Nov 23, 2013, 2:43 pm
Last edit by: boxo
As indicated in the thread title, this deal is now dead.
How do I manage my itinerary/check my booking/select seats?
Note that the displayed receipt will be incorrect ($5 higher than actual) owing to a programming error. The taxes/fees shown includes the original $5 WF booking fee. Do not worry about this; it does not change the amount you are actually billed.How many miles will I earn on United from my flight?
How do I manage my itinerary/check my booking/select seats?
- Go to http://www.wideroe.no/en/my-trips or https://wftc2-wideroe.e-travel.com/p...E_REQUEST=true
- Enter PNR/email address/last name
Note that the displayed receipt will be incorrect ($5 higher than actual) owing to a programming error. The taxes/fees shown includes the original $5 WF booking fee. Do not worry about this; it does not change the amount you are actually billed.
Here's the UA master page listing airline partners. If you click on a partner logo, you'll see a page containing a chart showing the yield for flights taken on partner metal. (It even says explicitly that it's the metal that counts: "The award miles accrued on codeshare flights are based on the operating carrier and their equivalent fare class.")
MileagePlus (UA) earning charts for
Will I do better if I credit to another *A carrier instead?MileagePlus (UA) earning charts for
- Lufthansa (LH) (K fares earn 0%!)
- SWISS (LX) (K fares earn 0%!)
- Air Canada (AC)
Maybe.
Miles&More (LH, LX,...) earning charts for
Here's the master list of partner earning charts for Aegean (A3) and here's the list for Turkish Airlines (TK).
Are there other FlyerTalk members flying when I am?Miles&More (LH, LX,...) earning charts for
- United Airlines (UA) (K, L, T fares earn 50%, 25% for flights in 2014)
- Lufthansa (LH) (K, L, T fares earn 50% for TATL flights in 2013, 25% for TATL flights in 2014)
- Swiss (LX) (K, L, T fares earn 50% for TATL flights in 2013, 25% for TATL flights in 2014)
- Air Canada (AC) (K, L, T fares earn 50% for TATL flights in 2013, 25% for TATL flights in 2014)
Here's the master list of partner earning charts for Aegean (A3) and here's the list for Turkish Airlines (TK).
Quite possibly! There is a meetup thread on the CommunityBuzz forum. Post if you would like to participate.
Travel reportsBooking/ticketing reports, now largely academic, may be viewed in the wiki history.
Please report below any completed flights and/or difficulties encountered (checking in, boarding, etc.) that appear related to the booking circumstances.
Please report below any completed flights and/or difficulties encountered (checking in, boarding, etc.) that appear related to the booking circumstances.
- Post #2428 reported arriving in STR on 11/28/13 with no problems.
- Post #2670 reported arriving in MXP on 12/1/13 with no problems.
- Post #2680 reported traveling EWR-MXP on 12/1/13 with no problems.
[FARE GONE] UA: EWR-Europe from $370 return
Nov 26, 2013, 12:50 pm
#2476
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/bu...lays.html?_r=0
Nov 26, 2013, 12:52 pm
#2477
Join Date: Jan 2005
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4. The PR exposure would be a nightmare, especially for an airline that doesn't need any more bad PR after just substantially devaluing their FF program. If you notice, while the issue was reported in the Norwegian press, it was not reported by any major media outlets here in the U.S. While it's the hot topic here on FT, 99.9% of Americans think Wideroe is what happens when someone's husband passes away. Why on early would UA want to call attention to this? It's far cheaper to let me and everyone else here winter in DXB, BOM and MXP.
Nov 26, 2013, 12:57 pm
#2478
Join Date: Nov 2009
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The first on on AE was a little under $1,500 per passenger. For all we know a penalty for cancelling these itins could be even smaller.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/bu...lays.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/bu...lays.html?_r=0
Yeah, United got hit last month for $1,200 per passenger. It'd be interesting to see UA roll the dice with DOT on this one.
Nov 26, 2013, 1:00 pm
#2479
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 449
The first on on AE was a little under $1,500 per passenger. For all we know a penalty for cancelling these itins could be even smaller.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/bu...lays.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/bu...lays.html?_r=0
Originally Posted by NYTIMES
One executive, Jeffrey A. Smisek, then the head of Continental Airlines, said the rule was “stupid” and would make things worse for passengers.
Nov 26, 2013, 1:40 pm
#2481
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 86
So this is really weird, when I enter my United FF number, let's say it's ZZ123456, into the my trip page FF entry boxes using the format UA ZZ123456, it would save and then send me an email, but when I refresh and click modify again, the FF boxes became blank.
Then I entered UA ZZ123456 and AC ZZ123456 just to see what happens. After saving and refreshing, I went to the modify page and lo and behold, AC ZZ123456 is the only thing that remains.
In conclusion, Wideroe will not record your United FF number, but will gladly take your Air Canada FF number. That is messed up.
Then I entered UA ZZ123456 and AC ZZ123456 just to see what happens. After saving and refreshing, I went to the modify page and lo and behold, AC ZZ123456 is the only thing that remains.
In conclusion, Wideroe will not record your United FF number, but will gladly take your Air Canada FF number. That is messed up.
