Apr 4, 2014, 10:50 am
Last edit by: cesco.g
There are two categories of US cities involved, DL hubs and other, generally secondary, airports.
From some DL Hubs, UA P fares are valid to a much wider range of cities in Europe:
SLC/MSP/DTW/ATL/CVG/MEM-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/BUD/PRG/CPH/IST/WAW/ARN/OSL/KRK/PRG/TLL/RIX/etc
(but not JFK nor LAX?)
Other airports are valid to a smaller set of cities in Europe:
BOS/SJC/SMF/MOD/BWI/BUR/ONT/SNA/PSP/HNL/SEA/PDX/AUS/PIT/TUS/TPA/ALB/etc/etc-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/etc
Most UA hubs don't have the fare filed (not SFO for sure), but apparently EWR has at least EWR-VCE/NCE (but not EWR-MXP/PMO/FCO/CDG)
Some destinations in Europe have a slightly higher base fare:
MRS/LYS
(please add more cities to either origin or destination side that are valid)
Be careful in your airline selection - there are PQM/RDM implications to this. For example, for the UA program, UA P earns 150% PQM/RDM, LH P earns 100% PQM/RDM, and it appears that OS P earns nothing.
Similarly it looks like UA P class credited to Aegean (A3) earns nothing. Visit this United webpage then click on the Star Alliance partner to determine mileage earnings.
From some DL Hubs, UA P fares are valid to a much wider range of cities in Europe:
SLC/MSP/DTW/ATL/CVG/MEM-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/BUD/PRG/CPH/IST/WAW/ARN/OSL/KRK/PRG/TLL/RIX/etc
(but not JFK nor LAX?)
Other airports are valid to a smaller set of cities in Europe:
BOS/SJC/SMF/MOD/BWI/BUR/ONT/SNA/PSP/HNL/SEA/PDX/AUS/PIT/TUS/TPA/ALB/etc/etc-AMS/MXP/FCO/CDG/MLA/VCE/TRN/FLR/NAP/PMO/CTA/etc
Most UA hubs don't have the fare filed (not SFO for sure), but apparently EWR has at least EWR-VCE/NCE (but not EWR-MXP/PMO/FCO/CDG)
Some destinations in Europe have a slightly higher base fare:
MRS/LYS
(please add more cities to either origin or destination side that are valid)
Be careful in your airline selection - there are PQM/RDM implications to this. For example, for the UA program, UA P earns 150% PQM/RDM, LH P earns 100% PQM/RDM, and it appears that OS P earns nothing.
Similarly it looks like UA P class credited to Aegean (A3) earns nothing. Visit this United webpage then click on the Star Alliance partner to determine mileage earnings.
[FARE GONE] Lots of UA ATL-AMS (and other cities) Z fares; less than $2k for July
Apr 3, 2014, 10:22 pm
#421
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,962
In for 3 for my Family! Back to Venice and Milano again.
LAS-IAH UA
IAH-FRA LH A380 !!
FRA-VCE LH
VCE- EWR UA whtvr
Now I need to find a babysitter for the trip so we can relax
Im predicting we will see cheaper fares in Business to Europe for the next while. They will keep going up in price a few hundred at a time. UA want to see how much they can get people to pay for business regularly. Anyone else think if that?
LAS-IAH UA
IAH-FRA LH A380 !!
FRA-VCE LH
VCE- EWR UA whtvr
Now I need to find a babysitter for the trip so we can relax
Im predicting we will see cheaper fares in Business to Europe for the next while. They will keep going up in price a few hundred at a time. UA want to see how much they can get people to pay for business regularly. Anyone else think if that?
Apr 3, 2014, 10:22 pm
#422
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb
Posts: 5,510
Apr 3, 2014, 10:23 pm
#423
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: DEN
Programs: UA 1K (MM), DL, AA, AS, HHonors, SPG, Kimpton, Hyatt, IC PC, Marriott Titanium (LT PLT), Hertz PC
Posts: 7,231
This is bananas...
