (Post 28132878)

So far I have never been turned down for a visa/VOA in Africa. Nobody has ever checked my passport for a valid visa before a flight to/inside Africa either. The VOA seems to be always an option if you are patient and bring enough $$$.

There are very many countries in Africa that have no VOA option, and where airlines most certainly do check for a valid visa before travel. Please don't post such sweeping generalisations without at least some modicum of caveat, such as 'but I've never been to Angola/DRC/Nigeria/Cameroon so it might be different there'.

Moz is an easy one...

skunker Apr 5, 17 10:45 am

I just got a VOA at MPM on April 1 on a US passport. All official online sources say a VOA for most countries is not possible, but the actual experiences prove that is incorrect. Other passengers receiving a VOA at the same time as me were from Germany and Denmark.

See this thread for more information: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...m-transit.html

MightyTravels Apr 5, 17 10:45 am


Originally Posted by Stewie Mac (Post 28133230)
There are very many countries in Africa that have no VOA option, and where airlines most certainly do check for a valid visa before travel. Please don't post such sweeping generalisations without at least some modicum of caveat, such as 'but I've never been to Angola/DRC/Nigeria/Cameroon so it might be different there'.

Moz is an easy one...

I have been to most African countries incl. Nigeria and Cameroon and have trips planned to DRC and Angola. I got my visa for Nigeria and Cameroon beforehand but my statement is true nevertheless.

Of course you will go with an 'unofficial' VOA - but as a last resort it's better than loosing the flights.

a9504477 Apr 5, 17 11:04 am

Do is see this correctly that to ACC and TMS there is only "european business class" (ie. empty middle seat)?

recki2016 Apr 5, 17 11:19 am


Originally Posted by a9504477 (Post 28133372)
Do is see this correctly that to ACC and TMS there is only "european business class" (ie. empty middle seat)?

yes, exactly

cheap1982 Apr 5, 17 11:20 am

Looking at the seat maps for the A340 to MPM it looks like they are using an ancient aircraft. Photos and reviews seem to indicate the same, and Google Flights lists it as angled. Anyone with evidence to the contrary? :)

nldogbert Apr 5, 17 8:17 pm

Just to update: Found the "trick" to get it to price @ 710 Euro. Though sadly they charged a 15 Euro credit card surcharge.

Thanks to the OP for sharing. Looking forward to visit Mozambique next year. Hopefully by that time TAP would have upgraded their aircraft seats (this seems to be their future plans).

Cheers!

Palal Apr 5, 17 8:51 pm


Originally Posted by cheap1982 (Post 28133458)
Looking at the seat maps for the A340 to MPM it looks like they are using an ancient aircraft. Photos and reviews seem to indicate the same, and Google Flights lists it as angled. Anyone with evidence to the contrary? :)

The only lie-flats are some of the 330s (most of which should be upgraded soon).

nldogbert Apr 5, 17 9:02 pm


Originally Posted by Palal (Post 28135789)
The only lie-flats are some of the 330s (most of which should be upgraded soon).

I wonder which information is correct. Just checked the TAP website, and I see that they listed the A340 with a 180 deg recline.

https://www.flytap.com/en-nl/tap-exp...business-class

IAN-UK Apr 6, 17 1:49 am


Originally Posted by MightyTravels (Post 28132878)

So far I have never been turned down for a visa/VOA in Africa. Nobody has ever checked my passport for a valid visa before a flight to/inside Africa either. The VOA seems to be always an option if you are patient and bring enough $$$.


You have been incredibly fortunate.

While it's true that immigration systems can exercise goodwill in exceptional situations, nobody should rely on this happening: airlines most certainly don't.

IAN-UK Apr 6, 17 2:28 am


Originally Posted by johnnywho (Post 28132381)
SADC stands for Southern African Development Community (SADC)

I just wanted to share this with the the rest of the ignorant guys around here, I had never ever heard of it myself and I guess it does not affect very many flyertalkers flying in from Europe.

Sorry, I hang my head in shame - particularly as I campaign for use of airport names introducing routes in these threads, rather than three-letter codes (outside the obvious and well known airports...).

My inadequate excuse is we were already deep in PALOP-land (Países Africanos de Língua Official Portuguese - Portuguese speaking Africa) with TMS (São Tomé) bandied about as though it were another JFK :D



SADC's been around for over 35 years: it started life with an additional C (--Coordination Conference) and some people till refer to it as SADCC.

Interestingly they are battling towards visa-free travel between member states and a Schengen-style visa for visitors to the region. But don't hold your breath..

andymac66 Apr 6, 17 7:18 am


Originally Posted by nldogbert (Post 28135684)
Just to update: Found the "trick" to get it to price @ 710 Euro. Though sadly they charged a 15 Euro credit card surcharge.

Thanks to the OP for sharing. Looking forward to visit Mozambique next year. Hopefully by that time TAP would have upgraded their aircraft seats (this seems to be their future plans).

Cheers!


How did you get it down to 710 Euros? I can find It for £700 with an ota and I can't find any decent prices on ita today.


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