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Keter Apr 5, 2010 10:12 am

Premium fare definition. Idea?
 
We have all seen fares that say "business unrestricted" or something like that in industry fare type (eg as shown on routing screen in KVS) part of the fare rules for fares which are in fact economy class fares and book into economy class basket.

The question now is about situations where such fares are bookable and are interlineable.

The point I am trying to check is that the booking codes for secondary airlines (validated for autopricing rather that what you can see in readable fare rules) are contained in so-called RBD chart 2 [accessible by agents only, EF can grant access but need demand for that] which defines for every airline which may be involved the applicable booking codes which should/ may be used. This is often done on a fare type basis as far as I can understand it.

Example is:

IF VIA YY EU-ECONOMY UNRESTRICTED
VIA BA Y REQUIRED


Means that for YY (IATA) fares segments on BA must be booked in Y in case of EU-type fares, that is full/ normal YY fares.

The question is how the autopricing links the fare type and applicable booking codes. If it refers to the rules we can see, then it is possible that we can get segments in business for economy fares.

To test this we need any -interlineable- fare which has the attribute of "business" being in fact economy. Many such fares I have seen are either not bookable or exist only in one GDS, or both

So, if one can give some recent examples here we may try to experiment with ITA. Come with totally useless fares first, just to test it.

Of course, the result will depend on the fare, the carrier, the interline agreement applicable for the fare etc etc, but I think this may work.

If anyone knows it will not work, you are welcome to share your knowledge.

whlinder Apr 6, 2010 6:32 pm


Originally Posted by Keter (Post 13712465)
We have all seen fares that say "business unrestricted" or something like that in industry fare type (eg as shown on routing screen in KVS) part of the fare rules for fares which are in fact economy class fares and book into economy class basket.

The question now is about situations where such fares are bookable and are interlineable.

The point I am trying to check is that the booking codes for secondary airlines (validated for autopricing rather that what you can see in readable fare rules) are contained in so-called RBD chart 2 [accessible by agents only, EF can grant access but need demand for that] which defines for every airline which may be involved the applicable booking codes which should/ may be used. This is often done on a fare type basis as far as I can understand it.

Example is:

IF VIA YY EU-ECONOMY UNRESTRICTED
VIA BA Y REQUIRED


Means that for YY (IATA) fares segments on BA must be booked in Y in case of EU-type fares, that is full/ normal YY fares.

The question is how the autopricing links the fare type and applicable booking codes. If it refers to the rules we can see, then it is possible that we can get segments in business for economy fares.

To test this we need any -interlineable- fare which has the attribute of "business" being in fact economy. Many such fares I have seen are either not bookable or exist only in one GDS, or both

So, if one can give some recent examples here we may try to experiment with ITA. Come with totally useless fares first, just to test it.

Of course, the result will depend on the fare, the carrier, the interline agreement applicable for the fare etc etc, but I think this may work.

If anyone knows it will not work, you are welcome to share your knowledge.

I'm confused at what you are trying to do... find BU type fares that are Y- fare basis codes?

Keter Apr 7, 2010 12:07 am

What I need to test this idea is ANY fare which has the following characteristics:

1) interlineable (allows other carriers' segments on the fare)
2) books into economy on primary carrier
3) has any "business" industry fare type by some reason

The question is whether or not it will be possible to have J segments on a secondary carrier in this case.

heramato Apr 7, 2010 9:31 pm

Liked this one. It has happened to me sometimes. My examples are dead now but letś try some new ones


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