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Old Oct 24, 2015, 5:28 am
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Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?

Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.

How do I search for dates/prices?

One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
  • outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
  • inbound: dl+ nrt dtw

NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box

See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)

You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)

I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
  • you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
  • if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
  • for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
  • call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover

Do I need a visa?

No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.

What are the best seats?

Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread

Will there be wifi on the international legs?

DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.

777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked

Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.

FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)

Other related threads:

Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)

Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet

SIN airport facilities

If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)

Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels

Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.

FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges

Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.

There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.

NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.

Things to do in SIN

In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.

SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.

Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9

Things to do on a long connection through NRT:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html

Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread

There is free wifi in NRT.

Returning to the US

Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)

You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.

Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.

Relevant FT threads:
Returning via ATL:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread

CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.

For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.

(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)

Returning via DTW:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread

When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.

The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.

Duty Free Liquids

This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight

If you have any experience with this, please share!

IRROPS handling:

Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html

Trip Reports/Tips:

2016: Dec, Nov, Oct #1, Oct #2, Oct #3, Sep, Apr, Feb

2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep

2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2

2013: Oct
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[FARE GONE] DL: SFO-ATL/JFK-NRT-SIN $1,232.30 ai RT (25,318 mi; 4.9 cpm)

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Old Sep 12, 2016, 10:42 am
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Meeting with Zorak

Originally Posted by Zorak
Equipment change: the twice-weekly 332 in January has, at least for the moment, gone back to being a 744 daily from DTW-NRT/NRT-DTW. I'd already switched my outbound a day earlier just to hedge my bets, but this means my return flights now include a 744 also, yay unless they change it again between now and January, which who knows
It is always great to meet another FT member in person and exchange ideas on how to maximize our MQM on our MR. We're in SFO yesterday for some work and we were able to work out time to meet Zorak. Will post some fares later, have been concentrating on MQM for 2016 but John with Laptoptravel has mentioned there are some great prices JFK SIN in Dec and Zorak noted if you go thru DTW you have the opportunity to be in a 744 DTW NRT one of the last ones DL is flying so pick your flights carefully and if you have GUC and are blessed you might get the UD. We are scheduled DTW NRT on Sep 20 but UG not confirmed at this writing, there are 14 on LD and 2 on UD so expect we will get UG at gate and still waiting LAX ATL UG but those should come thru as there are 22 spaces left, all TP segs are UG and waiting for JFK LAX on Sep 28 and there are 10 spaces left on that. Have to play the waiting game but looks good at present!
Happy Travels and may all your UG work out, come join us Sep 19 LAX ATL DTW NRT SIN out Sep 28 SIN NRT JFK LAX back. Blessings. The Zika virus is present in SIN, in airport no problem and seldom a problem outside but would use OFF if outside at dusk to be safe. Good mosquito control in SIN!
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Old Sep 12, 2016, 2:41 pm
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Great update. I saw & agree with John (John LaptopTravel) there was some good prices out to SIN, if you were leaving out of JFK. I was able to see some trips leaving from the West Coast (and going thru JFK and DTW) in JAN 2017, already met MQM this year (and next) but gonna take a quick trip out of OAK to JFK then DTW out to SIN, because I have to use a GUC before it expires and may be unable to use it farther in the summer. So am hopeful to get "up front" (or better yet, Upper Deck) on both legs.

Csfing1, glad to hear the number of open seats on the 19th is a lot better than mine on the 18th. While I got cleared for the NRT-DTW leg (and SIN-NRT) I won't get it on the way "out". DTW departure on the 19th is indeed a 747, but alas they have sold out for the last week. Delta is not even trying to sell D1 on the DTW-NRT leg anymore. So it seems my GUC will not get used.
Guess its sitting in C+ for those legs into SIN this time.
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Old Sep 13, 2016, 3:13 am
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Smile Fares on Sep 12 LAX Dep

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL LAX 24,248 MQM
Prices from Kayak.com
$679 ai 2.80 cpm Nov 14-17 BEST FARE
$684 ai 2.82 cpm Nov 7-10, 21-24 (Thanksgiving week)
$718 ai 2.96 cpm Sep 19-26, 19-27, 19-28, Oct 10-13
$758 ai 3.13 cpm Sep 26-29
$763 ai 3.15 cpm Sep 19-22, 19-29, Oct 24-27
$780 ai 3.22 cpm Jan 23-26, Feb 13-16, 20-23, 27- Mar 2
$895 ai 3.69 cpm Oct 17-20
$900 ai 3.71 cpm Dec 5-8
$967 ai 3.99 cpm Jan 9-12, Feb 6-9
$981 ai 4.05 cpm Nov 28-Dec 1
$1068 ai 4.40 Oct 3-6

LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT JFK LAX 24, 634 MQM
$763 ai 3.10 cpm Jan 9-12, Feb 6-9
$985 ai 4.00 cpm Sep 26-29
$1087 ai 4.41 cpm Sep 19-22

Happy Travels! Comments welcome, please post lower prices! Blessings!

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Old Sep 13, 2016, 8:46 pm
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Successful GUC use once the JFK-SIN flights end

Wondering what the folks that have been reading this thread feel are the chances of scoring Upgrades on the US>NRT and NRT>US runs once JFK stops in Oct?
I believe that will leave ATL (77), DTW (74 for a bit longer into 2017) and SEA (76)

Any thoughts on days of the week that seems better? Was rather disappointed that my flight out and back into DTW (to get the 747) ended up that the D1 cabin is sold out on the date am leaving. Wondering if we are gonna see less over all ability to use GUC's out to NRT. Had done it 2 other times and both time cleared the US legs both ways before even departing.