Nov 26, 2013, 1:41 pm
#2482
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: KWI
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So this is really weird, when I enter my United FF number, let's say it's ZZ123456, into the my trip page FF entry boxes using the format UA ZZ123456, it would save and then send me an email, but when I refresh and click modify again, the FF boxes became blank.
Then I entered UA ZZ123456 and AC ZZ123456 just to see what happens. After saving and refreshing, I went to the modify page and lo and behold, AC ZZ123456 is the only thing that remains.
In conclusion, Wideroe will not record your United FF number, but will gladly take your Air Canada FF number. That is messed up.
Then I entered UA ZZ123456 and AC ZZ123456 just to see what happens. After saving and refreshing, I went to the modify page and lo and behold, AC ZZ123456 is the only thing that remains.
In conclusion, Wideroe will not record your United FF number, but will gladly take your Air Canada FF number. That is messed up.
Nov 26, 2013, 1:52 pm
#2485
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Nov 26, 2013, 1:53 pm
#2486
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just to quote my favorite DOT regs...
in plain English, nope they can't force you to pay more. Since 90%+ of these flights originate in the US. I'm 99% sure DoT protection will be solid on these fares. If United cancels, in half a second I'm submitting my DoT complaint against them...
this is just like El Al last year, they forgot to charge YQ on some orbitz fares, all fares were honored...
in plain English, nope they can't force you to pay more. Since 90%+ of these flights originate in the US. I'm 99% sure DoT protection will be solid on these fares. If United cancels, in half a second I'm submitting my DoT complaint against them...
this is just like El Al last year, they forgot to charge YQ on some orbitz fares, all fares were honored...
Think about this logically folks:
1. The DOT rules are *VERY* clear on this. If you spend the time to read them you will see that United really has no choice. The are legally bound to honor any confirmed tickets or pay a penalty far, far higher than what they would have lost in YQ.
2. Whomever is ultimate exposed here (United, Wideroe, Amadeus) as the one at fault will have to just work it out with the other two. It will likely be handled behind the scenes, and everyone will fly on their tickets without impact.
3. The fact that UA allowed all those people to fly from the mainland to Hawaii and elsewhere back in September of this year on tickets costing less than $10 should be an indication that everyone is safe. In that instance, UA *might* have had a way to worm out of it since the tickets were basically given away as opposed to sold, but they chose to let it go. As reported on FT, some people bought upwards 15 RT tix, and still UA will honor every single one of them.
4. The PR exposure would be a nightmare, especially for an airline that doesn't need any more bad PR after just substantially devaluing their FF program. If you notice, while the issue was reported in the Norwegian press, it was not reported by any major media outlets here in the U.S. While it's the hot topic here on FT, 99.9% of Americans think Wideroe is what happens when someone's husband passes away. Why on early would UA want to call attention to this? It's far cheaper to let me and everyone else here winter in DXB, BOM and MXP.
1. The DOT rules are *VERY* clear on this. If you spend the time to read them you will see that United really has no choice. The are legally bound to honor any confirmed tickets or pay a penalty far, far higher than what they would have lost in YQ.
2. Whomever is ultimate exposed here (United, Wideroe, Amadeus) as the one at fault will have to just work it out with the other two. It will likely be handled behind the scenes, and everyone will fly on their tickets without impact.
3. The fact that UA allowed all those people to fly from the mainland to Hawaii and elsewhere back in September of this year on tickets costing less than $10 should be an indication that everyone is safe. In that instance, UA *might* have had a way to worm out of it since the tickets were basically given away as opposed to sold, but they chose to let it go. As reported on FT, some people bought upwards 15 RT tix, and still UA will honor every single one of them.
4. The PR exposure would be a nightmare, especially for an airline that doesn't need any more bad PR after just substantially devaluing their FF program. If you notice, while the issue was reported in the Norwegian press, it was not reported by any major media outlets here in the U.S. While it's the hot topic here on FT, 99.9% of Americans think Wideroe is what happens when someone's husband passes away. Why on early would UA want to call attention to this? It's far cheaper to let me and everyone else here winter in DXB, BOM and MXP.
However, as with any error ticket booked by another TA/airline, UA will work out anything due to them via agreement with Amaedus/WF whether it is a debit memo for the YQ or some other procedure.
Nov 26, 2013, 2:11 pm
#2489
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Nov 26, 2013, 2:28 pm
#2490
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Posts: 267
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodtimes321
Its been 72 hours and no official statement? Where is Aaron Goldberg on this one? Im afraid we may all be disappointed in the end. Although I hope and will be happy to be 100% wrong.
UA is not going to cancel anything, IMO. Tickets are fairly safe at this point. I'm not off booking a hotel yet, but my trip is also far enough ahead that notorious UA schedule changes are still potentially in play.
Originally Posted by Goodtimes321
Its been 72 hours and no official statement? Where is Aaron Goldberg on this one? Im afraid we may all be disappointed in the end. Although I hope and will be happy to be 100% wrong.
UA is not going to cancel anything, IMO. Tickets are fairly safe at this point. I'm not off booking a hotel yet, but my trip is also far enough ahead that notorious UA schedule changes are still potentially in play.