Last edit by: irishguy28
Unofficial cancellation statement from Alitalia: see post #2414, or the original post in Italian on a similar Italian forum
COW8C fare rules available in post #147 (second box)
DOW8C fare rules available in post #150
IOWGE fare rules available in post #1241
IRTGE fare rules available in post #1555
CRTEU fare rules available in post #1589
DOWGE fare rules available in post #1601
IRT8C2 fare rules available in post #2105
COW8C fare rules available in post #147 (second box)
DOW8C fare rules available in post #150
IOWGE fare rules available in post #1241
IRTGE fare rules available in post #1555
CRTEU fare rules available in post #1589
DOWGE fare rules available in post #1601
IRT8C2 fare rules available in post #2105
[PREM FARE GONE] FLR-HKG/ICN/NRT-DUS from 770€ / J
#3361
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London / Los Angeles
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Travelup is surprisingly quiet.
My outbound got cancelled/rebooked and I did not get any update from them.
Does this mean that they are searching for a solution since UK consumers respectively their customers are protected under UK consumer act 75?
That would be a bummer
My outbound got cancelled/rebooked and I did not get any update from them.
Does this mean that they are searching for a solution since UK consumers respectively their customers are protected under UK consumer act 75?
That would be a bummer
I guess I will call them tomorrow but my impression is that they are a pretty amateur site. As my flights have been changed to a different date, I am just going to make that the main point rather than get into the whole routing discussion.
My comment to them will be that "the flights have been changed to a date that does not work for me", please refund within 3 working days or I will have to pursue a chargeback. Ultimately as far as I am concerned they are the ones who charged me so they are the ones who have to provide the refund.
#3363
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: NAP
Programs: LH, BA, TK
Posts: 2,409
Called Travelup and they immediately said I had to call AZ.
I answered with a polite no way, you deal with the airline and eventually the agent agreed to call me back and let me know. Never happened, and it was 2 days ago.
#3364
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London / Los Angeles
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Posts: 1,631
Travelup and Orbitz did not even bother to send an email. Nothing.
Called Travelup and they immediately said I had to call AZ.
I answered with a polite no way, you deal with the airline and eventually the agent agreed to call me back and let me know. Never happened, and it was 2 days ago.
Called Travelup and they immediately said I had to call AZ.
I answered with a polite no way, you deal with the airline and eventually the agent agreed to call me back and let me know. Never happened, and it was 2 days ago.
Perhaps an imperfect analogy but still, OTAs charge us booking fees and get commission for basically acting as travel agents. If the airline has changed the booking, then as the travel agent we have booked with, they should resolve the matter with Alitalia.
#3365
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: HH
Posts: 8
Yes, you are absolutely right. It is the same 055 stock.I saw CX+number in my mail from OTA and quickly jumped to conclusion, it means CX stock. However its still AZ. Cheers, friend!
#3366
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: SEA once more (previously CDG and NRT)
Programs: Former DL DM and UA 1k, now a J class free agent (UA Gold, AS MVP Gold)
Posts: 2,450
In which case, you're probably one of the many who have a lingering reservation on another airline (CX in your case), but no longer have a valid ticket for that reservation. CX will eventually clean it up / delete it.
#3367
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Silver, SPG Gold, Hilton Gold, Melia Gold, Shangri-La Jade, BA Amex PP, Iberia+, Nandos Card
Posts: 1,523
My September 055 HKG return has now been rerouted. Expedia.co.uk directed me to Alitalia where I spoke with a very rude gentleman who (eventually) referred me back to Expedia. Got the 2-12 week refund quote at the third attempt, but Amex were very helpful and have initiated a chargeback (well two chargebacks given Expedia charged both tickets on the same order separately).
#3368
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Location: The Hague, NL
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Expedia just offered me a full refund for a ticket end of October they say has been changed by the airline. It looks intact everywhere but hey, ho. That would be the last of the Machiavellis for me.
#3369
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: TPA
Programs: WP
Posts: 372
If you can find the new e ticket number from all the other airline sites, you will see that e ticket now reflects what AZ has changed it to. If you have AF/KL flights, AF would show you the new ticket number using the AF/KL pnr in their MMB
AZ made it an even bigger mess by not cancelling the reservations outright.
AZ made it an even bigger mess by not cancelling the reservations outright.
#3371
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: YVR
Programs: AC MM
Posts: 1,478
Just an update on the refund.