Just wondering if there was a consensus or gut feeling folks had for this run after the Oct ending of JFK/NRT flights, guess those folks will be directed to DTW (with more seats on the 74) or ATL.
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Old Sep 13, 2016, 9:48 pm
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DL JFK MSP NRT SIN NRT LAX JFK 21,338 MQM
$940.26 10/7/16 - 10/9/16 4.4 cpm

First time posting so please forgive any errors. Booked a weekend mileage run from JFK-SIN on DL. I'm hoping someone on FT can give me some insight into booking a room at the transit hotel in the SIN airport.
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Old Sep 13, 2016, 9:53 pm
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DL JFK MSP NRT SIN NRT LAX JFK 21,338 MQM
$940.26 10/7 - 10/9 4.4 cpm

I booked this a couple of hours ago on delta.com
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Old Sep 13, 2016, 11:51 pm
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Originally Posted by McMichaelNY
DL JFK MSP NRT SIN NRT LAX JFK 21,338 MQM
$940.26 10/7/16 - 10/9/16 4.4 cpm

First time posting so please forgive any errors. Booked a weekend mileage run from JFK-SIN on DL. I'm hoping someone on FT can give me some insight into booking a room at the transit hotel in the SIN airport.
Read the wiki for this thread things to do at SIN airport, there is a link for you to book a room at Ambassador transit hotel. If you still have a problem or don't understand, send me a PM with your phone number and I can call you and help you out. In US till Mon Sep 19
Happy Travels! Enjoy your trip. Blessings!
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Old Sep 14, 2016, 2:16 am
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Originally Posted by Csfing1
Read the wiki for this thread things to do at SIN airport, there is a link for you to book a room at Ambassador transit hotel. If you still have a problem or don't understand, send me a PM with your phone number and I can call you and help you out. In US till Mon Sep 19
Happy Travels! Enjoy your trip. Blessings!
I will read and thank you!
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Old Sep 14, 2016, 1:23 pm
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Please help with this JFK SIN 03/08 SIN LGA 04/12 price is 601 USD all flights V class
It seem imposible to take advantaje and get a stopover in NRT for only 100 USD.
I called Delta and the price goes up to 1126 USD adding only one stopover.

Can anyone give me a hand? Has anyone been able to make a stopover for only 100? Any clues on How/where to search this as a multi-city flight?


Thanks.

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Old Sep 14, 2016, 1:27 pm
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DTW NRT Sep 20

12 spaces left in J none on UD six days to go, already in J ATL DTW and NRT SIN. Still have decent prices for MR if you need one, don't wait too long, prices will usually go up. Thanksgiving week MR LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL LAX available for $684 for 24,248 MQM, an excellent price if still available as it was 2 days ago. Happy Travels! Please post comments and lower prices. Blessings!

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Old Sep 14, 2016, 6:05 pm
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Friend who is running this from Nov 7-10 LAX-ATL-DTW-NRT-SIN was re-booked LAX-ATL-NRT and skipped the detroit segment. We were not he same flights and that flight is still active...

Odd occurrence and she will call the Diamond line. If the flight was canceled wouldn't it show up in my info(GM) as well? I'm still confirmed.
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Old Sep 14, 2016, 10:53 pm
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Originally Posted by dinanm3atl
Friend who is running this from Nov 7-10 LAX-ATL-DTW-NRT-SIN was re-booked LAX-ATL-NRT and skipped the detroit segment. We were not he same flights and that flight is still active...

Odd occurrence and she will call the Diamond line. If the flight was canceled wouldn't it show up in my info(GM) as well? I'm still confirmed.
I had this happen one time, was originally scheduled to fly out of JFK (LAX-MSP-JFK) and then to SIN, I was rerouted from the MSP leg about 30 or so days before to SEA. I had already scored a GUC upgrade so it was a flight to SEA vs JFK up front and then to SIN (thru SEA) to NRT. I think it was due to seat availability was better in SEA that day so they got me there about the same time of course. Maybe thats what happened here?
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Old Sep 14, 2016, 11:11 pm
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Check Your Trips periodically

Important to check your trips periodically to see if there have been changes in aircraft and itinerary and flights and your seats especially if they change the aircraft. Check at least every 2 weeks. Be proactive rather than reactive.
Happy Travels! Blessings!

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Old Sep 15, 2016, 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by Csfing1
12 spaces left in J none on UD six days to go, already in J ATL DTW and NRT SIN. Still have decent prices for MR if you need one, don't wait too long, prices will usually go up. Thanksgiving week MR LAX ATL NRT SIN NRT ATL LAX available for $684 for 24,248 MQM, an excellent price if still available as it was 2 days ago. Happy Travels! Please post comments and lower prices. Blessings!
can you post the exact itin for this one? Im trying to repro it in ITA and its not coming up
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Old Sep 15, 2016, 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by Csfing1
Important to check your trips periodically to see if there have been changes in aircraft and itinerary and flights and your seats especially if they change the aircraft. Check at least every 2 weeks. Be proactive rather than reactive.
Happy Travels! Blessings!
I'm aware. Thought it was odd a forced change to maybe get upgrades?

Sure she can switch back of the flight is still active. Which it is.
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