Apr 4, 2014, 10:50 am
Last edit by: cesco.g
There are two categories of US cities involved, DL hubs and other, generally secondary, airports.
From some DL Hubs, UA P fares are valid to a much wider range of cities in Europe:
SLC/MSP/DTW/ATL/CVG/MEM-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/BUD/PRG/CPH/IST/WAW/ARN/OSL/KRK/PRG/TLL/RIX/etc
(but not JFK nor LAX?)
Other airports are valid to a smaller set of cities in Europe:
BOS/SJC/SMF/MOD/BWI/BUR/ONT/SNA/PSP/HNL/SEA/PDX/AUS/PIT/TUS/TPA/ALB/etc/etc-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/etc
Most UA hubs don't have the fare filed (not SFO for sure), but apparently EWR has at least EWR-VCE/NCE (but not EWR-MXP/PMO/FCO/CDG)
Some destinations in Europe have a slightly higher base fare:
MRS/LYS
(please add more cities to either origin or destination side that are valid)
Be careful in your airline selection - there are PQM/RDM implications to this. For example, for the UA program, UA P earns 150% PQM/RDM, LH P earns 100% PQM/RDM, and it appears that OS P earns nothing.
Similarly it looks like UA P class credited to Aegean (A3) earns nothing. Visit this United webpage then click on the Star Alliance partner to determine mileage earnings.
From some DL Hubs, UA P fares are valid to a much wider range of cities in Europe:
SLC/MSP/DTW/ATL/CVG/MEM-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/BUD/PRG/CPH/IST/WAW/ARN/OSL/KRK/PRG/TLL/RIX/etc
(but not JFK nor LAX?)
Other airports are valid to a smaller set of cities in Europe:
BOS/SJC/SMF/MOD/BWI/BUR/ONT/SNA/PSP/HNL/SEA/PDX/AUS/PIT/TUS/TPA/ALB/etc/etc-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/etc
Most UA hubs don't have the fare filed (not SFO for sure), but apparently EWR has at least EWR-VCE/NCE (but not EWR-MXP/PMO/FCO/CDG)
Some destinations in Europe have a slightly higher base fare:
MRS/LYS
(please add more cities to either origin or destination side that are valid)
Be careful in your airline selection - there are PQM/RDM implications to this. For example, for the UA program, UA P earns 150% PQM/RDM, LH P earns 100% PQM/RDM, and it appears that OS P earns nothing.
Similarly it looks like UA P class credited to Aegean (A3) earns nothing. Visit this United webpage then click on the Star Alliance partner to determine mileage earnings.
[FARE GONE] Lots of UA ATL-AMS (and other cities) Z fares; less than $2k for July
Apr 4, 2014, 12:23 pm
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These will be tickets where doing retroactive/missing mileage credit claims will be my routine because of the complexity where P fares on some operating carriers earn miles in some Star Alliance programs but not in all Star Alliance programs. I will be leaving out my Star Alliance FFP numbers from my bookings on these tickets.
Apr 4, 2014, 12:27 pm
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From Europe to the US, I've not yet come across such a big summer deal.
Apr 4, 2014, 12:33 pm
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I was looking at BUR-FLR/VCE/FCO (as BUR is the closest airport to me) and finding almost nothing (looking end of August/early Sept.) - but, more importantly, I couldn't find anything longer than 1 week.
Resigned myself to a short trip, then suddenly discovered that SNA-FCO was wiiiiiiiide open. A bit far for me to drive to, but ended up booking 8/23-9/4 - and for less money than ex-BUR, all on UA metal and only 1 stop each way!
[EDIT: This was an accurate image for those dates as of about an hour ago, i.e. 7 AM PDT/10 AM EDT.]
Resigned myself to a short trip, then suddenly discovered that SNA-FCO was wiiiiiiiide open. A bit far for me to drive to, but ended up booking 8/23-9/4 - and for less money than ex-BUR, all on UA metal and only 1 stop each way!
[EDIT: This was an accurate image for those dates as of about an hour ago, i.e. 7 AM PDT/10 AM EDT.]
Apr 4, 2014, 12:44 pm
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Apr 4, 2014, 12:46 pm
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I am TK Gold and want to credit there, can someone quickly help me out?
Looks like for the LH group carriers on a P fare that TK program would credit ZERO? Ugh, so I have to be UA ticketed/metal to get credit (150%, so that is good)?
Looks like for the LH group carriers on a P fare that TK program would credit ZERO? Ugh, so I have to be UA ticketed/metal to get credit (150%, so that is good)?
Apr 4, 2014, 12:51 pm
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Apr 4, 2014, 12:59 pm
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Booked using miles to Europe on LH F late last year through YYZ for summer time but now tempted to cancel and just purchase a Business ticket instead.
Last year I booked SFO-MAD in UA P class for around $1,900, so better deal this time around.
Last year I booked SFO-MAD in UA P class for around $1,900, so better deal this time around.
Apr 4, 2014, 12:59 pm
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I might have just booked....
BWI-EWR-SFO-HNL upgraded with RPU
HNL-IAD-CDG P
CDG-SFO-HNL P
HNL-LAX-LAS P
LAS-IAH-DCA P
I needed to go to Vegas anyways
Hopefully 48 hrs in Paris will be enough to visit my last country in Europe...ANDORRA!
I might have just booked....
BWI-EWR-SFO-HNL upgraded with RPU
HNL-IAD-CDG P
CDG-SFO-HNL P
HNL-LAX-LAS P
LAS-IAH-DCA P
I needed to go to Vegas anyways
Hopefully 48 hrs in Paris will be enough to visit my last country in Europe...ANDORRA!
Apr 4, 2014, 1:06 pm
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Apr 4, 2014, 1:07 pm
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Grabbed roundtrip EWR-VCE in July for $1,500.
Outbound EWR-FRA (United Metal)...FRA-VCE (LH Metal)
Return VCE-VIE-EWR (all Austrian Metal-excited to try their Business Class)
All showing as "P" class.
I see that there's a chance the Austrian P Fare will earn us zero...I'm actually fine with that...don't need the PQMs and for the price I'm happy.
Also booked at an OTA and the full itinerary instantly showed up in my .bomb reservations.
Outbound EWR-FRA (United Metal)...FRA-VCE (LH Metal)
Return VCE-VIE-EWR (all Austrian Metal-excited to try their Business Class)
All showing as "P" class.
I see that there's a chance the Austrian P Fare will earn us zero...I'm actually fine with that...don't need the PQMs and for the price I'm happy.
Also booked at an OTA and the full itinerary instantly showed up in my .bomb reservations.
Apr 4, 2014, 1:11 pm
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Grabbed roundtrip EWR-VCE in July for $1,500.
Outbound EWR-FRA (United Metal)...FRA-VCE (LH Metal)
Return VCE-VIE-EWR (all Austrian Metal-excited to try their Business Class)
All showing as "P" class.
I see that there's a chance the Austrian P Fare will earn us zero...I'm actually fine with that...don't need the PQMs and for the price I'm happy.
Also booked at an OTA and the full itinerary instantly showed up in my .bomb reservations.
Outbound EWR-FRA (United Metal)...FRA-VCE (LH Metal)
Return VCE-VIE-EWR (all Austrian Metal-excited to try their Business Class)
All showing as "P" class.
I see that there's a chance the Austrian P Fare will earn us zero...I'm actually fine with that...don't need the PQMs and for the price I'm happy.
Also booked at an OTA and the full itinerary instantly showed up in my .bomb reservations.
Apr 4, 2014, 1:20 pm
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