(Gone) HA: ICN-HNL-LAS/PHX/PDX/etc C class 699 USD RT
Jul 26, 2010, 1:40 pm
#229
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Jul 26, 2010, 3:38 pm
#232
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I booked ICN-HNL. Booked in business, but as others posters have indicated the ticket receipt comes back as "First" on Korean Air. I would love to think that "first is first", but who knows. I was going to wait until the deal is dead and then begin inquiring with 1) HA to get the KE booking reference number; and then 2) deal with KE on seat assignments and ask them the question we've all been wondering. I researched the aircraft quite heavily and it is an older First Class called "sleeper seats", but not the really old first class. To be honest, the business seat set up on the same plane look nicer, so I won't be too disappointed if the ticket turns out to be business. I just can't believe this deal is active this long.
Jul 26, 2010, 3:53 pm
#233
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Jul 26, 2010, 4:10 pm
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Same here. I booked at the end of schedule and had I known it would have lasted this long, I might have waited a day to book. Ah, the games we play.
I need to book a couple of award flights to make this trip work so I'd like them to confirm they're going to honor it sooner than later. Ah, the games we play.
I need to book a couple of award flights to make this trip work so I'd like them to confirm they're going to honor it sooner than later. Ah, the games we play.
Jul 26, 2010, 4:23 pm
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Jul 26, 2010, 5:06 pm
#236
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The HNL to LAS flight I purchased has two classes, first and coach. The first appears to be your everyday US continental F, with normal recliner seats. KE C has the 170-degree lie-flat seats and seems to have the normal TPAC C service.
I tried to test-book the same KE flight in F on Expedia to see which of two 747s it was but no n-s ICN-HNL flights were offered. If I tried in C class, n-s flights appeared. This I don't understand.
I tried to test-book the same KE flight in F on Expedia to see which of two 747s it was but no n-s ICN-HNL flights were offered. If I tried in C class, n-s flights appeared. This I don't understand.
Jul 26, 2010, 5:13 pm
#237
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I didn't go through the purchase process, so I'm not sure if we can do all the way through. Hawaiian homepage gives weird business (also economy) prices even on very hot season. Sample date: 8/25-9/8, business class roundtrip is 699 USD (319+319+tax). Takes KE on ICN-HNL sector.
Jul 26, 2010, 5:25 pm
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The HNL to LAS flight I purchased has two classes, first and coach. The first appears to be your everyday US continental F, with normal recliner seats. KE C has the 170-degree lie-flat seats and seems to have the normal TPAC C service.
I tried to test-book the same KE flight in F on Expedia to see which of two 747s it was but no n-s ICN-HNL flights were offered. If I tried in C class, n-s flights appeared. This I don't understand.
I tried to test-book the same KE flight in F on Expedia to see which of two 747s it was but no n-s ICN-HNL flights were offered. If I tried in C class, n-s flights appeared. This I don't understand.
Jul 26, 2010, 5:31 pm
#239
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It is truly amazing that this is still available! Thank you thank you thank you to OP!
I have booked several flights already.
To clarify couple of things related to previousaly asked questions:
Viewing completed KE-codeshare business reservation on HA website shows class of service as FIRST - this is just bad HA website. If you access the same reservation from www.virtuallythere.com (which you can do using the confirmation number and last name), it will show as business class.
Further, really think a complaint to USDOT regarding HA lack of display of the real fare rules is in order. Maybe I will do it - many of us should. It's just another example of lazy, poor HA practice. I do believe it is not lawful to sell air travel without disclosing the terms - and the HA website link to the terms does not cover International codeshare flights.
Office of Aviation Enforcement and Proceedings
US Department of Transportation
1200 New Jersey Ave, SE
Washington, DC 20590
Finally, as to whether those who have tickets will get ticket honored. HA Contract of Carriage says:
So me think everyone is OK because (a) $650+ is definitely not zero or near zero, and (b) this fare is NOT available on agency and 3rd-party websites, it is only available on the HA website and it would be hard to imagine arguing that the HA website is a computer reservation system not controlled by HA!
I have booked several flights already.
To clarify couple of things related to previousaly asked questions:
Viewing completed KE-codeshare business reservation on HA website shows class of service as FIRST - this is just bad HA website. If you access the same reservation from www.virtuallythere.com (which you can do using the confirmation number and last name), it will show as business class.
Further, really think a complaint to USDOT regarding HA lack of display of the real fare rules is in order. Maybe I will do it - many of us should. It's just another example of lazy, poor HA practice. I do believe it is not lawful to sell air travel without disclosing the terms - and the HA website link to the terms does not cover International codeshare flights.
Office of Aviation Enforcement and Proceedings
US Department of Transportation
1200 New Jersey Ave, SE
Washington, DC 20590
Finally, as to whether those who have tickets will get ticket honored. HA Contract of Carriage says:
L. Misfiled Fares
HA, as a policy, does not file nor intend to offer/file tickets priced at zero or near zero. Essentially, such fares do not make any economic sense. We have introduced warning mechanisms to try to prevent such occurrences; however, occasionally fares such as these mistakenly get loaded into computer reservation systems that are not controlled by HA. Agents/customers should be aware that in these circumstances they are not allowed to ticket at these fares and HA will not honor fares of zero or near zero value. In the event a zero or near zero fare is ticketed inadvertently, HA will void such ticket and may choose to waive, in its sole discretion, certain rules or restrictions of existing published fares as a gesture of good will.
HA, as a policy, does not file nor intend to offer/file tickets priced at zero or near zero. Essentially, such fares do not make any economic sense. We have introduced warning mechanisms to try to prevent such occurrences; however, occasionally fares such as these mistakenly get loaded into computer reservation systems that are not controlled by HA. Agents/customers should be aware that in these circumstances they are not allowed to ticket at these fares and HA will not honor fares of zero or near zero value. In the event a zero or near zero fare is ticketed inadvertently, HA will void such ticket and may choose to waive, in its sole discretion, certain rules or restrictions of existing published fares as a gesture of good will.
Jul 26, 2010, 5:51 pm
#240
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Just FYI, here is what the ETKT looks like, booked in J and all 
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:Code:
TKT-173213XXXXXX RCI- HA LOC-
OD- SI- FCMI-7 POI-WWW DOI-26JUL10 IOI-10671043
1.PXXXXXX/XXXXX ADT S I
1 ICN HA 6001 J 21JAN 2010 OK JOTST/WEB A
2 XHNL HA 126 J 21JAN 1110 OK JOTST/WEB O
OGG
FARE F USD 356.00
TAX USD 16.10US
TAX USD 23.10BP
TAX USD 20.00XT
TOTAL USD 415.20
/FC SEL HA X/HNL HA OGG356.00JOTST/WEB NUC356.00END ROE1.00 XT5.
50YC7.00X Y5.00XA2.50AY
FE VALID HA ONLY/NONREF/FEE FOR CHG
FP CCHAXXXXXXXXXXXX5017/1219/N959543