Even more bananas is that I'm sticking with the Q fares I booked to AMS a few hours ago for a July trip (with GPU wait listed) because I need the PQDs
Even more bananas is that I'm sticking with the Q fares I booked to AMS a few hours ago for a July trip (with GPU wait listed) because I need the PQDs
Apr 3, 2014, 10:27 pm
#425
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: DEN
Programs: UA 1K (MM), DL, AA, AS, HHonors, SPG, Kimpton, Hyatt, IC PC, Marriott Titanium (LT PLT), Hertz PC
Posts: 7,231
If the answer to the first question is "no" or the second question is "yes", then there's your answer.
Apr 3, 2014, 10:29 pm
#426
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: UA Plt HertzpresC Avisfirst
Posts: 119
Why don't you cancel that and book one of these. This way you save your money, save your GPUs and your guaranteed business. At the end of the year, if you don't have enough pqd's then you can book your last trip/trips on a higher fares.
Apr 3, 2014, 10:34 pm
#427
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: DEN
Programs: UA 1K (MM), DL, AA, AS, HHonors, SPG, Kimpton, Hyatt, IC PC, Marriott Titanium (LT PLT), Hertz PC
Posts: 7,231
1) I don't really want to deal with getting from Boulder to COS (right now my ticket's out of DEN)
2) I really, really need the PQDs. Currently at about $1k PQDs for 20k PQMs. With this AMS trip I'm at about $3.3k PQDs for 35k PQMs, which is a much better ratio to get back to 1k. I don't have the luxury of many additional trips, so I'll take them where I can get them.
3) It's a work trip, and going through the paperwork of "justifying" business class, even when the price is significantly better, is a real headache.
Apr 3, 2014, 10:46 pm
#428
Moderator: Mileage Run, United Airlines; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: The City/Honolulu
Programs: UA 3MM; Hyatt Glob*****; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 14,473
SLC in addition to the CDG, AMS and Italy...
PRG
WAW
ZAG
BUD
CPH
DUB
TRS
KRK
SOF
VCE
BEG
KTW
SPU
DBV
GDN
PRG
WAW
ZAG
BUD
CPH
DUB
TRS
KRK
SOF
VCE
BEG
KTW
SPU
DBV
GDN
Last edited by Pat89339; Apr 3, 2014 at 10:59 pm
Apr 3, 2014, 10:47 pm
#429
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 693
A few reasons, really:
1) I don't really want to deal with getting from Boulder to COS (right now my ticket's out of DEN)
2) I really, really need the PQDs. Currently at about $1k PQDs for 20k PQMs. With this AMS trip I'm at about $3.3k PQDs for 35k PQMs, which is a much better ratio to get back to 1k. I don't have the luxury of many additional trips, so I'll take them where I can get them.
3) It's a work trip, and going through the paperwork of "justifying" business class, even when the price is significantly better, is a real headache.
1) I don't really want to deal with getting from Boulder to COS (right now my ticket's out of DEN)
2) I really, really need the PQDs. Currently at about $1k PQDs for 20k PQMs. With this AMS trip I'm at about $3.3k PQDs for 35k PQMs, which is a much better ratio to get back to 1k. I don't have the luxury of many additional trips, so I'll take them where I can get them.
3) It's a work trip, and going through the paperwork of "justifying" business class, even when the price is significantly better, is a real headache.
Apr 3, 2014, 10:48 pm
#430
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,962
Nevermind. No lie-flat for business class! http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Luf...irbus_A380.php
Apr 3, 2014, 11:05 pm
#433
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
Programs: BMI Diamond Club Gold forever
Posts: 6,367
If you are flying LH, make sure to get the 747-800, thru ORD its LH431 and gives you fully flat seat as per this photo.
http://www.btmagazine.nl/wp-content/...ess-Class1.jpg
I agree w other posters, other LH business product is pretty weak.
http://www.btmagazine.nl/wp-content/...ess-Class1.jpg
I agree w other posters, other LH business product is pretty weak.
Apr 3, 2014, 11:09 pm
#434
Community Director Emerita
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Anywhere warm
Posts: 33,742
If you are flying LH, make sure to get the 747-800, thru ORD its LH431 and gives you fully flat seat as per this photo.
http://www.btmagazine.nl/wp-content/...ess-Class1.jpg
http://www.btmagazine.nl/wp-content/...ess-Class1.jpg
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...ess-class.html