I had talked with Expedia on Thursday, December 15th and the refunds for the 2 tickets I purchased for me and my son have shown up on my AMEX yesterday evening, December 17th.
The full amount was credited back without any other charges and was credited by Alitalia.
I was told it would take 5 - 8 weeks but I think that AZ is just giving themselves a buffer in case it takes longer.
A big thank you to Alitalia and Expedia. Despite of having dealt with it somewhat odd, they kept their promise and have refunded the full amount. I am sure everyone will get their refunds as well rather sooner than later.
This was an exciting 8 days or so and while it didn't quite work out in our favor, it's been a great lesson and in the end this has worked out for the better - already made alternative flight arrangements with SQ instead.
I had talked with Expedia on Thursday, December 15th and the refunds for the 2 tickets I purchased for me and my son have shown up on my AMEX yesterday evening, December 17th.
The full amount was credited back without any other charges and was credited by Alitalia.
I was told it would take 5 - 8 weeks but I think that AZ is just giving themselves a buffer in case it takes longer.
A big thank you to Alitalia and Expedia. Despite of having dealt with it somewhat odd, they kept their promise and have refunded the full amount. I am sure everyone will get their refunds as well rather sooner than later.
This was an exciting 8 days or so and while it didn't quite work out in our favor, it's been a great lesson and in the end this has worked out for the better - already made alternative flight arrangements with SQ instead.
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#3372
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 2
Where is the Businessclass?
Hi,
I didn´t read all of the thread but most.
My question is: where is the businessclass?
At the first part FLR-FCO there is no. That I already knowed when I booked. But on the second part I was rerouted to (FCO-DUS) there is no businessclass too.
The second part is with the Embraer 175, which has just "Economy|Comfort seat" (Alitalia name).
May this be the reason, why they try to cancel by our own? Because they know their reason -it was a businessclass flight FLR-DUS with one stop in FCO- is just a lie to cancel the legal flights?
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there is an other post with nearly the same content from me (#3350). It need much time that the mod accept, I thougt it was deleted, so I posted again. Sry for confusion.
I didn´t read all of the thread but most.
My question is: where is the businessclass?
At the first part FLR-FCO there is no. That I already knowed when I booked. But on the second part I was rerouted to (FCO-DUS) there is no businessclass too.
The second part is with the Embraer 175, which has just "Economy|Comfort seat" (Alitalia name).
May this be the reason, why they try to cancel by our own? Because they know their reason -it was a businessclass flight FLR-DUS with one stop in FCO- is just a lie to cancel the legal flights?
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there is an other post with nearly the same content from me (#3350). It need much time that the mod accept, I thougt it was deleted, so I posted again. Sry for confusion.
Last edited by Fling; Dec 18, 2016 at 3:59 pm Reason: double post
#3373
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Berlin, TXL
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Posts: 339
EY will only provide an stopover package if your layover is more than 2 days
#3374
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
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Posts: 18,323
Hi,
I didn´t read all of the thread but most.
My question is: where is the businessclass?
At the first part FLR-FCO there is no. That I already knowed when I booked. But on the second part I was rerouted to (FCO-DUS) there is no businessclass too.
The second part is with the Embraer 175, which has just "Economy|Comfort seat" (Alitalia name).
May this be the reason, why they try to cancel by our own? Because they know their reason -it was a businessclass flight FLR-DUS with one stop in FCO- is just a lie to cancel the legal flights?
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there is an other post with nearly the same content from me (#3350). It need much time that the mod accept, I thougt it was deleted, so I posted again. Sry for confusion.
I didn´t read all of the thread but most.
My question is: where is the businessclass?
At the first part FLR-FCO there is no. That I already knowed when I booked. But on the second part I was rerouted to (FCO-DUS) there is no businessclass too.
The second part is with the Embraer 175, which has just "Economy|Comfort seat" (Alitalia name).
May this be the reason, why they try to cancel by our own? Because they know their reason -it was a businessclass flight FLR-DUS with one stop in FCO- is just a lie to cancel the legal flights?
----
there is an other post with nearly the same content from me (#3350). It need much time that the mod accept, I thougt it was deleted, so I posted again. Sry for confusion.
#3375
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Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: New York, NY, USA
Posts: 12,482
There must be a legal reason for AZ to re-route instead of cancel. They are creating more work for themselves as well. The fact that many have their OTA itineraries intact while tickets reissued, which may not have been intentional, may come back to haunt AZ.