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Is the fare being honored? For all carriers? Yes, and yes, so far it seems we have EY, EK, QR and BA segments that seem to have worked fine.

Can I make changes to my ticket before I fly the first segment? There haven't been any reports of this yet. While technically you should be able to make changes to other than the first segment prior to flying, it's unlikely you'll get an agent to do that. If you booked through a travel agent, your agent may be able to do this. If you booked through an online OTA, it's unlikely. But give it a try and report back.

Can I make changes once I have flown the first segment? There is at least one report from a FT member that they checked with a BA agent in London about changing routing and moving to the LHR-LAX A380 and that member didn't get any resistance or any indication there would be any amount collected (this FT member ultimately didn't make the change so the ticket wasn't actually reissued). From all reports, BA hasn't done anything to mark these fares, so being what they are (fully flex F), you should be able to make changes in LHR, even rerouting and your transAtl segment and adding additional segments within the US on AA, assuming there is space at the last minute.

Dates Routing Booking Engine Member

April

May

June

July

August
Aug20 DXB-DOH-LHR(QR F)-LAX(BA F)-JFK-AUS, Travelocity, jona970318 +1

September

October

November

December
28Dec XNB-AUH(EY bus) 29Dec AUH-LHR(EY A380)-LAX(BA A380) 30Dec LAX-AUS(AS), Expedia, Stephem x5 pax

January
2Jan DXB-LHR(BA F)-LAX(BA F)-AUS(AS), Expedia Tariq 3 pax
3Jan DXB-DOH-LHR(QR F)-LAX(BA F)-AUS(AA), Expedia, ChurchofTee 1 pax
3Jan DXB-DOH-LHR(QR F)-LAX(BA F)-JFK-AUS, Travelocity, jona970318
February


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Search: Departing DXB on 06/01/15 for AUS
 Fare basis code F1MEOW
 Flying BA
 Routing via North Atlantic
 





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RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS    NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
   VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
   AREA2/AREA3 TO UNITED STATES FULLY-FLEX PREMIUM/WORLD
   TRAVELLERPLUS/WORLD TRAVELLER FARES.
   APPLICATION
    AREA
     THESE FARES APPLY
      FROM AREA 2/AREA 3
      TO UNITED STATES.
    CLASS OF SERVICE
     THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS
      SERVICE.
    TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
     FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
      ROUND-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
    CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
     THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
      CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
      THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
      AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
      WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
      FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST
      JUDGEMENT.
 
ELIGIBILITY    NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
 
DAY/TIME    NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
 
SEASONALITY    NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
 
FLIGHT APPLICATION    NO FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
 
ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING    NO ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
 
MINIMUM STAY    NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
 
MAXIMUM STAY    NO MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
 
STOPOVERS    UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE OUTBOUND AND ON
   THE INBOUND FARE COMPONENTS.
 
TRANSFERS    UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
   FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON
   THE FARE COMPONENT.
 
COMBINATIONS     SINGLE/DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS NOT
    PERMITTED.
   END-ON-END
     END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
     COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO
     RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF
     COMBINATION.
 
BLACKOUT DATES    NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
 
SURCHARGES    FARE RULE
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          MANDATORY TO ISSUE E TICKETS ON ANY JOURNEY WHICH
          IS E-TICKETABLE. ISSUANCE OF A PAPER TICKET WOULD
          ATTRACT A CHARGE OF AED 500.
 
   GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
   IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
   AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
         TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR IB.
     MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 150.00 PER
     DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
     ANY PASSENGER.
   IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
   AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
         TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AA.
     MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 150.00 PER
     DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
     ANY PASSENGER.
   IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
   AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
         TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AS.
     MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 150.00 PER
     DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
     ANY PASSENGER.
   IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
   AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
         TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR QF.
     MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 150.00 PER
     DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
     ANY PASSENGER.
   IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
   AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
         TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AY.
     MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 150.00 PER
     DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
     ANY PASSENGER.
   IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
   AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
         TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR US.
     MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 150.00 PER
     DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
     ANY PASSENGER.
   IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11.
     MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 150.00 PER
     DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER
     ANY PASSENGER.
     AND - ORIGINATING NORTH AMERICA -
       FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 705.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
       ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
     AND - ORIGINATING MIDDLE EAST -
       FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 554.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
       ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
   THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
   TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR IB.
   OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AA.
   OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AS.
   OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR QF.
   OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR AY.
   OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF BA OR US.
     THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE PER ANY PASSENGER.
   ORIGINATING NORTH AMERICA -
     FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 705.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
     ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
     AND - ORIGINATING MIDDLE EAST -
       FUEL SURCHARGE OF USD 554.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
       ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
 
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL    ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
 
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS    NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
 
SALES RESTRICTIONS    FARE RULE
   ORIGINATING UNITED ARAB EMIRATES -
     TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
 
   GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
   TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN ARGENTINA/VENEZUELA.
   TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
 
PENALTIES          NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          NO PENALTIES UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
          REFUND WITHOUT PENALTY PERMITTED AT ANY TIME
          UNLIMITED CHANGES WITHOUT PENALTY PERMITTED
          AT ANY TIME
          ----------------------------------------------
          A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/RESERVATION
          CHANGE
          ----------------------------------------------
          CANCELLATIONS ARE PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
          OF ORIGINAL TICKET
          -----------------------------------------------
          PARTIALLY USED TICKETS-
          REFUND THE DIFFERENCE - IF ANY - BETWEEN THE FARE
          PAID AND THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED
          -------------------------------------------
          WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A
          NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS ANY APPLICABLE
          PENALTY
          2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE
          FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
          --------------------------------------------
          //CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
          1.WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
          ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED
          2.WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
          COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
          THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING
          HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS
          TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT
          ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-WHICHEVER IS
          LOWER.
          -----------------------------------------------
          //CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
          THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE
          -----------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE
          THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED
          -----------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE A
          REFUND OF THE RESIDUAL LESS ANY APPLICABLE PENALTY
          WILL BE MADE
          ------------------------------------------------
 
HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS    NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.
 
TICKET ENDORSEMENTS    TICKET ENDORSEMENT NOT REQUIRED.
 
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS    CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR UNDER 12 - CHARGE 75
     PERCENT OF THE FARE.
         TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
     MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
       COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
   OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
          PERCENT OF THE FARE.
              TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
          MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
            COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
   OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10
          PERCENT OF THE FARE.
              TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
          MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
            COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
   OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
          PERCENT OF THE FARE.
              TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
 
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS          NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
          AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
 
AGENT DISCOUNTS    FARE RULE
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
           AGENTS DISCOUNTS PERMITTED
 
   GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
          AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
 
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS    NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.
 
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS    NO PROVISIONS APPLY.
 
FARE BY RULE    NOT APPLICABLE.
 
GROUPS    NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
 
TOURS    NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
 
VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY    NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
 
DEPOSITS    NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
 
VOLUNTARY CHANGES    IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
   BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
   CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
   BY THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES
   NO CHARGE CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
   COMPONENTS AND
     REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
     PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
     1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT
     2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
     MUST BE DOMESTIC
     3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
     4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
     5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
     DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
     OR -
     REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
     PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
     1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
     MUST BE DOMESTIC
     2. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
     3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
     DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
   WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN
   ADD-COLLECT
   ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
   ENDORSEMENTS.
   OR -
   AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
   CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
   BY THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES
   NO CHARGE CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
   COMPONENTS AND
     REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
     PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
     1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
     MUST BE DOMESTIC
     2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
     3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
     4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
     5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
     DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
   WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE REFUND RESIDUAL THEN
   ADD-COLLECT
   ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
   ENDORSEMENTS.
.
 
VOLUNTARY REFUNDS    NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
 
NEGOTIATED FARES    NOT APPLICABLE.
 
INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION    NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
Originally Posted by k_getchell
Depends on if they're AA coded or BA coded and whether you have elite status or not. Also depends on what program you credit to - below are the numbers for AAdvantage.

Base Miles:
DXB-LHR - 3421
LHR-LAX - 5456
LAX-AUS - 1242

BA Coded Flights get you:
DXB-LHR
EQM = 3421
EQP = 5131
RDM = 5131 (non Elite), 6842 (AA Gold), 8552 (AA Plat and EXP)

LHR-LAX
EQM = 5456
EQP = 8184
RDM = 8184 (non Elite), 10912 (AA Gold), 13640 (AA Plat and EXP)

LAX-AUS
EQM = 1242
EQP = 1863
RDM = 1863 (non Elite), 2484 (AA Gold), 3105 (AA Plat and EXP)

AA Coded Flights get you (assuming you take the flights are 5/15/2015):
DXB-LHR
EQM = 3421
EQP = 6842 (booked in A), 10263 (booked in F)
RDM = 11131 (non Elite), 12842 (AA Gold), 14552 (AA Plat), 20552 (AA EXP)

LHR-LAX
EQM = 5456
EQP = 10912 (booked in A), 16368 (booked in F)
RDM = 14184 (non Elite), 16912 (AA Gold), 19640 (AA Plat), 25640 (AA EXP)

LAX-AUS
EQM = 1242
EQP = 2484 (booked in A), 3726 (booked in F)
RDM = 2363 (non Elite), 2984 (AA Gold), 4005 (AA Plat), 4105 (AA EXP)

This is a very quick estimate so there might be errors in it. I recommend you double check the calculations before taking them as accurate I can't recall if the fare books into A or F fare buckets so for the AA coded flights I've given both numbers as a guide. I've also assumed you're flying on either a BA or AA operated flight.
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Old Jun 16, 2015, 9:49 pm
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
Bearing in mind you were trying to add 6000 miles onto the ticket Were there any restrictions for MPM with this fare?
I posted it a long time ago.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24898715-post668.html

He was way over.
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=dxb-lhr-lax-jfk-phx-aus
Going back to PHX is too much.
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Old Jun 16, 2015, 9:54 pm
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Originally Posted by skunker
I posted it a long time ago.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24898715-post668.html

He was way over.
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=dxb-lhr-lax-jfk-phx-aus
Going back to PHX is too much.
sorry! Yup just found your post. Way over!
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Old Jun 16, 2015, 10:23 pm
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It does appear to be possible for a slight cost to add flights from LAX back to JFK and the charge for blowing through MPM appears to be $200 or so based on those who have inquired (and gotten an agent using historical fare pricing) and as I recall a few of the people who booked this way on day 1 (and reported slightly higher fares as a result).
Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
Bearing in mind you were trying to add 6000 miles onto the ticket Were there any restrictions for MPM with this fare?
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Old Jun 16, 2015, 11:19 pm
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Originally Posted by stephem
It does appear to be possible for a slight cost to add flights from LAX back to JFK and the charge for blowing through MPM appears to be $200 or so based on those who have inquired (and gotten an agent using historical fare pricing) and as I recall a few of the people who booked this way on day 1 (and reported slightly higher fares as a result).
True, but he requested LAX-JFK-PHX-AUS. I don't think anyone has had that work.
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Old Jun 16, 2015, 11:57 pm
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Originally Posted by skunker
True, but he requested LAX-JFK-PHX-AUS. I don't think anyone has had that work.
Do you think I would have had a better chance of success if I'd just requested dxb-lhr-lax-jfk-aus?

I probably got greedy with maximising tier points
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Old Jun 17, 2015, 12:06 am
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Originally Posted by WillR
Do you think I would have had a better chance of success if I'd just requested dxb-lhr-lax-jfk-aus?

I probably got greedy with maximising tier points
The way it played out means it's difficult to tell. Others have reported dxb-lhr-lax-jfk-aus so YMMV.

However that was reported a while ago so it might just be that BA are now more aware of this fare/ticket scenario and are being less helpful in offering flexibility.
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Old Jun 17, 2015, 8:42 am
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Originally Posted by WillR
Do you think I would have had a better chance of success if I'd just requested dxb-lhr-lax-jfk-aus?

I probably got greedy with maximising tier points
Yes, I believe someone asked about changing to a similar routing last week. See the post by autobahnal. The routing you requested was way over the 125% MPM, which means you have to split the fare. That is the reason for the huge fare increase.
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Old Jun 17, 2015, 10:28 am
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This thread is a great resource. Thanks to all who have posted.

I have an Orbitz issued ticket routing DXB-LHR-JFK-AUS on BA (125) stock. First flight is on QF using the QF flight number. Connection in LHR is 2h10m. I would love to take a later flight to JFK that day and defer the JFK-AUS flight to the next morning. I called Orbitz and they said any change would require a re-price, which seems wrong based on the information presented. Should I try to call BA?

The current flight I am on is F1A1 and the later flight is F9A9, so BA may well welcome the change.
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Old Jun 17, 2015, 10:35 am
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Originally Posted by PresRDC
This thread is a great resource. Thanks to all who have posted.

I have an Orbitz issued ticket routing DXB-LHR-JFK-AUS on BA (125) stock. First flight is on QF using the QF flight number. Connection in LHR is 2h10m. I would love to take a later flight to JFK that day and defer the JFK-AUS flight to the next morning. I called Orbitz and they said any change would require a re-price, which seems wrong based on the information presented. Should I try to call BA?

The current flight I am on is F1A1 and the later flight is F9A9, so BA may well welcome the change.
Orbitz is technically correct if you go by the fare rules. Others have had luck changing legs other than the first prior to flying. It is going to be a YMMV and HUACA situation.

I have had luck on other fares getting Orbitz to make changes to J and F tickets that while allowed (e.g. stopovers) should have triggered a HIP check and reprice. I have not tried with this fare yet.
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Old Jun 17, 2015, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by skunker
Orbitz is technically correct if you go by the fare rules. Others have had luck changing legs other than the first prior to flying. It is going to be a YMMV and HUACA situation.

I have had luck on other fares getting Orbitz to make changes to J and F tickets that while allowed (e.g. stopovers) should have triggered a HIP check and reprice. I have not tried with this fare yet.
Orbitz is very much correct. The chances of a non-repriced change before taking the first segment are extremely slim.
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Old Jun 17, 2015, 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by qasr
Orbitz is very much correct. The chances of a non-repriced change before taking the first segment are extremely slim.
See post 735.
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Thanks.

What is meant by a "fare component"? The first fare component is clearly not the DXB-LHR leg, so what, exactly is it?

Also, what is a HIP check?
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Originally Posted by skunker
See post 735.
Buying a lottery ticket isn't a strategy to becoming rich.

Fundamentally, a fare changed before departure will be repriced at current fares.
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Originally Posted by PresRDC
Thanks.

What is meant by a "fare component"? The first fare component is clearly not the DXB-LHR leg, so what, exactly is it?

Also, what is a HIP check?
The fare component is DXB-AUS, that is, the fare that you're buying. Sometimes you can have multiple on one reservation, i.e. JFK-LAX and return LAX-JFK. But these fares didn't allow that, (unless you wanted to pay full price for the fare) so you only have one fare component.

A HIP check is the higher intermediate point check, where by, if you travel say, from DXB-LHR, stopover and then LHR-AUS, the check would see if either is more expensive then the whole fare would increase to whichever is higher. This is why there isn't any feasible stopover options on this fare (without a large increase.)
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Originally Posted by qasr
Buying a lottery ticket isn't a strategy to becoming rich.

Fundamentally, a fare changed before departure will be repriced at current fares.
Actually it is a strategy. The odds may not be in your favor, but you would be rich if you won.

You are trying to make this a black and white issue but it has been shown there are shades of gray.
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